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Crystal Frasier wrote:
Esquizo wrote:

Hi Crystal i have some questions about Barzillai Thrune , the best bad guy created by paizo .

what exactly Barzillai thrune did to her younger sister that made her runaway from her family?

Why Barzillai was so obsessed with her sister ?

I have no idea. He's not my character by any stretch.

really? I was thinking that was your creation :D . So who IS the responsable of create such amazing villian ?


Hi Crystal i have some questions about Barzillai Thrune , the best bad guy created by paizo .

what exactly Barzillai thrune did to her younger sister that made her runaway from her family?

Why Barzillai was so obsessed with her sister ?


Hi James :D . I have some questions about Shensen and Our favorite succubus Arushalae

1. Is Shensen interested in romantics relationships with the PC in Hells Rebels Campaing ? is she bisexual? What is exactly her realtionship with the aquatic elfs in the campaing?

2.what kind of mother you think a redemmed Arushalae will with her childrens and how you think she will take care of them?

Thanks for your attention James. Im working with somes ideas for a possible campaing


She is jus kinda bored of having to much enemies. If she goes aways other gods will let her be.


it depends. we did it in a week


mmmm ANY ideas for a post mythic campaing to kill the crimson Son of Asmodeus


i GOT to say ... I LOVE that sexy contract devil . My party gave him/her A pet name. and eny moment they speak about him/her the say Oxddy the sexy devil .


Well spoilers. Hell vengance last part is in ... Westcrown . Of course you can exchange kinthargo for westcrown but then again hell vengance happens in the same timeline simultaniously


Somebody here have done the side quest of post campaing of destroying the Soul Anchor . Im planning to run it with mythic


My players did not like the idea of an vigilante actually. One of my player is a Hellkngiht with paladin levels. And we got a Bard


I will run this in the middle of part 5 the kinthargo contract. I made so modification to the module for my costume HR campaing


Crystal Frasier wrote:
ErisAcolyte-Chaos jester wrote:
Also we totally have a reason for why we cannot just fight the big bad at early levels. He* has an army with him and is probably a badass. That and your a low level Adventurer being attacked by a very old dragon. In short, you know who this bastard is, You want to kill him, but cannot, and the only thing you can do is save what you can and run. After you are safe, then you can start forming a plan to make this general Azaersi pay for stepping on your town... And probably others, but mostly your town.
She. She has an army. :)

WAIT WHAT ? That is .... JUST AWESOME 8D!!!! An Female Hobgoblin Commander. I am curious how she looks like


What happened with Paralictor Chard ? In CoT AP his aligment was LN . Here he IS evil . Something in special mede his aligment to change or it just An adaptation for de adventure ?


Thanx guys , i my campaing He is an important NPC . I Will use An NPC stats from npc codex for him


So , mephisto Will get his stats done in Bestiary 6? Well my party Will need to wait if they want to kill him


I want to ask something , where are chuko's stats , i cant find them


Yes , my group did some ... Downtime


Go with dwarft hardy , steelsoul , +big game hunter feats are your best friends . Good marital class for this campiang are ranger , swichter with archery style , inquisitors and paladins ,.both classes have good saves and defenses vs spellcasters . And take a wizard with you . There are tons of spell book hey will enjoy . So this is sort of an optimized party . Ranger /inquisitor (dwarft)
Paladin ( one of the most powerfull marital in the game)
WIZAAAAARD ( you Will need it) or magus


Brother Fen wrote:
I'll offer up prayers and sacrifices for your GM. It sounds like she is going to need it. Your every comment in this thread is extremely negative. Try having fun with it.

agree . Poor dm . Enyways i linked the necromancer archetype for the spiritulist .dude a real undead companion.totally playing it in Hell's vengance. I love with the inquisitor bible dude .for the feats ... Most for dms use but i like the new story feats . Taking it for carrion crown campaing . Btw loved Also the tortured paladin ;)


Go with the tiger . Pounce,rake, grab and extra dex to your party is amazing . And consider planar wild shape feat for free smite evil ,some DR and elemetals resistance. It just pure metal being a celestial/fiendish tigre singing hardcore rock'n roll while smiting and grabbing your enemies ;)


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Adventure path and tons of options


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I know some Black fire adept that will thank you alot for this mini guide. Xanthir Vang approve :D


Thurston Hillman wrote:
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Yhean ... One thing is try to redeem someone but let a group of souless bastards to kill all your Friends ? Well poor Oppian ,i kind felt bad when i was reading the letter he made saying he deserve to die.
... but you killed him anyways, right? :)

not me but i'm sure that my players Will do it ... And they Will have alot of fun with it . Just for curiosity HIllman , Does the female archon has some romantics feelings for Oppian?


