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I have a stat rolling option I would like to see tested out:

1 stat- 2d4+10
1 stat- 2d6+6
1 stat- 2d8+2
the three remaining at 3d6.

I would want the top three assigned to stats prior to rolling then roll everything in order and allowing the swapping of any 2 stats.

I test rolled this 5 times, broke the numbers down into point buy and averaged and got an 18 Point buy average....I need to do a larger set to really determine if I just rolled high or low but I am thinking I may have a new rolling method for future endeavors.

Fake Healer wrote:

ZanThrax wrote:

Let the new player have his Drizzt clone. Heck, you can even give him a figurine of wonderous power and then show his this feat to make his (not-so) inner fanboy gleeful.

I have an off-subject question: What is the Archives of Nethys? Is this a person's houserules blog for their own game? Is it a rules subset of Pathfinder for a group of different gamers using the site? I can't really figure out what it is....but I have seen some really interesting things on there and wanted to find out more.

Since I run the site, I can answer this.

The Archives of Nethys is a compilation of all the 'crunch' in the Pathfinder Companion, RPG, Campaign Setting, Module, and Adventure Path lines. There are no houserules or 3rd-party material, all the material is straight from the Paizo-produced books.

That said, the tools I wrote (Magic Item and Background Generators) do have *some* of my own interpretations in them, but primarily use the random rules already provided in Ultimate Equipment and Campaign.

As I use the OGL and CUP (no stores or anything associated with the site), I am able to use the real names and Golarion-centric information.

It is a bit slow at times (I've been looking into other hosts) and the updates don't come *as* quick as I'd like. I abide by Paizo's request to wait 2 weeks after a book is out in stores before posting its material online, but am not always able to have things up right then if there are a lot of books in that month. For example, I was able to have the books up relatively close to the mark two months ago, but last month I had the Bestiary 4 to deal with and ended up being a couple weeks later. I'm only one guy, so it happens. :)

If you have any other questions, feel free to email me: asknethys at karuikage dot net

Thanks for the info. I am checking it out and so far LOVE what you have going on here. I think the next campaign will be "If you find it on AoN, you can use it". Good job compiling a ton of info.

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Don't mind me I suppose I'm just bitter that Cthulhu has been reduced to "just another monster". And I'll be hearing stories about "my paladin poked out Cthulhu's eye with his +10 sword v Mythos". Somehow seems wrong.

This...a thousand times THIS.

Let the new player have his Drizzt clone. Heck, you can even give him a figurine of wonderous power and then show his this feat to make his (not-so) inner fanboy gleeful.

I have an off-subject question: What is the Archives of Nethys? Is this a person's houserules blog for their own game? Is it a rules subset of Pathfinder for a group of different gamers using the site? I can't really figure out what it is....but I have seen some really interesting things on there and wanted to find out more.

This is fun. Ok my 3.5 DM has us roll 4D6 drop one (normal) roll three sets, pick the best set. Any idea of average here?

I think someone did that one a few years back and got something like 25pt buy...28? Not exactly sure but it was high enough that I ruled it out as an option for me.

Robert A Matthews wrote:

Fake Healer wrote:

Robert A Matthews wrote:

Wrong John Silver wrote:

BigDTBone wrote:

This isn't the case either. With a BAB of +6 and quick draw you could Two-Hand Attack with a Great Sword and then drop it, quick draw a Great Club and Two-Hand attack with that.

Let me try explaining my point differently. The number of available weapons does not affect the number of attacks someone can make.

Nobody said that it does. you are bound by how many hands you have available and your BAB. If you have four hands, you can punch four times.

Or you could punch someone, quickdraw a dagger and stab someone, drop that and pull out the longbow and fire it, and then punch a dude again.

Yup, minus the longbow part as that requires two hands. But you can take a loaded crossbow and fire it one handed.

I'm sorry but you are wrong. You can make attacks with one-hand, two-hand, or ranged weapons without limits except for maybe the extra attacks from TWFing. There is no rule that says you have to take all attacks in an attack action in the same fashion.

