I am happy Paizo chose well. If they had Kyra & Ezren both it would be a nice balance.
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What is a PoC lesbian?Person of Color.
Ah,
WATAGAIDKWIM*
Aside, anyone getting Xtreme X-men? You have a gay James Howlett (called Gaverine on some forums) and Hercules. It's been pretty funny.
Oh, and there might be romance between 616-Allison Blair and a black civil war Scott Summers (Blaclops?)
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Hey Gang,
Thanks for the enthusiastic response to Pathfinder #5!
I've just put up a blog post with some more of my thoughts on the issue and the inclusive Pathfinder game setting.
Please give it a read and share:
The Inclusive Fantasy World of Pathfinder
Strangely, If there is a Transgendered Iconic I am leaning towards one of the Following:
-Seoni
-Damiel
-Lini
-Merisiel
-Lem
Though who knows one of them could have had something like the Girdle of Gender Changing's effect made permanent.
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Just read issue 5 last night, great stuff! I really liked the background highlights for the iconics and the subtle suprise in Kyra's flashback (She's still my 2nd favorite iconic!). Between that and the other story bits about the party I had a better idea of the characters "whole person concept". Hoping this series has a long run.
Feiya could be...
So... Why don't we have any left handed iconics?
I think Kyra & Seltyiel are Left-Handed.
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I know Kyra is right handed by the art. Selyiel is hard to tell. Both as the iconic magus and the iconic EK he's holding his sword in his left hand, but he's casting with his right. So it's unclear. I know when I picture a caster casting, he casts with his dominant hand
(Aside, apparently they flipped the art with Valeros, he holds his long sword in his right hand in the art, but left in the mini.)
Seltyiel I think he is using Spell Combat... Wait is that a spell or some type of Familiar?
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I think I missed the announcement of the trans* iconic? When/where was it revealed that one was trans*? Because it would make my millennium if I could truly identify with one of the iconics...
We've said for some time that there's at least two gay iconics (one male, one female), one bisexual iconic, and one trans iconic. There could well be more. But until the time is right and appropriate we had no plans to reveal that.
The comic is the right place to reveal those things; we've now revealed Kyra is gay and heavily implied that Merisiel is bisexual. More revelations about the iconics will come along in the years to come, maybe or maybe not in this or another comic, maybe or maybe not in an entirely different medium. The time has to be right is all.
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I know Kyra is right handed by the art. Selyiel is hard to tell. Both as the iconic magus and the iconic EK he's holding his sword in his left hand, but he's casting with his right. So it's unclear. I know when I picture a caster casting, he casts with his dominant hand
(Aside, apparently they flipped the art with Valeros, he holds his long sword in his right hand in the art, but left in the mini.)
Part of the reason Pathfinder doesn't bother with handedness is because we often end up having to mirror art in order to make it look good on a page, which changes what hand a character favors in many cases, of course... ;-)
Why is sexuality important in a fantasy roleplaying game? It seems this thread was made to push people's buttons, and if you need to have homosexuals in your d&d game you can do so without making a big pointless thread about it.
I know Kyra is right handed by the art. Selyiel is hard to tell. Both as the iconic magus and the iconic EK he's holding his sword in his left hand, but he's casting with his right. So it's unclear. I know when I picture a caster casting, he casts with his dominant hand
(Aside, apparently they flipped the art with Valeros, he holds his long sword in his right hand in the art, but left in the mini.)
Believe it or not, handedness is actually a much trickier issue for us than sexuality, because art often gets flipped in order to fit better on a page, which changes which hand holds the weapon. So we'll all just have to assume there are some lefties in there, then turn a blind eye to the matter...
In case any one cares, I'm still offended about the depiction of goblins as smelly, unpleasant and militantly illiterate.
Why is sexuality important in a fantasy roleplaying game? It seems this thread was made to push people's buttons, and if you need to have homosexuals in your d&d game you can do so without making a big pointless thread about it.Because love and romance tend a play a big part in fantasy. They're often involved in motivations for heroes and villains.
I suppose you could have a game and a setting without any mention of sexuality, but that would involve never mentioning couples or parents or pretty much anything besides monsters and loot. Sounds boring to me.
This.
Ninja'd by Jacobs.
