Are there plans to do compilations of the Pathfinder adventure paths?
On the one hand, I like having everything in one place. On the other, I think the serialized nature makes for much more anticipation in reading it, run it, and wanting to be a player in it.
The main reason I'm asking though is because I want to know whether to stick with subscribing, or wait for compilations. I don't want to be in a position of missing out on cool material, extra encounters, or whatever, in a hardcover, because it wasn't in the subscriber editions.
I figure you'll logically want to do some type of content enhancement to add value to a compilation, which means I'll want the material, and I don't want to buy each adventure path twice.
Just wondering what format I should plan for long term. For now, I've subscribed to the first Pathfinder.
Thanks.
I think that in another thread that James Jacobs said that they are hoping to not need a hardcover compilation because they'll get it right the first time.
But, if that's the case, and I realize this may be kinda early to request it, but what I think could be cool instead of a hardcover, but a slip cover to put the books in. something similiar to what National Geographic has. It could be set up such that every seperate AP would have a different case.
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We have no plans at this point to re-release Pathfinder Adventure Paths as compilations. The two big draws for doing Shackled City as a compilation hardcover aren't (hopefully) going to be issues with Pathfinder.
1: Shackled City had a fair amount of mis-steps by us; it was our first Adventure Path, and the hardcover gave us a chance to fix them. We're hoping that Rise of the Runelords and any Adventure Paths to come will stand on their own, more like how Age of Worms and Savage Tide do.
2: Magazines are flimsy and temporary. They fall apart fast, and the cover & paper is low quality. And once they're sold out, they're gone; magazines don't generally get reprinted. By republishing Shackled City in hardcover, we keep the adventure path in circulation and can reprint it and it's got higher quality physical features. Since Pathfinder is already a book, we don't need to worry about this.
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But, if that's the case, and I realize this may be kinda early to request it, but what I think could be cool instead of a hardcover, but a slip cover to put the books in. something similiar to what National Geographic has. It could be set up such that every seperate AP would have a different case.
Slipcases or something like that is a far more likely possibility. It wouldn't involve reprinting the books at all (which is costly), but would make a nice attractive way to bundle your adventure paths into one spot.
I think the slip cases would be cool. And if they were packages with some supplemental material, all the better, because I'm happy to buy that if it helps with the adventure path, or offers some sort of sequel quest...like a "return to" or epilogue chapter, or something that addresses any lingering questions like now that I'm the baron, or provides some needed mechanics that were left out, etc...
Slipcases would be cool (just make sure they're big enough for the books and the supplemental material you provide with the cases, if any :-)
Slipcases or something like that is a far more likely possibility. It wouldn't involve reprinting the books at all (which is costly), but would make a nice attractive way to bundle your adventure paths into one spot.
You can count on me for purchase of a slipcase (+ any bonuses). What a great idea for my bookcase!
Wishes he had sent in the coupon for the free Lord of the Rings DVD slipcase when he had a chance....
::Gazes longingly at his LotR DVD slipcaase ont he DVD bookshelf.:: Yes my preciousesesess, filthy nasty post master will not get you
Man...I can see it now: A bi-yearly bundle: Cardboard slipcover (assembly required: it'll ship better flat), DM screen with that arc's art, poster-size maps. Sweetness.
(I'd buy it.)
Man...I can see it now: A bi-yearly bundle: Cardboard slipcover (assembly required: it'll ship better flat), DM screen with that arc's art, poster-size maps. Sweetness.
(I'd buy it.)
yes i would so buy that that would be sweet
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But, if that's the case, and I realize this may be kinda early to request it, but what I think could be cool instead of a hardcover, but a slip cover to put the books in. something similiar to what National Geographic has. It could be set up such that every seperate AP would have a different case.
Slipcases or something like that is a far more likely possibility.
YES-YES-YES! I would buy a ton of slipcases right now! I love slip cases. Especially designer slipcases (that read _Pathfinder_ or some such). Please make plans to sell slipcases...etc, etc.