To clarify, iterative attacks can be taken with different weapons, 1 handed and/or 2 handed and/or ranged. Just because you used 2 different weapons in a series doesn't mean you are twfing. TWFing is taking an extra attack with a second weapon.

Fake Healer wrote:

Robert A Matthews wrote:

Wrong John Silver wrote:

BigDTBone wrote:

This isn't the case either. With a BAB of +6 and quick draw you could Two-Hand Attack with a Great Sword and then drop it, quick draw a Great Club and Two-Hand attack with that.

Let me try explaining my point differently. The number of available weapons does not affect the number of attacks someone can make.

Nobody said that it does. you are bound by how many hands you have available and your BAB. If you have four hands, you can punch four times.

Or you could punch someone, quickdraw a dagger and stab someone, drop that and pull out the longbow and fire it, and then punch a dude again.

Yup, minus the longbow part as that requires two hands. But you can take a loaded crossbow and fire it one handed.

I'm sorry but you are wrong. You can make attacks with one-hand, two-hand, or ranged weapons without limits except for maybe the extra attacks from TWFing. There is no rule that says you have to take all attacks in an attack action in the same fashion.

Wrong John Silver wrote:

BigDTBone wrote:

This isn't the case either. With a BAB of +6 and quick draw you could Two-Hand Attack with a Great Sword and then drop it, quick draw a Great Club and Two-Hand attack with that.

Let me try explaining my point differently. The number of available weapons does not affect the number of attacks someone can make.

Nobody said that it does. you are bound by how many hands you have available and your BAB. If you have four hands, you can punch four times.

Or you could punch someone, quickdraw a dagger and stab someone, drop that and pull out the longbow and fire it, and then punch a dude again.

The hand is only occupied when shooting. In a full attack you could fire off an arrow, punch the dude next to you, then fire another shot off if you wanted.
There is no limitation on the hand except that "You need two hands to use a bow". If you are not firing the bow, you are not using it and that free hand can do other things. Your hand commitment is only that when you shoot the bow you need two hands. Using an iterative attack to punch or use armor spikes on someone does not prevent you from shooting in other iterative attacks or before.

Pathfinder E6 discussion.
E6 rules

Just to clarify, with E6/P6/E8/P8 or whatever, you would level up as normal until you hit the target level (6,8 or whatever) then after that you gain a feat at a certain interval of additional XP without gaining any more hp, abilities, spells, BAB, etc that you would gain with a level. In addition to regular feats there are usually ones put into the game to help emulate certain aspects of the classes for the next level or 2. It works well despite a good amount of loud mouths who rail against limits in any game of Pathfinder and suggestions of "play sumfin' else if'n you be hatin' Pathfinder!"
I find that I love Pathfinder up to around 8-10th level, as do a lot of other people.
basically it's a good houserule if your group doesn't mind and enjoys the game.

I doubt the baby is dead, fans would hate it a lot, and there is already a lot of fan love/hate with main characters dying. Kirkman did say that there was “a lot of blood” in the baby carrier though, and keep in mind they can’t be too graphic with something like that, so it’s still possible she is gone.

Auxmaulous could be right about Lizzie and Carol. It makes perfect sense.

I saw the empty baby carrier and thought "whew, one of the wounded people grabbed up the kid...you can tell by the blood." I also said good no walkers around, if they got the baby they would have stuck around while feeding during the 2 or so minutes left in the fight and Rick would have came across them snackin'.

I could be totally wrong on all accounts there but the clues looked more positive to me than negative.

Also I love the idea of Bob being the rat-feeding rat. He has something darker in his past than just outlasting his groups and liking some drink.

I have a stat rolling option I would like to see tested out:
1 stat- 2d4+10
1 stat- 2d6+6
1 stat- 2d8+2
the three remaining at 3d6.

I would want the top three assigned to stats prior to rolling then roll everything in order and allowing the swapping of any 2 stats.

