Mark Moreland Director of Brand Strategy |
JonathanRoberts |
Congratulations to all those involved. It looks fantastic!
Just a quick note - the city map tiles on p85 are free for non-commercial use and you can grab the full resolution versions from my blog here:
Free City Map Tiles
Neil Spicer Contributor, RPG Superstar 2009, RPG Superstar Judgernaut |
Is this available as a print product?
I think this one is PDF-only, Snorter...though you could always use a print-on-demand service like Lulu to bind you a copy. So far, every odd-numbered Wayfinder has been printed and handed out at PaizoCon. The even-numbered issues give them a chance to provide another fix bi-annually.
Soricel Minoi Mousefeet |
This baby was so sweet that we wanted to keep'it for ourselves... thou we got careless and the goblings managed to upload it after all...
Congratz to writters, editors, artists and supporting paizonianz! Now on to WF5... :D
Hope you like!
Ohh I do like, very much so, specially my layout :D. Once again outstanding job everyone.
Timitius Wayfinder, PaizoCon Founder |
Sgmendez |
I actually have a question for anyone who worked on this, or Troy E. Taylor, about the Prestige Class, Dawa Defender. It doesn't seem to make much sense to me. As it is now it gains the class feature:
Beginning at 1st level and every level thereafter, the dawa defender has the choice of the type damage reduction it benefits from, by choosing the associated fetish. As the dawa defender progresses in levels, he can increase the damage reduction in a given type by 1 or choose another.
There are three types of damage reduction available at each level. A dawa defender must pick one of the following fetishes.
Beads: Adorning himself with pebbles, seeds or other round objects, the dawa defender gains a +1 damage reduction to bludgeoning damage.
Points: The dawa defender decorates himself with pointed objects such as arrowheads, nails and needles. This grants a +1 damage reduction to piercing damage.
Razors Thin slivers of metal, bone fragments or obsidian flakes grant the dawa defender a +1 damage reduction to slashing damage.
At each level, the dawa defender has the choice of selecting a new type of fetish, or by selecting one it already wears, and increasing the corresponding damage reduction by +1.
Now why would you ever choose to gain more than one of the different types of DR since DR works by allowing the thing you have DR for to bypass it. So if you gained DR 1/Bludgeoning then you reduce all non bludgeoning damage by 1 but bludgeoning damage does full damage to you. Now if you take, at 2nd level, the Points option you now have DR 1/Bludgeoning or Slashing meaning that now two things can bypass your DR, which means you are now less resistant to attack instead of more so.
How is that good in any way? Unless I am understanding the ability incorrectly and it actually gives you DR 1/everything except Bludgeoning.
Now the Greater Juju is actually useful if it works how I think it works, it makes it so that the attack has to be magical to bypass your DR.
gbonehead Owner - House of Books and Games LLC |
Now why would you ever choose to gain more than one of the different types of DR since DR works by allowing the thing you have DR for to bypass it.
The Dawa has to choose one fetish to use; they may or may not have more than one fetish available based on their choices made as they advanced.
Thus, when facing that ogre, the Dawa would select, say, DR x/piercing, but would put that fetish away quickly when facing that rogue with the rapier.
Snorter |
Now why would you ever choose to gain more than one of the different types of DR since DR works by allowing the thing you have DR for to bypass it. So if you gained DR 1/Bludgeoning then you reduce all non bludgeoning damage by 1 but bludgeoning damage does full damage to you. Now if you take, at 2nd level, the Points option you now have DR 1/Bludgeoning or Slashing meaning that now two things can bypass your DR, which means you are now less resistant to attack instead of more so.
How is that good in any way? Unless I am understanding the ability incorrectly and it actually gives you DR 1/everything except Bludgeoning.
Having a) DR 1/bludgeoning, and DR 1/slashing, is not the same as either;
b) DR 1/bludgeoning and slashing, or
c) DR 1/bludgeoning or slashing.
a) gives DR1, when attacked by either a bludgeoning or slashing attack (one DR is effectively worthless, so is ignored; the other, separate DR is checked, and applies).
b) gives DR 1, unless the attack is both bludgeoning and slashing (is there such a weapon? Some sort of hammer-pick? Earthbreaker? I haven't time to look).
c) gives DR 1, unless the attack is either bludgeoning or slashing.
b) and c) are one source of DR, with more complex conditions, a) is two separate sources of DR, and I believe, the intent of the writer is to grant a).
gbonehead Owner - House of Books and Games LLC |
... unless the attack is both bludgeoning and slashing (is there such a weapon? Some sort of hammer-pick? Earthbreaker? I haven't time to look).
I believe natural weapons such as claws and bites count as both.
Looked it up - and it depends on the type of natural attack - see Natural Attacks, but "bite" and "other" count as bludgeoning/slashing/piercing, while all others are just one or two.
Sgmendez |
Sgmendez wrote:Now why would you ever choose to gain more than one of the different types of DR since DR works by allowing the thing you have DR for to bypass it.The Dawa has to choose one fetish to use; they may or may not have more than one fetish available based on their choices made as they advanced.
Thus, when facing that ogre, the Dawa would select, say, DR x/piercing, but would put that fetish away quickly when facing that rogue with the rapier.
But no where in the text does it say that you choose to only have one apply. By RAW both apply at all times. The difference between DR 2/B and DR 1/P or S is that the first one reduces all damage except B by 2 and the second one only reduces B damage by 1. So either you stay with one and reduce two types of damage by 2, or you reduce only one type of damage by 1.
Now if it works DR #/P and DR #/S then it mechanically just becomes DR #/- because only a very few weapons deal two types of damage at the same time. (Morningstar is the only one that comes to mind right now with P and B.) Unless you really didn't keep the two DR even in which case it would have probably have been better to just raise one.
And Snorter, what exactly is your post about? I understand how DR works. I guess my confusion was in that the way it is worded it sounds like you get DR 1/S and B, or DR 1/S or B, where I guess you actually get DR 1/S and DR 1/B.
Overall the class seem like an interesting idea but just feels that it gets a little too complicated with all the different types of DR and how they interact.
Snorter |
And Snorter, what exactly is your post about? I understand how DR works. I guess my confusion was in that the way it is worded it sounds like you get DR 1/S and B, or DR 1/S or B, where I guess you actually get DR 1/S and DR 1/B.
That's the gist of it, yes.
You can have multiple sources of DR running concurrently; if attacked you check the attack vs the different sources of DR, ignore any that the attack bypasses, and if any remain, apply one (and only one) of the DR values.
Imagine a barbarian with DR 2/- from his class, who is granted DR 10/adamantine from stoneskin.
If he's attacked by a steel weapon, both DR could apply, so he applies DR 10 from the stoneskin (they don't stack).
If he's attacked by an adamantine weapon, it ignores the spell, and so the barbarian applies the back-up DR 2 from his class.
See the PFSRD for more details, here.
Specifically the last paragraph,
If a creature has damage reduction from more than one source, the two forms of damage reduction do not stack. Instead, the creature gets the benefit of the best damage reduction in a given situation.
Louis IX |
Hello all,
Firstly, thanks for the Wayfinder.
I have read the description of the Twinning spell (cleric 4) on d20pfsrd.com, and I have this question: are those "extra attacks" really from "each" weapon held?
For instance, a character with TWF and two Light weapons could make the regular attack sequence (2 attacks) then 4 extra attacks because of the 4 weapons "held"?
I haven't found a reference of this spell in the messageboards, hence the question here.
Thanks all.