Man...I can see it now: A bi-yearly bundle: Cardboard slipcover (assembly required: it'll ship better flat), DM screen with that arc's art, poster-size maps. Sweetness.
(I'd buy it.)
yeah. I'd most likely purchase that.
Considering the hassle with storing and collecting softcovers, a slipcase, bundled with a map and a DMs screen would be a nice thing, making the whole pathfinder concept even more appealing. (I always hate it when softcover gaming books get bent from storing - my solution: buy enough to fill your storage tight enough that they don´t stand a chance to bend :-))
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Slipcases or something like that is a far more likely possibility. It wouldn't involve reprinting the books at all (which is costly), but would make a nice attractive way to bundle your adventure paths into one spot.
Absolutely! I buy slipcases for my National Geographics and I'd definitely buy them for Pathfinder. My Savage Tide issues of Dungeon are scattered all over the house and I can never find the one I need.
I would asolutely love the slipcover and GM screen.
we'll look into it.
-Vic.
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All I have to say is 'Awesome.'
I think the slip cases would be cool. And if they were packages with some supplemental material, all the better, because I'm happy to buy that if it helps with the adventure path, or offers some sort of sequel quest...like a "return to" or epilogue chapter, or something that addresses any lingering questions like now that I'm the baron, or provides some needed mechanics that were left out, etc...
Slipcases would be cool (just make sure they're big enough for the books and the supplemental material you provide with the cases, if any :-)
This is an awesome idea, and I would definently be buying these if you put them out.
Do we have more chance if we ask nicely? Please, Please, pretty please with sugar on top?
We've looked into slipcases in the past, and haven't been able to find them in a cost-effective form. However, since getting into the board game business, we've found some new resources for weird stuff, so... we'll look into it.
-Vic.
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I love the slipcase idea. But I have NO input whatsoever on those kinds of decisions. But I still love it!
Wishes he had sent in the coupon for the free Lord of the Rings DVD slipcase when he had a chance....
I love the idea as well. In fact, it was my LotR slipcase that makes me want one!!
<ducks as a DVD case is flung at his head>
I would also like to support the slipcase idea, perhaps as part of the 'Chronicles' subscription? :D
Bad idea. Theoretically, one can be a Chronicles subscriber but not a Pathfinder subscriber: Then you'd be stuck buying slipcovers for books you don't own. I'd rather it be a throw-in for subscribing to a whole AP, or a side purchase, depending on the amount of stuff it came with. (I'd pay 5 bucks every 6 months for the AP slipcover. 10 bucks if I also got an AP DM Screen.)
The again, the Map Folios are on the Chronicles subscription, and they're closely tied to the APs too. So I dunno.
I would also like to support the slipcase idea, perhaps as part of the 'Chronicles' subscription? :DBad idea. Theoretically, one can be a Chronicles subscriber but not a Pathfinder subscriber: Then you'd be stuck buying slipcovers for books you don't own. I'd rather it be a throw-in for subscribing to a whole AP, or a side purchase, depending on the amount of stuff it came with. (I'd pay 5 bucks every 6 months for the AP slipcover. 10 bucks if I also got an AP DM Screen.)
The again, the Map Folios are on the Chronicles subscription, and they're closely tied to the APs too. So I dunno.
I would also say that the less non-PDF stuff on the Chronicles subscription, the better. As there is no discount for subscribing to Chronicles, the only benefits to the subscriber are ordering convenience (including combined shipping) and the PDFs, in return for which the subscriber commits to buy everything on the list, whether they would otherwise buy each specific item or not.
The more non-electronic items on the subscription, the worse the cost-benefit to subscribe for someone who is not otherwise committed to buying every single thing.
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I would also like to support the slipcase idea, perhaps as part of the 'Chronicles' subscription? :DBad idea. Theoretically, one can be a Chronicles subscriber but not a Pathfinder subscriber: Then you'd be stuck buying slipcovers for books you don't own.
Aye, yeah, you're right. I didn't think about that. I rescind my previous statement, but it would be cool if the slipcases became another Pathfinder Subscriber perk... I don't imagine that will be financially possible, though, so I may have to just purchase them as they become available.