I was actually looking forward to seeing people being tossed into a lake with a bunch of walkers(people that got in the Gov's way) chained up below the surface by the Gov. Guess that ain't happening

Yes, but let's use some common sense: if you're shooting the axe musket, is the "overhand chop" feat really going to apply in this situation? So while it may be an odd corner case, things are still pretty clear.

Exactly, the musket-axe says "is used as both a musket and a battleaxe". The common sense part is that when you are shooting, your ranged feats apply. When you are chopping people, your melee feats apply. You don't chop with your bullets or shoot out the axe head at people or something ridiculous to mix melee and ranged. You would threaten in melee with it but I believe you still would be AoO'ed if you shot it while in melee (unless you got feats negating that).

So Longbow= ranged weapon. You need 2 hands to use it....now that gets a little odd though. I am actually only using the bow while I am firing it. So when it is not my turn I am only holding the bow, and my hand is free. I believe you can use that hand to threaten with armor spikes or some such....not sure if a FAQ ruled that out or not though.

Dammit! I asked a couple months ago on the boards about how to be able to start a character off at 1st level with the ability to have an undead minion and nobody mentioned this Archetype....this is frickin' perfect for the character I had in mind.

Also I agree with the thought that they linked to the wrong command undead ability.
Also I think that the magic jar thing is only for taking over an intelligent undead....although I don't see why it couldn't be for unintelligent ones too. I actually thought that all undead were soulless. I would treat the magic jar as containing the undead spark of the creature, whether intelligent or unintelligent, until the gravewalker releases control.

Gorbacz wrote:

leo1925 wrote:

Gorbacz you shouldn't be joking with such things, there are people who might take such a comment at face value.

My post wasn't a joke. Actually, I thought that your list of 563 house rules was a parody of the "here's my very short and concise list of house rules" posts...

Wasn't that "deciding that all those sneak attack D6s are soooo scary that you'll limit sneak attacks to one per round" part a joke?

Sneak attacks are never a joke......

joking...

If you are new I would avoid house rules. I find they are often used to fix problems that don't exist. If you play a whole game and found somerhing was an iasue then maybe look at them. If you do use them make sure to write them down. This does two things. One it makes it clear what the changes are and two it avoids the problem of people mistaking house rules for rules.

An example of a common house rule is stairs being rough terrain. However several groups I've playee with are not even aware its a house rule.

Yeah, I see that a lot. For clarity the rule is that stairs are normal movement rates up or down but you can't run on them and acrobatics DCs are 4 higher.

I guess Mom would yell if you ran on the stairs...

mkenner wrote:

I don't really understand why people are worried about wall of iron being used for crafting. It's a sixth level spell, you can charge an NPC a minimum of 660 GP for casting the spell. How is using it for a bunch of cheap low-grade iron unbalancing?

It was unbalancing in the past when you could smelt it down and cast it into weapon which you then sold. The material component cost was much less than the amount of money you could make by selling the items. It effectively allowed you to have an unlimited amount of wealth by casting the spell and crafting items out of it.

You know what would be great for the next edition?

A line at the beginning of the spells section saying "No items, objects, materials, etc created by spells can be sold for more than the material components and cost of casting the spell unless specifically stated in the spell's text."
I would like to see a quick list of rules like that for each section, common sense rules that are placed there just to prevent abuse.

I don't think there is a clear position from rules. I might allow it, but only with 5 to 10ft of the body of water. Otherwise I would say there is too much loss of momentum when switching from swimming to running/charging.

The rules actually are clear. The only foggy part is whether or not any area of merging is difficult terrain. It is not necessarily considered such per the rules, however difficult terrain is mostly left to the GM to determine or outlined within modules for play.

So basically if the GM determines that the 5-10 feet of area where water meets ground is difficult terrain, then it is. If the GM doesn't decide it is than it isn't. The definition of Difficult Terrain in the rules doesn't have many examples, and none that draw a comparison to this.

