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Shadow Knight 12 wrote:
Yrsa was working in a doctors office and happened upon Riley's medical tests or whatever then. Presumably EvilCorp monitors that information, and Yrsa just prevented them from getting wind of Riley. I never got a sense she was working for them.
Shadow Knight 12 wrote:
Yrsa is not working for the evil corp or with Whispers. In fact she plainly states that contacting Riley in the present was a mistake, and that she was picking up and getting out of dodge to prevent Whispers from finding her.
Jonas on other hand...I think he is probably secretly working with Whispers. Will seems him strapped down, but since Will can contact him he HAS to put on a air of captivity.
At the best, Jonas is a magneto figure who might be against Whispers, but probably has his own not very nice agenda.
Overwhelmingly the change in public opinion was pushed by gay people coming out and convincing their on-the-fence friends and families that they weren't some weird dangerous Others after all. Along with a similar process in the media, with celebrities that people already liked coming out and LGB characters becoming more prevalent. Scientific arguments...
Public opinion is really the most important thing here. All anyone has to look at is everything in the media dealing with climate change/vaccinations/GM foods/evolution to see that you can have an opinion strongly backed by a large body of scientific research and still have politics work against you.
Having studies backing your opinion is great, but unless you can also bring out the public support, it's unlikely you can overcome the existing inertia of laws and regulations. Gays have pretty much had that going for the last few decades, and Transpeople are also getting more support in the media.
To really start the process of legalizing marriages involving multiple consenting adults, you need to get more people to come out in support of such relationships to indicate that such relationships can be healthy and pedestrian, something that really hasn't happened yet. And you will need a lot of that to counter all the Warren Jeffs and people of similar ilk in the media
I admit I didn't like the fate of Androffa, mostly because we have already have Golarion as a standard fantasy world. I'd rather imagine it getting taken over by the Dominion or becoming some sort of Dystopian Empire. That Androffa is out there and MIGHT be searching for the Divinity I think just has more potential for future story telling.
Orfamay Quest wrote:
I see what you are saying, but I do think there is a difference. You are still using the law to deny a group of a basic right that both groups want. Whereas in altered example you provide you are depriving a group of something they would have no reason to ever want.
In the case of polygamy...there is just no legal basis anywhere in the law for marriages containing multiple people. You would probably need to first establish some baselines for multiple partners before you could lay the groundwork. And before you do that you would need polygamy to receive popular support and actually make it a national issue. There are gay people in every state of the union...I am not polygamy has that spread of occurrence.
Lord Snow wrote:
Here in the states...the largest groups that supports legalization of polygamy are the various Mormon splinter groups. So In affect it is really about Mormon (and also muslim) polygamy, since those are the groups with the largest numbers of polygamous proponents in the states.
I know there are polyamorous relationships composed of multiple men/women, where each person has an equal say in the relationship and feelings are shared amongst the entire group. I wouldn't mind granting marriage rights to people in such relationships. I just don't think that describes most polygamous relationships in the USA. I'd hazard a guess that, for many if not most of the mormon splinter sects, woman don't have a whole lot of say in their choices search of extra wives, and they certainly would not support a woman having multiple husbands.
Lord Snow wrote:
Well in the case of legalizing gay marriage, it is an example of one group being denied a privilege that is legally always available for another. I.e. we grant straight couples the rights to marry (and all the associated benefits), but do not do the same for gay couples.
In contrast...no one, gay or straight, white or black, is allowed to marry multiple partners. You are not granting a special privilege to one group and not another. So I think its a lot harder to find a legal ground to dig in on.
I kind of imagine Drow, in my own homebrew version of Golarion, as having a society not that dissimilar to that exhibited in The Purge movies. Drow day to day bottle up all their pathologies that would prevent them from functioning as a society. They then periodically let all those emotions out in quasi-regulated murderfests against their own kind.
Although I hate the "all members of a race are chaotic evil" trope, so it's really the nobles who are bad, and the commoners tend to suffer the most.
I admit, in my younger days I was all about kicking government out of the whole marriage business. However we really are several hundred years (if not longer) too late to keep marriages separate from government civil unions. There are just too many legal privileges and rules bound up with the definition of marriage to change at this point.
