Pathfinder #17—Second Darkness Chapter 5: "A Memory of Darkness" (OGL)

What are those weapons...????

What are those weapons...????

Bladed Gauntlets. They're basically the same as a spiked gauntlet, but they do slashing damage instead of piercing damage.

They look more like modified katars... Though, having a single cutting edge like that and no point would make fighting with them much different than a normal katar...

ooooooo!
purty!

Is it just coincidence that Brandon Sanderson hopes to submit Robert Jordan's "A Memory of Light" manuscript for editing in December of 08'as well

Just saying.

"What is Light without Darkness" Lord of Darkness from Legend

Is it just coincidence that Brandon Sanderson hopes to submit Robert Jordan's "A Memory of Light" manuscript for editing in December of 08'as well...

Apparently, it *is* a coincidence.

Probably a coincidence.

I love WoT if Brian messes it i will be devestated :)

Man I can't wait until December! I need that Calistria info!

I've posted the finished cover.

Finally, an archer on the cover! Great work!

I've posted the finished cover.

Thanks Vic! This looks awesome. I hate to say it, but I think I like the SD covers more than the previous iconics ones by WAR. Maybe it's that the portrait on each seems to gel better with the Path as a whole. In any case, keep the good covers comin'!

wow...that archer looks great.

I in general, I really like WAR's stuff. However, the characters on the front of 2nd Darkness are really good :)

Nice cover. Is that a Bebillith in the background or some kind of new monster we've yet to see? Also I don't suppose anyone official has said anything about who that archer is?

Love the new artwork.

So any idea when subscribers will be getting this one?

So any idea when subscribers will be getting this one?

Product Schedule says early January.

I noticed this product has appeared in my orders, and that the estimate now says december, does that mean you plan to ship it after the 28th?

(the main page says pazio is closed until sunday 29th, but the 29th is a monday so I assume they meant they would open on the 29th...)

Today I received an email from Paizo saying it will ship next week, so, yes, it is possible that it ships in the last days of December, I think.

Ah, the speculation begins...

We found out this week that the shipment containing Pathfinder 17, as well as Pathfinder Companion: Osirion, and Pathfinder Chronicles: Guide to Absalom will be on time after all!

(Earlier in the month, we were told that it had been delayed until early January).

Assuming weather doesn't get in the way, we expect to ship subscriber copies next week.

We found out this week that the shipment containing Pathfinder 17, as well as Pathfinder Companion: Osirion, and Pathfinder Chronicles: Guide to Absalom will be on time after all!

(Earlier in the month, we were told that it had been delayed until early January).

Assuming weather doesn't get in the way, we expect to ship subscriber copies next week.

Great work Vic! Three volumes of Paizo-goodness is just what I need to pass the time during the slow holidays.

So are they ready to ship yet? My anticipation meter is off the scale.

Credit card just got charged....

So are they ready to ship yet? My anticipation meter is off the scale.

We're told they'll be in our warehouse tomorrow; Gary has begun the process of charging cards and printing labels.

WOOT!!! That is great news!

FYI: In the Single File per Chapter PDF for #17, in the adventure chapter, the map on page 36 is only selectable in sections (trying to get labelless maps using Adobe Reader 8).

I checked the rest of the maps - no other problems that I noticed.

That happens on some of the larger maps. It can be frustrating.

FYI: In the Single File per Chapter PDF for #17, in the adventure chapter, the map on page 36 is only selectable in sections (trying to get labelless maps using Adobe Reader 8).

I checked the rest of the maps - no other problems that I noticed.

Weird. We'll see if we can't get it fixed.

Pygon wrote:

FYI: In the Single File per Chapter PDF for #17, in the adventure chapter, the map on page 36 is only selectable in sections (trying to get labelless maps using Adobe Reader 8).

I checked the rest of the maps - no other problems that I noticed.

Weird. We'll see if we can't get it fixed.

Hmm. My usual methods for fixing that sort of thing aren't working...

Kick harder!