I personally would say that if some creature is adept enough in the 2 environments to have the same movement rate in each then it should be fine charging from one to the other.
Crocodile has a swim of 30 and a land movement of 20...not as adept across the land as in the water. Let's say the water leads out onto land with no bogginess or much of a slope or impediment. I couldn't see a Croc swimming 10', coming out onto land and going another 30' in a charge, yet, by the rules, it can. It doesn't happen in real life so it just seems weird in Pfinder.

If I was doing what the OP was trying to accomplish here I would rule that with some smelting/refining that added up to the basic cost of raw iron when the added cost of the spell is added in (whatever a npc caster would charge for the spell), you could use the iron wall to make actual iron.
Same cost as iron more or less. Balance is preserved. Iron-deficient regions can have an iron source if the casters are there to provide services.
This is all the realm of GM rulings but I don't see why you couldn't rule that this works. Heck I could even see a whole cultural thing where people who can cast these spells hold positions of honor and esteem in the community and wield great influence in the area.

If the creature has both movements then neither would be a rough terrain for the creature, it can charge, although I don't know that any ruling/rule specifically says you can. There is no impediment for a creature with both a land and water speed from either so I can't imagine why there would be a problem for it.

Start a new game at 1st level? Honestly I would never be able to enjoy that kind of game...too much intricate stuff to be able to feel like I know my PC's abilities and such. Sorry, no advice.

Craft DC for a 2,500gp raw diamond to add 2d4X 500gp in value is 25 (for a maximum value of 5,000gp), that is the highest value I have found with a DC and the value is fluctuating.
Link to gem values...

I really think that making a gemstone with a 25,000gp value would be much higher than the one with a max value of 5k.....maybe a DC 35?

Fake Healer wrote:

Seraphimpunk wrote:

i don't see a problem, as long as you're converting 500gp of diamond dust, into a 500gp diamond.

the quality of the product in Fabricate is not guaranteed.

This. the spell doesn't somehow make 500gp of diamond dust into a 25,000gp diamond. If a GM ruled that it did then he screwed his own game. You want a 25,000gp diamond...you need 25,000gp of diamond dust or a 25,000gp rough diamond. I wouldn't allow make whole to work unless all the diamond dust came from the same diamond before it was crushed. Make whole won't take a bunch of wood and make a chair. It takes a broken chair and makes it whole again. Same with mending, it fixes one item, it doesn't make a whole item out of materials unless all the material came from the one finished and broken product. Can't take a bunch of metal shavings and make a dagger. You can take rusted and broken dagger and make it into it's original form of a dagger.

Crafting an item requires 1/3 of the item's value in raw materials. Fabricate does crafting. You can indeed take a bunch of metal shavings and make a dagger.

If you take a bunch of metal worth 500gp and made something that used all of it, then you'd have something worth 1500gp (which would sell for 750gp).

Note how I said Mending and Make Whole wouldn't let you take raw materials and make something out of them and not that Fabricate wouldn't....

BUT- cool so using 1/3 of 25,000gp in raw materials and Fabricate you can make a good 25,000gp diamond....if you have a ton of craft skill. I don't see any equivilant on the skills table for a dc so I don't know what I would set it at but maybe 15 +1 per 1,000gp in price is where I would go with setting the DC. There shouldn't be many people capable of making a diamond of that high quality unless they have been training all their lives in the craft.

Aelryinth wrote:

As for converting 25k in d dust to 25k in diamonds, the only way to do it is sell the 25k in d dust for 12.5k, buy an 8.3k raw diamond of the right quality, and cut it into a 25k diamond with the appropriate crafting check. Fabricate is about the only way to actually do this in any decent time period, but 8.3k hunks of raw diamond aren't going to be any more common then the 25k results of them.

do you not treat diamond dust like a commodity in your game? I treat it like gold/diamonds/etc.

its a valuable commodity on its own, and can be used in trade, without selling it for half price.

the nice thing about the Fabricate diamond is that if you did want it in some funky shape, you can just take a Craft check at it , and take dust from several colored diamonds, and make some cool multicolored diamond out of it. =D

Masterwork Diamond Sword of Rainbows ready for enchanting anyone? I'd allow it.

i don't see a problem, as long as you're converting 500gp of diamond dust, into a 500gp diamond.

the quality of the product in Fabricate is not guaranteed.