As for polygamy...Hypothetically I am all about extending those privileges. But...There is nowhere near enough support for that currently, and gay marriage doesn't really provide a precedent the way people thing it does. Also...to be fair I think a lot of polygamy is still bound up in some unhealthy ideas about women and patriarchy that I would rather see go away...
So since the topic of Trans in the media came up, has anyone checked out netflix show Sense8? Two of the eight main characters are gay, and one is a transwoman. Both are pretty positive interpretations I think. Apparently Lana Wachowski channeled quite a bit of her experiences into the transwoman Nomi, and the whole show is just...awesome. I am going to flip all the tables if we don't get a season 2.
I don't have anywhere the time and money that some of you folks have for third party material.
That said...I really like that Dreamscarred has updated and kept alive 3.5 Psionics for use with Pathfinder, and I appreciate that Paizo has gone ahead and gone a separate path with Psychic magic.
Also all the work Kobold Press has done on Midgard. I think they did a great job on the flavor and races, and I find Midgard Dwarves and Kobolds far better than their interpretation of them in Golarion.
Right now I am most looking forward to Legendary Games Space Fantasy setting. Its a niche that is not really developed by anyone all that well, and reading the recent GRRM edited Mars and Venus anthologies has me psyched for this genre.
Thomas Jones wrote:
IIRC, there isn't a whole lot of difference between the costs of producing a pdf and a printed book. Most of the money goes into layout/writing/editing/art. On top of that...it still ends up taking up time that can be used for other books, in which case it would be better to just release it as a normal book than as extra work on the schedule in addition to all the other CS books
And art is a big seller for the books I think...I don't think they would go through and produce a book with no art, because the savings from not having to order art would not offset lost of customers who won't buy something with no art.
I mean don't get me wrong, The revisited books were some of my favorite campaign setting books. I would love for them to come back, especially as there are still plenty of creature types/niches to cover.
I think they gave away the twist because of fear the twist would tick people off. A good twist in a movie can lead to strong word of mouth and increase sales, but a bad one can cause people to hate the movie.
Also I thought I remember that the title mispelling was actually originally a typo, but it somehow got buzz and they decided to roll with it
Well...I mean realistically they probably wouldn't....BUT
Drow are relatively isolated in the underdark, and while there are probably nastier things down there, they are probably even more reduced in numbers than Drow.
Drow are chaotic evil, but they seem to have enough cohesion as a culture to manage a united front against non-drow enemies.
anyway just some ideas on why they are still around. James Jacob would probably have other ideas too.
I think religious institutions can be considered tax exempt, not individuals. There are plenty of cases of evangelists and religious folks who have tried to hide personal fortunes as "church property", only to end up in jail for tax fraud.
I don't even understand how the authoritarian or greenpeace clubbing seals has anything whatsoever to do with climate change.
If the authoritarian comment is that government control of stuff is bad, that sort of negates all the examples where government stepping in and regulating/deregulating things has been considered good. People right now are decrying the legalization of gay marriage in the states as big government stepping in and getting in the way of gay rights. that is an authoritarian response that I think most posters here think is fair.
On environmental issues, There are plenty of government treaties and bans that have generally helped the environment. CITES for instance has done a lot in regulating the traffic of endangered species. There is still a black market and smuggling going on, but in many parts of the world it is less than it would be without CITES.
Greenpeace is pretty insignificant when it comes to influencing research. A lot of academics consider them a joke, and they certainly are not funding climate change research, at least on any significant level. That is in contrast to companies like BP oil, EXXON, etc, which often do provide large amounts of funding to university departments. My last graduate school department was geology and geophysics, and we were probably one of the best funded departments on campus thanks to donations from the energy industry. Yet somehow people in my department still worked on climate change related research.
Okay just finished this series, which is truly awesome...
Anyway, random thoughts:
I didn't pick up any moment where Whispers would have been particularly easy to kill. And I agree with some others...we don't really know his full capabilities or the powers of a sensate. WE know he can puppeteer people for instance. Who knows what else he is capable of. Hell...he could be capable of body jumping for all we know, so putting a bullet in him would just result in him getting pissed off.