Slip case (even do-it-yourself)? DM Screen for every adventure path? WHY CAN'T I ORDER THIS ALREADY??
I'll repeat my request for a nice DM screen.
that I will suggest to Paizo because it might help make the print-run of slipcases more economical:
When Pathfinder was announced, a big deal was made over the fact it was a book, not a magazine. One of the benefits of a book is that it can be reprinted.
I'm a subscriber, and I would just be buying a slipcase at the end of every AP to keep my shiny Pathfinders shiny and organized.
However, others might want to pick up a whole AP at once. Since Paizo would have the slipcovers available at that point, they could offer a 'boxed set' (even if some assembly is required), either at a discount, or just to offer one-click purchasing of a whole AP. This purchase would be the analog of the Shackled City book.
(Also, the slipcase and screen need not contain any new art or other costs of that nature. I'd be happy with a slipcover with the Alt-art PF#1 cover and a DM screen featuring the first 4 iconics, for instance)
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I also like the idea of slipcases, mainly as a way to collect and store (or cart around) a complete adventure path. I double-like them if they include supplemental material, such as an index for all the material in that AP or an AP-specific DM screen with handy reference material for important locations, NPCs, and/or major plot points.
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I'd by interested in a slipcase as well. It'd be a nice way to organize everything, especially if the spine of the slipcase have like a big roman numeral 1 on it with the name of the Adventure path. Since we already know the future issues after Ruinlords will have a different spine, a slipcase would make it all look uniform... even if the actual art is different.
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There is another Thread about wanting a DM Screen for Pathfinder, (which seems to be a pretty popular idea) and I think that the whole combining the Slipcase with an AP specific DM Screen is a great idea.
Each AP could have a DM screen that has AP specific info on it (as well as the D&D Basics) featuring the same WAR Art that is on the Slipcase.
I wanna Buy it NOW!!!
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$5 - Slip cover
$5 - DM screen - Major NPC stat blocks, standard game mechanics, a 1-30 number scale on the right edge or top to put a paperclip (Maybe a RotRL clip) at the #30 to count down initiative, Stuff like that.
$ dunno price - Battle Maps/Flip Maps of important cool areas - Glassworks, Caverns, little goblin island (RotRL).
$ Dependant on the nature/number of handouts - Player hand outs from the AP - Player hand out#1 Letter detailing nasty things Tsuto (RotRL) wants to do to Sandpoint. (Erotic pages in Tsutos journal a plus :)
---Thats a freakin good idea, if you dont make Tsutos journal, I am going to. How cool would it be as a player to get handed a book with a few maps with plans to attack stuff, personal notes, and some artsy stuff.
I personally would like to see them available seperatly, and bundled at a minor discount.
We have no plans at this point to re-release Pathfinder Adventure Paths as compilations. The two big draws for doing Shackled City as a compilation hardcover aren't (hopefully) going to be issues with Pathfinder.
1: Shackled City had a fair amount of mis-steps by us; it was our first Adventure Path, and the hardcover gave us a chance to fix them. We're hoping that Rise of the Runelords and any Adventure Paths to come will stand on their own, more like how Age of Worms and Savage Tide do.
James, it has been over nine months since you wrote these words. Do you still feel this way about a possible hardcover after having to remove tens of thousands of words from Pathfinder 3 (and an unknown number from 2)? A hardcover would be a way to get this kind of information out into the world, like the extra stuff in Shackled City.
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We have no plans at this point to re-release Pathfinder Adventure Paths as compilations.James, it has been over nine months since you wrote these words. Do you still feel this way about a possible hardcover after having to remove tens of thousands of words from Pathfinder 3 (and an unknown number from 2)? A hardcover would be a way to get this kind of information out into the world, like the extra stuff in Shackled City.
I do. I think a hardcover compilation of Rise of the Runelords would be not only a waste of energy and effort, but it would significantly undermine Pathfinder's success, and in so doing, undermine Paizo's ability to produce Adventure Paths. As it turns out... Adventure Paths are pretty expensive to create, and by splitting them up over the course of six months of bite-sized manageable installments... they are possible.