This. the spell doesn't somehow make 500gp of diamond dust into a 25,000gp diamond. If a GM ruled that it did then he screwed his own game. You want a 25,000gp diamond...you need 25,000gp of diamond dust or a 25,000gp rough diamond. I wouldn't allow make whole to work unless all the diamond dust came from the same diamond before it was crushed. Make whole won't take a bunch of wood and make a chair. It takes a broken chair and makes it whole again. Same with mending, it fixes one item, it doesn't make a whole item out of materials unless all the material came from the one finished and broken product. Can't take a bunch of metal shavings and make a dagger. You can take rusted and broken dagger and make it into it's original form of a dagger.

PC-1: Human Barbarian
str-11 (+2) 13
dex-9
con-15
int-7
wis-12
cha-13
8 pt buy
hp-14, ac-15
feats-power attack, extra rage
weapons/armor- longbow, greataxe, hide armor
(not a bad barb when raging..)

PC-2:Half-orc sorcerer
str-7
dex-12 (+2) 14
con-13
int-13
wis-7
cha-16
10 pt buy
hp-7, ac-16 (with mage armor)
feats-combat casting
weapons/armor- greataxe, scrolls
(decent stats, make him a blaster)

PC-3: Half-orc rogue
str-11
dex-13 (+2) 15
con-10
int-11
wis-7
cha-12
4 pt buy
hp-8, ac-15
feats-Point blank shot
weapons/armor- short bow, falchion, studded leather
(not too awful, decent face to the party and got some fair combat skills)

PC-4: Human cleric
str-10
dex-13
con-14
int-9
wis-13 (+2) 15
cha-9
9 pt buy
hp-10, ac-16
feats-extra channel, dodge
weapons/armor- sling, heavy mace, scale mail, Lt shield
(decent spell casting, decent hp and ac, a fighting cleric)

Another decent group if played well....

If I was doing a game like this I would make the minimum point buy be something like 6 and have a floating maximum of 10.....by floating maximum I mean that if someone rolled up a 16 pt buy, he is 6 pts over 10. everyone below 10 pt buy would get to add 6 pts to their builds. That way even though they have less points than Mr. Highroller, they have greater control over some of their build to compensate for that with the additional 6 pts. In theory it should work out well barring the extreme cases.

Pretty darn Gimpy. Human, Half Orc, or Half Elf (+2 to strength), and maybe a fighter or barbarian. Albeit a pretty crappy one.

There used to be a rule that a PC without a positive ability bonus sum was unplayable and you would reroll. I think this guy falls into that court.

I would play that 1pt buy barbarian, and the GM should be cognizant of the fact that the players in that group are lower-powered and maybe adjust some encounters for the first level or so until they get more hp and equipment. I also didn't add in favored class points but for 1 pt buy dude I think I would pick HPs...;P

I like looking at these types of PCs and playing lesser powered PCs. It reminds me of when I first started playing. I have been growing tired of hearing people talk about the necessity of having a 20 in your primary ability at first level and watching them only take the race that pumps those primary stats. I hardly ever see someone take a race to shore up the lower stats that they have to make the PC more balanced, or, God forbid, for the flavor of the PC. I have always felt that if the PC has a 15 in his primary stat he should be fine, lower does make it harder but in general that is good enough that by the time he needs access to higher level spells, he should have pumped it up with 4th level ability bonus and some magic items when available....