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In case any one cares, I'm still offended about the depiction of goblins as smelly, unpleasant and militantly illiterate.
I promise no one thinks that you, personally, are illiterate. :)
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Believe it or not, handedness is actually a much trickier issue for us than sexuality, because art often gets flipped in order to fit better on a page, which changes which hand holds the weapon. So we'll all just have to assume there are some lefties in there, then turn a blind eye to the matter...I know Kyra is right handed by the art. Selyiel is hard to tell. Both as the iconic magus and the iconic EK he's holding his sword in his left hand, but he's casting with his right. So it's unclear. I know when I picture a caster casting, he casts with his dominant hand
(Aside, apparently they flipped the art with Valeros, he holds his long sword in his right hand in the art, but left in the mini.)
Oh, I understand. It does strike me as strange the entire "I can't identify with X because it doesn't have me in it." I can identify with Kyra just fine (even before I found out we both like girls), or Ezren or PAthfinder w/o needing a leftie iconic. But we *are* 10% of the population, roughly.
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Kind of off topic.
While I don't agree with the need to have someone you relate to to enjoy a story, I *do* like having them as a way of crossing the media. I've been trying to get the girls into reading comics, and suggested Secret Six. Both because I have 'em all, and because Amber's a bit 'butch' and I think she'd enjoy reading Scandal and Liana.
Edit: Fixed! Thanks Cori
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Kind of off topic.
While I don't agree with the need to have someone you relate to to enjoy a story, I *do* like having them as a way of crossing the media. I've been trying to get the girls into reading comics, and suggested Sinister Six. Both because I have 'em all, and because Amber's a bit 'butch' and I think she'd enjoy reading Scandal and Liana.
You mean Secret Six? Sinister Six is another company entirely
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Ninja'd by Jacobs.
Oh man. Now I have this image of him dressed up in ninja jammies and stealthily slipping into houses at night to leave pamphlets on diversity and inclusion behind.
I think it's the most surreal thing I've thought of since Eat Your Own Clone Day.
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...and suddenly things just got impolite again.
Everybody play nice in this thread so we don't have to start removing post, a'ight?
So, now we get to speculate about the trans iconic instead.
I'd lend towards Damiel or Freyja (I think that's the witch iconic's name).
*ahem* Close, but no cigar.
Also, its F-E-I-Y-A ;)
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Why is sexuality important in a fantasy roleplaying game? It seems this thread was made to push people's buttons, and if you need to have homosexuals in your d&d game you can do so without making a big pointless thread about it.
Because sexuality is a part of humanity, and roleplaying games are about playing different characters—aka exploring humanity.
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So, now we get to speculate about the trans iconic instead.
*ahem* Close, but no cigar.I'd lend towards Damiel or Freyja (I think that's the witch iconic's name).
Are you SURE there's no cigar?
In case any one cares, I'm still offended about the depiction of goblins as smelly, unpleasant and militantly illiterate.I promise no one thinks that you, personally, are illiterate. :)
As a side note, all these posts are displaying nicely in holographic Dabus now that I've upgraded the SubEtha box to the latest service pack.
Well, everyones' posts but Matt's, whose posts still oddly display from right to left.
Ninja'd by Jacobs.Oh man. Now I have this image of him dressed up in ninja jammies and stealthily slipping into houses at night to leave pamphlets on diversity and inclusion behind.
I think it's the most surreal thing I've thought of since Eat Your Own Clone Day.
I've seen him ninja'ing about, but he seems to spend most of his time sneaking into bioengineers' houses with his stuffed tiger and planting subliminal recordings encouraging research into cloning dinosaurs.
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*ahem* Close, but no cigar.Are you SURE there's no cigar?
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
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Ninja'd by Jacobs.Oh man. Now I have this image of him dressed up in ninja jammies and stealthily slipping into houses at night to leave pamphlets on diversity and inclusion behind.
I think it's the most surreal thing I've thought of since Eat Your Own Clone Day.
Did he steal my ninja jammies AGAIN? -.-
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Why is gay and gender bending now the end all be all of "diversity" ? None are fat, none are dyslexic, none profess unusual religion, nothing ever seams to need or get attention except sexuality/gender. It honestly reminds me a little of the blaxploitation craze. Yet so much other diversity goes ignored. in all walks of life.