Also, yeah unfortunately Riley was the designated damsel in distress this season. Its possible however that next season we will figure out what role she will play in the cluster, and be able to more proactively contribute to the cluster's survival. Whether that is through some unrevealed background, experience with drugs, or development of powers beyond the other sensates, I have no clue.
My main research focuses on marine mammal evolution, principally seals but also whales (especially next year). A key interest of mind is biogeography, and for marine mammals that is heavily controlled by sea surface temperature and productivity. So I spent a decent amount of time looking up how sea surface temperature and productivity has changed over time. For instance, for most of the Neogene, there was pretty much a stable band of tropical water around the equator. This produced a sort of wall which prevented different groups, such as sea lions and fur seals, from spreading south from the North Pacific. That wall was "breached" so to say around the Miocene-Pliocene boundary, and a few times later on in the Pliocene and Pleistocene, when equatorial waters cooled and productivity increased. We can easily see this in the fossil record of both hemispheres, as well as marine mammal distribution today.
I think I have heard some stuff similar to what you describe for ocean water temperature, but it's more along the lines that the ocean is so big it actually takes a while to get a "shift" in temperature, when compared to land or air. Most of the stuff I have seen and remember revolves around ocean acidity (more CO2 -> greater acidity -> bad news for anything with a carbonate skeleton, like corals) and the fact that increased temperature leads to increased evaporation which in turn magnifies the greenhouse effect.
PIXIE DUST wrote:
Yes...but you have personally already stated this...How many times? The devs have stated they read through all of the posts in this forum. Do you think repeating the same critique 3 or 4 times, that on the fourth time the Developers will suddenly go "OMG WE NEED TO FIX THE ZEALOT"?
I mean I don't even disagree with you on the zealot needing more options to make itself distinct. But me posting that 20 times...is not going to magically cause the developers to respond, and I think in unison with other posters as well as the..tone...which often accompanies posts like these. It doesn't actually help anyone, and may even hurt the class by causing subconscious push back from the developers and driving playtesters away before they even look at the class.
Also it's been...a weeks since the playtest started? What makes you think the developers are not working on solutions? I mean there were people criticizing the lack of developer response the day after the playtest.
William Ronald wrote:
Oh yeah. Best example of that was a husband and wife who decided to bring there two young children to KILL BILL VOLUME ONE. That family didn't last through the anime sequence before they had to leave.
Seriously folks...in the age of the internet its not that hard to research a movie before you go and see it.
I don't think theorycrafting is bad, however sometimes the tone used in some posts about theorycrafting...are not conducive to further discussion. Posting your initial thoughts on a class is good. Posting your initial thoughts, in a slighty rephrased manner, multiple of times and in multiple threads...is less useful. It comes across as shouting.
Doing the above, but then also including phrases like "garbage", "pathetic" or similar phrasings and descriptive terminology and exaggerations. Or slamming the devs, and demanding they respond to you. Well whatever you are doing, its certainly not constructive criticism.
Honestly I think the above just burns out the devs, who do read everything here. and contrary to what some posters may think, it certainly doesn't make them more likely to accept your "words of wisdom" on class options.
This actually leads into something I've been wondering: is it possible to have a Vigilante identity that worships (and gains mechanical benefits from) a deity who's alignment is incompatible with the secret identity? Because I would love to use an NPC who seems to be a (neutral) good man, but under the right circumstances he prowls the night doing the (un)holy work of Father Skinsaw.
I think that would be a good idea for an archetype, but maybe not something baked into the default vigilante chassis.
People do replicate the various studies that have gone into understanding how our climate works, via reanalysis of data using new methods, addition or use of alternative data sets, and tweaking models to include additional parameters. I come across dozens of papers a year in various journals and from various research groups looking at how climate change work, and that is me just looking for paper relevant to my own research interests in ocean climate change over the Neogene.
Anyway to the original subject (and speaking broadly of conspiracies, not just specifically climate change), I blame the following:
1. Dismal science education in this country. A lot of students are just not getting the background necessary to evaluate a source and determine if its legitimate or not.