PC 1- cleric, Dwarf
str-13
dex-8
con-11+2 (13)
int-10
wis-13+2 (15)
cha-11-2 (9)
6 pt buy
hp-9, ac-15
feats-extra channel
weapons/armor- sling, battle axe, war hammer, scale mail, Lt shield

PC 2- rogue, elven
str-11
dex-14+2 (16)
con-14-2 (12)
int-9+2 (11)
wis-11
cha-12
13 pt buy
hp-9, ac-16
Feats-Improved initiative
Weapons/armor- Longbow, longsword, studded leather

PC 3- Barbarian, half-orc
str-12+2 (14)
dex-10
con-13
int-7
wis-12
cha-8
1 pt buy
hp-13, ac-15
Feats-Power attack
Weapons/armor- great axe, sling, hide armor, buckler

PC 4- Sorcerer, halfling
Str-9-2 (7)
dex-10+2 (12)
con-9
int-11
wis-10
cha-15+2 (17)
6 pt buy
hp-5, ac-15 (+4 mage armor)
feats-Combat casting
Weapons/armor- dagger, as many scrolls as possible.

All in all a horrible point buy average but I see a decent party if the GM isn't out for blood. Some challenges for sure but they aren't insurmountable and if played well can be fairly cool.
The barb is fair, the cleric can frontline just about as well and has decent casting stat. The sorcerer is weak physically but has a darn nice casting stat, and the rogue hits the required marks with some weaknesses....I wouldn't feel bad playing this group in any parts.

Have you thought about adding different types of masterwork to achieve some of this? Perhaps instead of just masterwork you have some of the things you named can take the place of masterwork and add some stuff like:

Razor-edged, masterwork: weapon does +1 damage and adds a +1 to confirm crits.
Well-balanced, masterwork: weapon gains a +1 to attack rolls (standard masterwork).
Serrated, masterwork: slashing weapons only. This weapon inflicts bleed damage with a confirmed crit. (seems a bit powerful, maybe the bleed is equal to the weapon's crit modifier?)
Sturdy, masterwork: this weapon is of a thicker, heavier construction than normal. Add 2 to the weapon's hardness and 10 to it's hit points. Weapons with this quality are %50 heavier than normal weapons.

I can see a lot of variances for this stuff...but the key is keeping it all equally balanced.

I really like the options but maybe cost is a way to make some options different. That and maybe the various options can stack with magical bonuses.

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Have you thought about adding different types of masterwork to achieve some of this? Perhaps instead of just masterwork you have some of the things you named can take the place of masterwork and add some stuff like:
Razor-edged, masterwork: weapon does +1 damage and adds a +1 to confirm crits.
Well-balanced, masterwork: weapon gains a +1 to attack rolls (standard masterwork).
Serrated, masterwork: slashing weapons only. This weapon inflicts bleed damage with a confirmed crit.
Sturdy, masterwork: this weapon is of a thicker, heavier construction than normal. Add 2 to the weapon's hardness and 10 to it's hit points. Weapons with this quality are %50 heavier than normal weapons.

I can see a lot of variances for this stuff...but the key is keeping it all equally balanced.

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Now to be fair...if you pull out a vial and drink it and intend to save the vial as opposed to just tossing it, there should probably be an action to stow it or you toss it down and risk it being destroyed a certain percentage of the time. They don't just magically disappear when you drink them and re-show up in your safe bag.

Building off of a "noble-orc" race would be key: no mental stat penalties, long life span, natural armor, powerful build, a race with more than 10 RP, but less than 20.

As far as class levels go, there is loads of room for argument.

I like this. For class I personally would look at a ranger archetype Beast Master. Mounted Fury barbarian is also a neat concept.

Umbriere Moonwhisper wrote:

why all these bans when the core rulebook holds the 3 most broken classes in the entire game?

the Wizard? the Cleric? and the Druid?

This. Banning every other book certainly isn't going to stop a player with solid system mastery from snapping your campaign in half if he/she wants to.

DMs and players need to maintain a certain level of respect for the game and approach disruptive or overpowered spell/feat/build choices in a mature fashion. It would be a shame to neglect all of the wonderful book paizo has made on the faulty assumption that 'All the stuff outside of the core is more prone to disrupting game balance'.

Also, sometimes it is important to realize balance swings in both directions and having additional options can lead to parties where everyone feels effective and valued in any role they choose.

For instance, I want to create a spellsword character but if I use only the core material, my character will fall behind the rest of the party in effectiveness and that may hamper my enjoyment of the game. However, allowing Ultimate Magic has now enabled me to play the Magus -- a class that embodies my concept perfectly and still keeps up with most classes in the game.