James Jacobs wrote:
Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Esquizo wrote:
Hi James , i have a question , in the Queen Galfrey's stat block that is in WotR , she has leadership feat but it is not mention her cohort or who is. Does she has an special cohort or something like that ?
Not sure off the top of my head; she mostly has Leadership becasue of flavor reasons. Her cohort is likely serving her by dealing with a situation elsewhere in the war effort; feel free to make that cohort up to whatever you want. My suggestion would be a cleric of Iomedae.
Wouldn't a WarPriest, perhaps with the Divine Commander archetyp, be more appropriate, as someone to more likely to lead in the field?

I prefer clerics, and think that warpriests are too powerful and too complicated to foist off on a GM to run as a secondary minor character like a cohort.

Feel free to make your own choices for your game though.

agree with james there , it was easier for me to use a generic cleric statblock . I just made some minor changes , like the race ( Aasimar) and domains Law/good. In my game Opaline helped them with healing. But yhea a warprist would be more flavor


Yhean ... One thing is try to redeem someone but let a group of souless bastards to kill all your Friends ? Well poor Oppian ,i kind felt bad when i was reading the letter he made saying he deserve to die.


Well , we got the antipaladins of eny alagment now ;)


Hi guys , good job with this , it is likely that i Will runs this AP with some friends . I have a question , why Oppian , A honorable and honest man Will have feelings for someone like Loredana , he can detect her aligment or investigate her to notice that she has no love for iomedaeans. Also the rest of his group have more likely decent persons to start a relationship , why he has a crush with her?

Also , i notice that the legion archon is kinda protective with him , so there is a posibility that the archon has strongs feelings for Oppian?


James Jacobs wrote:
Esquizo wrote:
Hi James , i have a question , in the Queen Galfrey's stat block that is in WotR , she has leadership feat but it is not mention her cohort or who is. Does she has an special cohort or something like that ?
Not sure off the top of my head; she mostly has Leadership becasue of flavor reasons. Her cohort is likely serving her by dealing with a situation elsewhere in the war effort; feel free to make that cohort up to whatever you want. My suggestion would be a cleric of Iomedae.

thanks you james , that IS what i wanted to hear, i group already finished WotR , i my game . i gave her the Aasimar advisor that is mention in blood of angels book , named Opaline , and i made her a cleric. I just wanted to know if she had an specific cohort but could not make it in the final book realease


Hells rebels , iron gods , wrath of the righteous ;D


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Trojan Flumph wrote:
Paladin with the Silver Champion archetype... Drakes are just beyond awful!

not as bad as empyrial knight archetype


Hi James , i have a question , in the Queen Galfrey's stat block that is in WotR , she has leadership feat but it is not mention her cohort or who is. Does she has an special cohort or something like that ?


Michael Talley 759 wrote:

Started the adventure last night officially.

Group Consists of -

2)- Tengu Cleric of The Mother of Monsters (and also almost died in the first minute of the game with the opening gambit of Channeling Negative Energy after being hit by the Thugs, did not make many friends starting off

and this is my Group right now. All some varient of Chaotic.... one CE that likely is not long for this world

i have a question , what are the real reason for a tengu Cleric CE with helping a rebelión ? I hope the player is not tyring to create His own monster


My party is now in menador gap. It os funny how half of the Lawfull party is always trying to look for "legal" ways to resolve their problems . The Bard and Gunslinger are more like , just kill them , they are thrunies xD


Kroc sarini "The reborn" half orc LG paladín reedemer of abadar 7/hellknight order of the torrent 2
Fabriz "The cruel axe" teafling LN inquisitor of the impyreal lords 7/hellknight signifire order of the torrent 2
Gacomo Alessi half elf CG Bard chelish diva of milani 7/evangelist 2
Anitxia swiftwave aquatic elf CN gunslinger bolt ace of gozreh 9

Thier cohorts are Nacho , reedemed ogrekin fighter , loyal to krock and Hetamon Haace loyal to Gacomo .Execcutor River raven animal companion of Fabriz


my party was really lucky , our tiefling inquisitor gave her a nasty critical x3 with her great axe and rolled almost max damage in the first round and the paladin smite her so she had to run away in the secund round :)


exactly what was the intention of giving mythic in this campaing? kill Mephistofeles


Hello James, i have something to ask you, my gaming group is almost finishing my WotR campaing. One of my player asked me something about one of the NPC from the ivory laberinth (my players killed Baphy, so his realm was taken by the abyss and other demon lords are traing to get what survived.) what excactly gonna happen to the mythic vezzcavor swarm VERBOVEZZOR, He somehow knew that the PC have real chances to kill Baphy, so he had some plans to take the ivory laberinth? He can come back as an ally to give some info to the pc about deskari´s plans? from where Verbovezzor come exactly ?


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Crystal Frasier wrote:
Esquizo wrote:

Hello Crystal. I running the fantastic Hell rebels campaing (amazing story btw , one of the best campaing out there) I have some problems making one of my players to hate barzillai or his organization , i made Barzillai to kill 4 members of the hellknight order of the torrent in the public park of kinthargo and he burtally killed 2 inocents tieflings by letting his dogs ''to have some fun with them'' But my friend (he is playing a paladin of abadar) said that they were crimminals and the justice was made not in the best way but it is justice after all.