Hmm, seems my former bank is slow with canceling my card. Good for me, I guess. :)

Anyway, first glance-through looks great. I have not read anything in detail, of course, but the (male) priest of Calistria looks good enough to take home - and I am a heterosexual male.

Another issue with the PDF, both pre- and post-revision: it seems to be missing the title page, jumping straight from the Drow Runes to the Credits page. The problem with this is that if you're viewing the PDF in 2-page mode, it leaves the odd numbered pages on the left instead of the right, and our two-page spreads are broken up.

I'm running Preview on Mac, and this seems to be the first time this has happened - earlier chapters of Second Darkness all display correctly. Same behavior on Adobe Reader, although at least there you can toggle the "Show Cover in 2-Up" option to get the display correct.

This is the Single File edition, not the multiple PDF version.

After reading over this, I am sad that I have only started part 2 of the AP. I can't wait until my players get to A Memory of Darkness, it is everything I could have hoped for and more.

On a second, complete reading: I was afraid this adventure would be yet another backstab by people the group would like to trust and ally with - something that needs to be done very sparingly. Thus, I was very critical of it.

Another issue with the PDF, both pre- and post-revision: it seems to be missing the title page, jumping straight from the Drow Runes to the Credits page. The problem with this is that if you're viewing the PDF in 2-page mode, it leaves the odd numbered pages on the left instead of the right, and our two-page spreads are broken up.

I'm running Preview on Mac, and this seems to be the first time this has happened - earlier chapters of Second Darkness all display correctly. Same behavior on Adobe Reader, although at least there you can toggle the "Show Cover in 2-Up" option to get the display correct.

This is the Single File edition, not the multiple PDF version.

Just noticed that Myself..

The unscrupulous Dr. Pweent wrote:

Another issue with the PDF, both pre- and post-revision: it seems to be missing the title page, jumping straight from the Drow Runes to the Credits page. The problem with this is that if you're viewing the PDF in 2-page mode, it leaves the odd numbered pages on the left instead of the right, and our two-page spreads are broken up.

I'm running Preview on Mac, and this seems to be the first time this has happened - earlier chapters of Second Darkness all display correctly. Same behavior on Adobe Reader, although at least there you can toggle the "Show Cover in 2-Up" option to get the display correct.

This is the Single File edition, not the multiple PDF version.

Just noticed that Myself..

We'll fix on Monday.

We'll fix on Monday.

Thanks, Vic!

On the inside cover, PF17 says that PCs should start at 12th and reach 14th at the end. The iconics in the back are statted for 12th level. The product description says it's for 11th-13th.

PF16's inside cover says it starts at 9th and ends at 11th. The iconics there are statted at 10th level.

Which is correct?

I've updated the product descriptions on the website:

16: 9–11
17: 12–14
18: 14–16

Thank you!

Alright, I've taken 20 on my Search/Perception check and I still can't find what I'm looking for...

On page 36, what do the letters in the un-numbered rooms mean? :-\

Alright, I've taken 20 on my Search/Perception check and I still can't find what I'm looking for...

On page 36, what do the letters in the un-numbered rooms mean? :-\

See the sidebar on page 33.

Thanks Vic — I was starting to think I was crazy! I never would have expected to find a map legend a full two page-turns removed from the closest map.

I can see that page 26 couldn't have supported another sidebar, but it looks like 37 might have. I'm just thankful I had the time to read everything and get a response from you well before I'll running this part of the AP. However, I can easily see myself performing a *headdesk* behind my DM screen if trying to perform such a hunt at gametime — perhaps a bit of usability feedback to keep in mind for future page layouts. :)

Thanks Vic — I was starting to think I was crazy! I never would have expected to find a map legend a full two page-turns removed from the closest map.

I can see that page 26 couldn't have supported another sidebar, but it looks like 37 might have. I'm just thankful I had the time to read everything and get a response from you well before I'll running this part of the AP. However, I can easily see myself performing a *headdesk* behind my DM screen if trying to perform such a hunt at gametime — perhaps a bit of usability feedback to keep in mind for future page layouts. :)

I'm totally in agreement there!

Please tell me the elf on the cover is going to be a PF mini from Reaper!