As for the words cut from Hook Mountain and other adventures (Hook Mountain's the only one that had a significant amount of material cut, and again, much of what was cut from there got repurposed and put back in to Pathfinder 7's "Edge of Anarchy,") to be honest... the adventures work better without the bloat. More words does not always = better adventures.
If we DID a hardcover Runelords book (and we aren't planning one), there really wouldn't be much I would want to add, to tell the truth. The goal with Pathfinder is to produce adventure paths that are complete and workable the first time around.
I've posted a mock-up of what I'd like to see, Slipcase wise, here.
I like . . . I like. Love the slip cover idea . . . very very good.
I also want to throw in my support of the idea of a slipcase/DM screen/player handout package. I would gladly pay $15-$20 for this package.
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I just wanted to throw in my support for slip covers. However, if pathfinder will ever come out in hard covers I will discontinue my sub immediately and wait for the hard covers.
I think it would be a big mistake going that route, and I would MUCH rather see slip covers, though.
Exactly. Since we can't afford to do an Adventure Path all at once, and since I suspect a LOT of folk would discontinue their subs or wait till the end to buy a hardcover, we'd basically only get 1 hardcover out before Pathfinder itself collapses and dies.
So: No hardcovers in Pathfinder's future as far as I can see.
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I just wanted to throw in my support for slip covers. However, if pathfinder will ever come out in hard covers I will discontinue my sub immediately and wait for the hard covers.
I think it would be a big mistake going that route, and I would MUCH rather see slip covers, though.
Exactly. Since we can't afford to do an Adventure Path all at once, and since I suspect a LOT of folk would discontinue their subs or wait till the end to buy a hardcover, we'd basically only get 1 hardcover out before Pathfinder itself collapses and dies.
So: No hardcovers in Pathfinder's future as far as I can see.
Thats fine, I would like to get the savage tide in hardcover though. And a slip cover for my APs. I hate keeping magazine like books on a shelf, they fall over, get bent, fight with the other magazines for dominance West Side Story like.
I love the idea of a slipcase as well.
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Thats fine, I would like to get the savage tide in hardcover though. And a slip cover for my APs. I hate keeping magazine like books on a shelf, they fall over, get bent, fight with the other magazines for dominance West Side Story like.
I would love to see a hardcover Savage Tide as well... but I fear the chances of that ever happening are about 0%, alas, since the rights to do that are solely with Wizards of the Coast and they've got more than enough on their minds already, it seems.
New information regarding an old topic (from 2007).
There was interest at that time in slipcase holders for the Pathfinder Adventure Path series.
I have every Adventure Path issue and am a real sucker for slipcases.
I just received slipcase holders for 7 of the Adventure Paths from a German company, Ulisses Spiele. They look pretty good. The writing on the slipcases is in German, but there is very little of it and not easily noticed
If anyone else is interested, I recommend you take a look at the Ulisses Spiele site (do a search for slipcases ("Schuber")).
Of course you'll have to get around the language, in German (I used Google Translate). And there is shipping cost from Germany and VAT costs. They will waive the shipping costs on orders over 200,00 €.
But I'm quite happy with the purchase.
(I conducted all communication with their staff in English - no problem).
New information regarding an old topic (from 2007).
There was interest at that time in slipcase holders for the Pathfinder Adventure Path series.
I have every Adventure Path issue and am a real sucker for slipcases.
I just received slipcase holders for 7 of the Adventure Paths from a German company, Ulisses Spiele. They look pretty good. The writing on the slipcases is in German, but there is very little of it and not easily noticed
If anyone else is interested, I recommend you take a look at the Ulisses Spiele site (do a search for slipcases ("Schuber")).
Of course you'll have to get around the language, in German (I used Google Translate). And there is shipping cost from Germany and VAT costs. They will waive the shipping costs on orders over 200,00 €.
But I'm quite happy with the purchase.
(I conducted all communication with their staff in English - no problem).