I agree. I play in a few rotating games all with different limits on books from Core+APG to everything. I see core-only builds that are just as game straining as ones that use a bunch of books.

I personally only have a few things that have shown as truly problematic....meta-magic rod of stunning and gunslinger after level 12-14. I am sure there are more but a group of friends shouldn't be brow-beating their buddies with horribly asinine builds.
I am more likely to limit Races due to the game feel, and I feel that I would set more limitations on the creation process like limiting point buy or rolls rather than banning much outright.

Sounds like a Dark Sun type of question. Wood has a listed hardness and hps, as does metal, so if you compare the 2 materials you can find out how tough a weapon is...now for damage I can only think of one thing for that: stone age weapons. Almost all stone age weapons in the table have the fragile quality.
Wood has hardness of 5 and 10 hp per inch thick.
Iron and steel has hardness 10 and 30 hp per inch... so wood weapons should have half the hardness of their metal counterparts and 1/3 of the hps.
As for the actual damage that they do...it seems like (to me anyway) stone age weapons tend to do 1 damage die step down from their counterparts unless you look at the terbutje which uses bits of shark teeth, obsidian and other sharp objects along the blade edge and suddenly makes the stick into the equivalent of a steel longsword except for the fragile quality.
My thought would be to either lower the damage die by one step or impose a -1 to damage. There really shouldn't be an adjustment on the to-hit rolls, just damage output due to less mass and such.

Interesting table...does the GM sit where the woman is sitting in the pic? In that corner area...if so I can see him having a bit more range to engage with the whole board and such...
I like the idea of it and the execution. My group's table is just 2 of the plastic folding tables from rubbermaid (7 feet long or so 2-1/2 feet wide each for a total of 5 feet wide) that we C-clamped together then we built a 3ft x 4ft raised section that is roughly 6" higher than the table, for the map area. It gives around a foot to 18 inches of space around the outside of the raised area for books and such and the underneath is good for storage (although we get kinda messy with it). It works out decently although if I was building from scratch I would lower the actual table's height by 2-3 inches and use labeled storage bins to hold minis and terrain underneath the raised section. I don't have any pics to post but it is fairly basic.
I am toying with the idea of an elogated octagonal design but I am unsure how well it would work out for certain seats. Too many ideas, not enough time, room, money, drive, etc....

done. hope it helps.

any suggestions for miniatures? What are you using for dwarven machines, etc

Mageknight figures work well if you take them off their bases and re-base them...they have a lot of golems, clockworks, and mecha like robots that have a steam-punkish look and would work really well for the dwarven bots.

Steam Golem
Another one...not sure the name.
Brass golem

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In my game the fighter users a different method. He carries a tower shield (really, a Pavise) and a throwing spear.

First round he chucks the spear and places the shield in the proper tactical location.

Second round he draws his greatsword and joins melee. Then a squishy caster takes cover behind the shield. This is extremely helpful and very effective.

I like that...I need to add that into my games...

What about tower shield proficiency?

"Tower Shield Proficiency (Combat)
You are trained in how to properly use a tower shield.

Prerequisite: Shield Proficiency.

Benefit: When you use a tower shield, the shield's armor check penalty only applies to Strength and Dexterity-based skills.

Normal: A character using a shield with which he is not proficient takes the shield's armor check penalty on attack rolls and on all skill checks that involve moving, including Ride.

Special: Fighters automatically have Tower Shield Proficiency as a bonus feat. They need not select it."

Works for me.

Tower shield still imposes a -2 to attacks beyond the non-proficiency ACPenalty to attacks. That -2 is what he is trying to nullify.

There is a feat chain that counters the -2 to attacks.....weapon focus and greater weapon focus.

My party is now 18th level and I still love this game.
The story is pretty cool and has me wanting to find out how things are going for my computer "gm" and the girl, and I find the quests to be well done and interesting re-takes and reimaginings of some classic D&D adventures with some really good twists to them. The combat is very tactics oriented and satisfying while being challenging. I am thoroughly enjoying this game....still totally for free!

