Fire Resistance makes you immune to magma?


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I just read about Environment dangers and it lists lava as dealing 2d6 per round on contact and 20d6 if you are immersed but if you have fire immunity or resistance you are immune to that damage. Is this a typo meaning fire resistance applies or are you actually immune to magma damage?


Until errata states otherwise it is full immunity

So tieflings can play in wading pools of lava all day to no ill effect.


I'd have to say that's clearly a typo and would use the resistance to fire value as resistance to the magma damage.

Grand Lodge

Same wording as in 3.5, if I recall right.


Abraham spalding wrote:

Until errata states otherwise it is full immunity

So tieflings can play in wading pools of lava all day to no ill effect.

Well if they don't know how to swim, they might still drown tho lol.


Nemitri wrote:
Abraham spalding wrote:

Until errata states otherwise it is full immunity

So tieflings can play in wading pools of lava all day to no ill effect.

Well if they don't know how to swim, they might still drown tho lol.

That's why it's a wading pool (only about 6 to 12 inches deep) -- if they drown in that they deserve it.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

6 people marked this as FAQ candidate. Answered in the errata. 1 person marked this as a favorite.

Damage inflicted by lava and magma is fire damage. If you're immune to fire, you're thus immune to that damage. If you have fire resistance, then that resistance applies to the damage normally.


Needs to hit the errata then -- cause as the book reads, it's resistance is good for lava immunity.

Silver Crusade

It's not really a typo, though. You just need to have enough resistance to not take any damage (i.e. Fire Resistance 12 for contact, and 120(!) for immersion).


Thanks guys, I imagined it was like James said but text said differently.

Thaks for the fast responses.

Seems my tiefling barbarian can't swim in the magma river


Yescas wrote:

Thanks guys, I imagined it was like James said but text said differently.

Thaks for the fast responses.

Seems my tiefling barbarian can't swim in the magma river

Oh I imagine he can for the short term -- it's pass getting to/beyond round 2 that's the problem!


Abraham spalding wrote:


Oh I imagine he can for the short term -- it's pass getting to/beyond round 2 that's the problem!

Specially with the low HP I've rolled

Silver Crusade

You do also realize you can't actually swim in magma, right? While molten, it still is rock, and thus its density is much higher (presumably), than a tiefling's. You'd just sit on top, barely able to move. Drop a balloon filled with air into a bathtub to get an idea of what it'd look like.


Could you run across it?

And does fire resistance/immunity apply to your clothes?

(she runs across the magma river only to wind up fighting the evil wizard butt-nekid on the other side, suffering his imp familiar making puns of how "hot" she looks)


uriel222 wrote:
You do also realize you can't actually swim in magma, right? While molten, it still is rock, and thus its density is much higher (presumably), than a tiefling's. You'd just sit on top, barely able to move. Drop a balloon filled with air into a bathtub to get an idea of what it'd look like.

I regret to inform you that reality has no place in the rules as written. As such the rules state I can swim throw lava, and therefore I can.

You can take your silly "laws of physics" and go sit in the corner now. Feel free to weep softly.

(I'm messing with you of course, but only to the point that I'm still right! ;D)

Shadow Lodge

I recommend referring to the definitive source on the subject: Fire and Brimstone: A Comprehensive Guide to Lava, Magma, and Superheated Rock. What I can only assume is decades worth of painstaking, dangerous, and occasionally lethal research obviously went into the crafting of this invaluable resource. I fully recommend that it take precedence over all other gaming materials when you will be dealing with large quantities of lava, magma, or superheated rock.


But those rules dont apply if your immune.
Which leads to my question, does your immunity protect your clothes?
Or is the tiefling facing sexual harassment as well as evil assault?


Yes, resistance applies to all items worn or used by a character. If it didn't, everyone would be naked from the first fireball cast on the party. Unattended items are treated as separate, but anything on a creature is considered part of the creature. So, no sexual harassment, unless your imp wants to anyway. I mean, I've seen how little clothes fantasy heroines wear...


Mauril wrote:
Yes, resistance applies to all items worn or used by a character. If it didn't, everyone would be naked from the first fireball cast on the party. Unattended items are treated as separate, but anything on a creature is considered part of the creature. So, no sexual harassment, unless your imp wants to anyway. I mean, I've seen how little clothes fantasy heroines wear...

Never underestimate the power of a brass bikini


uriel222 wrote:
You do also realize you can't actually swim in magma, right? While molten, it still is rock, and thus its density is much higher (presumably), than a tiefling's. You'd just sit on top, barely able to move. Drop a balloon filled with air into a bathtub to get an idea of what it'd look like.

Wait. What? When rock melts, it expands, losing its density. It becomes a liquid. It has the same mass (if you can keep it all together) but not its density. Otherwise, gas bubbles wouldn't be able to make it up out of it. But even small ones do. And different types of magma have different densities, which is what can drive lava to the surface.

If you mean that magma has a higher viscosity than water, it does. But at extremely high temperatures is loses more and more of it. I don't think it would have a higher viscosity than a Tiefling has mass and density.

It would be closer to the experience of the time the Mythbusters swam in syrup. Only, it would be really hot syrup. That could kill you.

Shadow Lodge

Thanks for this information guys, since I am running the entire emerald spire, and in a few weeks will be hitting level 10 (magma level. So my question is doe fire resistance that tieflings have also stop heat damage. Ran into this question in tyranny of the winds part 1 last month, does anybody know?

Verdant Wheel

Bruunwald wrote:
uriel222 wrote:
You do also realize you can't actually swim in magma, right? While molten, it still is rock, and thus its density is much higher (presumably), than a tiefling's. You'd just sit on top, barely able to move. Drop a balloon filled with air into a bathtub to get an idea of what it'd look like.

Wait. What? When rock melts, it expands, losing its density. It becomes a liquid. It has the same mass (if you can keep it all together) but not its density. Otherwise, gas bubbles wouldn't be able to make it up out of it. But even small ones do. And different types of magma have different densities, which is what can drive lava to the surface.

If you mean that magma has a higher viscosity than water, it does. But at extremely high temperatures is loses more and more of it. I don't think it would have a higher viscosity than a Tiefling has mass and density.

It would be closer to the experience of the time the Mythbusters swam in syrup. Only, it would be really hot syrup. That could kill you.

The answer is much cooler than any of this swimming or running nonsense. When you hit a pool of proper lava, you rocket off into the air. And then bounce repeatedly on the lava until your body is turned to ash by the very air because the air near lava can burn you to death all on its own.

Don't mess around with Mother Earth's lifeblood, guys.

It hurts.

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