In fact, my friend said that he consider Barzillai Thrune like a national tragic hero that is making alot of mistakes.
My questing is How can i make my player change his maind about Barzillai thrune ?

This kind of sounds like a problem on a player level more than a character level, and you might want to ask this player (one-on-one, away from the table) why he's trying so hard to make excuses for the campaign villain. Maybe he has a character arc in mind for his paladin, setting him up to feel personally betrayed (or he might just be a contrarian).

From the perspective of a paladin, torture is never okay, and Barzillai leans more heavily on torture than even the average Thrune (especially without any legal conviction). He's also an illegitimate ruler according to the city charter, making his a tyrant who ignores the legal due process of the city, and any lawful-leaning character (as any paladin of Abadar would be) should be bothered by that. He eagerly associates with evil (summoning devils, binding devils to his servants, ect), and is demonstrably evil himself. A paladin can see him as a tragic figure but still realize he needs to be stopped from harming others.

From an Abadaran perspective, he's imposing unhealthy and unfair economic conditions, and using state power to manipulate the local economy. He's placing restrictions on what people and sell and who can buy/sell it. He's placing restrictions on merchants...

Thanks alot for the advice crystal , i spoke with him about it and he toldme that his paladin is a dork and that he was Roleplaying the cannon Lawfull idiot for fun , he dais that his paladin it so traumatized with the violents actions of the goverment in kinthargo that the poor paladin cant beleave it . Next sesión he is plaining to have a breaking point for his pali ;)


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Hello Crystal. I running the fantastic Hell rebels campaing (amazing story btw , one of the best campaing out there) I have some problems making one of my players to hate barzillai or his organization , i made Barzillai to kill 4 members of the hellknight order of the torrent in the public park of kinthargo and he burtally killed 2 inocents tieflings by letting his dogs ''to have some fun with them'' But my friend (he is playing a paladin of abadar) said that they were crimminals and the justice was made not in the best way but it is justice after all.

In fact, my friend said that he consider Barzillai Thrune like a national tragic hero that is making alot of mistakes.
My questing is How can i make my player change his maind about Barzillai thrune ?


Sissyl wrote:
kyrt-ryder wrote:
In my opinion, the only reason to invest in leadership is to gain a cohort over whose build you have control. Npcs are a dime a dozen if you pay or roleplay for their aid.
Leadership gets you someone loyal, who will stick with you even if the other guys give them a better offer. Someone who will fight and risk death, even against very poor odds, for you.

Well in my WoTR campaing,i let my herophant player to have hands of inheritor as cohort ... they are doing well. Of course i made alot of changes with the encounters of City of locust.


I have to say council of thieves is good for new people. It is low level so. It will be easiear to handle it for DM and players


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Just for pure curiosity who created Arushalae for the WotR


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Thanks JJ ;D i will tell my friend about it . He will be happy . I have some plans about arushalae's childrens , in a futuro campaing .i will speak with my players if they want to create a new creature or even a new race ;D . My gaming group helped me out with things like this always .


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Thanks alot . I have a copy of demons revised an Im checking out the rules . I have 2 other questions Now .
1.since arushalae is a redeem sucubus Her childrens will get her redeem modifications and Her spell-like abilities inset of the standard half-succubus templete and Will have no aligment restrictions ?

2. The oracle asimar is the herophant of my group so he is Iomedae's child . Is she and the church ok with the fact of having Half-fiends grandchildrens around even they are no evil? Iomedae is the godess of fiend-killing and honor, the idea of she having half fiend grandchildrens Will sounds just crazy to the church?

My player have been asking alot of questions about the subject and i'm not sure What to tell him. He is doing an amzing job with his Roleplay and most npc loves his PC . He just wants to take the real consecuenses of his actions .


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Hello James ,i have a question to ask about the childrens of demons with mortals . I"m running the amazing wrath of the righteous campaing and one of my players (he is doing pritty well with his asimar oracle of battle ) married his PC with the redeem succubus arushalae and he ask me if he can have childrens with Her . My question is What kind/race/creature/ can born from the union of an asimar and an redeem demon?


We were lucky . We did not kill her in the first book and now she is my cohort . I made her cleric ;) pritty awesome


Halfling rouge scoute , one level monk dip. i think that will work


Lunge+ cleave and greater cleave?


Magda Luckbender wrote:


Considering that your party is heavy on martials, Bard buffs would be incredibly helpful to the whole party. You're a Cleric, so [b]

Bard with flagbearer feat and moment of greatness spell can do crazy buffs around. i like evangelist idea. Really nobody cares about buffs in a woTR party :(


Hey why not a master of many style with serpent style ,Snake Fang and dragon style. your AC is with your sense motive (skill focus to have more) and Combat Reflexes.

every time you fail an attack roll against the monk he will hit you with more than 3 times with dragon style .