2. The human tendency for indoctrination. Many people have a set of beliefs that have been imparted upon them at an early age. These beliefs are often wrapped up with political and religious ideas, and people don't want their ideas of their place in the universe challenged. In fact challenging them on these ideas just usually makes them dig in harder
3. Media's desire for conflict and "every story has two sides". This means that even when an idea has almost unanimous support (say, dinosaurs being the ancestors of birds...), the Media will go and search out someone to disagree with whatever finding is being published. On a similar note, studies that are widely considered to be crap (Say, Triassic Kraken art) get reported on even though their authors are considered cranks.
4. Overall poor ethics and training of science reporters. Reducing new science to soundbites, which may loose any of the subtlety of the original findings and even outright get things wrong. Especially if they try to go for a click bait headline. Add in that science journalists are dying out and many news stories get covered by people with no background makes things worse
5. Money. Organizations and companies with an agenda do not want to loose money or public support. Often they can inundate the media with misleading adds or buy off politicians. Even if the company goes under or changes its mind, they create a base for future believers to draw upon.
6. People are lazy. Telling people that they should change their lifestyle meets resistance, and people will look for any justification to continue whatever habits, no matter how self destructive it may be, or what long term risks it poses.
This is very, very wrong.
The asteroid probably caused a short nuclear winter of a few years, but nothing significant or long lasting. Certainly there is no evidence of any glaciation or ice sheet formation, and we have a good record for this interval in the high Arctic. In fact, the Cretaceous was actually a time of cooler climate than the subsequent Paleocene which saw alligators and palms trees above the arctic circle. It certainly didn't lead to the earth being thrown off its axis.
The Ice Ages of the Pleistocene (which only started 2.6 million years ago, versus 65 million years when dinosaurs died out) were caused by changes in plate tectonics which altered ocean currents and airflow patterns, as well predictable and cyclical changes in earth orbit which lead to decreased solar radiation.
IIRC, They have already stated that the movie starts with Spiderman being powered and fighting crime.
And yeah I think Garfield was actually a better Spiderman than Maguire. Although one and two had far better plots and villains.
A lot of classes however could be argued to be redundant and could just be done with existing classes/multiclassing. Usually they exist because they are custom designed for their niche.
In the case of Vigilante, it's design from the ground up is based off of having an alter ego. Other characters can have alter egos, but Vigilante should be the easiest to mechanically fulfill that option with the least fuss. If it isn't fulfilling that goal, than the social persona and such needs to be buffed or redesigned...not the flavoring.
Also, I think a serious argument could be made that by fitting origin stories with certain mechanics, you are going to produce a class that is going to close off a lot of options for players on its release. As an example, just looked at the unchained summoner, which enforces specific outsider types on the eidolon. There was limited room for different outsider types, and many of those types have limits on options available to them. A lot of summoner ideas available in the "old" version of the class are difficult or impossible to pull off in the new version. I don't see how something similar won't happen with any sort of origin mechanics, which will have to share room in the book with a long list of talents and similar vigilante options.
The dual identity is a set of mechanics to support alter egos. I don't think they need special justification anymore than a high level character needs special justification on they can survive falling a mile and then getting back up and fighting. Beyond that, I don't really want to turn every vigilante into someone with some flavor of multiple personality disorder. My character might want to play a dashing masked hero at night out of a sense of adventure and justice, not because of some traumatic event.
It should DO the alter ego thing better than anyone else, but I am not sure the origins help that. Rather it would be better if the social mode got furthered buffed by talents and further specialization for infiltration and espionage.
Every character in the game has an origin story than. I don't necessarily see a need to make it special for the Vigilante.
Eh...I already was sort of meh on the movie at best based on trailers and interviews with the director (Blogger Doom, dark tone, constant references to Cronenberg, etc). Fox has been...maybe 50/50 at best with superhero flicks IMHO. So I have a greater degree of skepticism about this movie than about practically any other superhero movie coming out in the near future.
Anyway we only have a little more than a month before we know if it going to suck or not.