I found some silicone molds for making custom cake decor from Wiltons (got it at JoAnnes fabric) and I just roll sculpey clay into the molds, pop them out, cut them to size and bake. They make a sheet about 3/16" thick and way bigger than I need them to be. The pack I picked up had a wood plank pattern and a rough stone pattern.

You can view them here: Stone and Plank molds....$7.99 for both
They also have a Grass and Brick set of molds.
Haven't picked up the second ones yet but I will soon. Nice way to make huge bases, or any size really, but I really like using them for Huge and bigger minis.

Not familiar with the Spelljammer races...anyone want to shoot me a short description of some of them so I can see how they roll before going in depth with research?

so anyone have any experience with the multiplayer part of the game? i'd love to hear a story or 3...

I also like that you can go through the adventures over again for extra XP and loot...it helps me to gather more variety of items and make the party more diverse.

Ched Greyfell wrote:

Yes, sneak attack is the rogue's main source of damage. However, the damage being predicated on flanking and flat-footedness is what balances out the damage. Because it's a LOT of damage. If a rogue got that all the time, every time, it would be insane. It requires him to strategize, optimize feats, think, and work with his teammates. The rogue in Pathfinder is far & above what it was in previous editions of the game. Any problems stem from player-imposed roles or conceptions/misconceptions. The game isn't the rules. The game is a player-driven story, the rules are just a facilitator. I love rogues. They are great. Don't need "fixing". They already were fixed when they carried over from 3.5 to now.

The rogue is fine and a great class for the lower levels. After level 12 a couple things happen.

1) The rogue to hit suffers. In PF the AC of higher CR encounter is anywhere from 0-5 AC greater depending on the encounter. So the AC went up but the rogue has no way to increase their to hit bonus and other ways to reduce it like TWF which makes this problem even worse.

2) Skills is the next thing. By level 12 the rest of the party can cover skills with their own skills, class feature and spells. The skill monkey class in no longer needed. All that is left for the rogue is traps and I find by high level traps tend to be become trivial and therefore are not used.

5) It's around level 12 that you max out you AC for the most part. No shield and light armor only. That only gets you so far. So in combat you are once maybe twice with sneak attack but you are taking hits when the enemy misses only a 1. Having less hit points you take beating. The fix for this is to get a cloak of displacement, minor then major when you can afford it. So steal lots to get that ASAP.

4) Saves start to really hurt at the high level. The main reason for this is the feats on give you +2. You don't have cloak of resistance because you got the cloak of displacement. You can compensate...

You could also have your Cloak of displacement enchanted with Resistance. It just increases the cost a bit.

After level 12 the whole game starts falling apart really so fixing one class will lead to "now lets fix the fighter....next up monk....after that bard....then we can look at...". IMO if the rogue is fine until 12th then he is fine. I don't blame the classes when the game is the fault.

@Holmes, as you gain levels you unlock more slots for items so the problem begins going away. I am 8th level with my party and I have roughly twice the amounts of items that are usable, racial skill items, extra weapons, helm for the fighter, shield for the cleric, class skill items....it is pretty cool and flexible. I still find I sometimes overload a certain type of item (movement usually) and need to adjust. Items also have good variety of abilities...pick up a spiked shield and you get block cards and attack cards...same with spiked armor.
It really does have some depth.

@sebastrd- I was checking out how to buy extra pizza slices (in game currency for the non-players reading this) and they have a "Basic Set" package that unlocks all of the 11 bonus campaigns, give you 9 new figures to use as PCs and sets you up with 100 pizza slices....all for $25. I am probably going to do this eventually as I feel like the value and fun is worth it, at minimum.
I am very happy with this game and wish more game makers would follow suit here.

Fake Healer, you sonofa ... yeah, I'm hooked. ;)

Great game and I can see many hours of burned time in front of the PC ... very 1e feel for the visuals. :)

Nice! I have to make others into addicts. The more the merrier!!!