cannon fodder |
And major Kudos to Paizo for throwing them a bone! har har har.
Bad puns aside, it's really awesome to see gaming companies supporting each other like this, and building off each other's successes. Tabletop rpg's, to me, are in essence meant to bring people together. That gaming companies can show the same solidarity only strengthens my love for the game.
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Eric Mason 37 |
I recently got some bones models, and here's my experience:
1 - You don't need to prime the model. My paint went on fine, I just had to be sure the initial base colours weren't too watery. I have yet to put dullcote on one yet, but I anticipate no problems with that either.
2 - Cleaning up mould lines has to be done with a hobby knife rather than a file. The material is flexible enough that it resists filing.
3 - Green stuff works as well, so if you're into converting, feel free.
4 - Super glue is what you want for attaching the model to a base.
In general, painting is not a difficult thing. Being careful, and fixing mistakes gets you a better result than most pre-painted IMO. Taking the time to give your model some depth with a wash, and/or some highlights pays off in spades.
Practice is highly valuable, as is knowing when to stop. I can produce amazing 14 hour paint jobs, but I can get results I'm happy with in less than an hour. :)
Eric
Steel_Wind |
I have to admit, when this whole thing first began, I was philosophically opposed to the whole idea when looked at from a raising capital standpoint. Sorry -- but I just was.
HOWEVER, as time has wore on, this deal has got to be SO GOOD I just can't pass this up nor expect any other gamer to do so. Indeed, I'm at the point now where this could get entirely NEW people into the hobby as this is about as close to awesome a deal on minis as one is going to be able to find anywhere, anytime, any place.
I think there is a good chance that this deal will be so attractive that people who have never painted minis but have always been interested a little --- or who used to but have stopped for one reason or another (lapsed painters) will decide to jump back in. To paraphrase the Joker -- all they need is a little push.
It would be highly ironic that a Kickstarter initially aimed at core customers could prove to be so successdul that it becomes the greatest marketing / new customer outreach that the company has ever had.
Because right now? Looks to me like it just might be.
Robert Hawkshaw |
These look great! But I have no idea how to paint mini's. How does it differ from metal to plastic?
The only difference is that you do not need to prime these minis (most miniatures need a coat of primer to help acrylic paint stick). Just do your basecoat without thinning the paint with water (water beads on pvc).
If you head down to the miniatures subforum there are lots of folks who have experience painting and links to tutorials etc... It doesn't take much skill to get a paint job that looks better than the wotc prepaints. Pick 3 or 4 colours, base coat, wash, dry brush.
http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/community/gaming/minis
This has been blogged and tweeted, will it be going out by email as well like the Steve Jackson announcement?
Robert Hawkshaw |
So... any chance for Reaper Pathfinder minis to find their way into Reaper's Legendary Encounters pre-painted plastics line?
Watching the Bones Kickstarter from afar is killin' me. It's a screaming deal, but there aren't enough hours in the day for me to start painting minis.
They use the same steel molds, so there shouldn't be any technical problems. There might be understandable licensing issues with regard to Wizkids.
Tinalles |
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I seriously thought about the $100 level, because the price per mini for that is amazingly low. But ... I don't paint. I don't WANT to paint. In fact, I absolutely REFUSE to paint. I already spend too much time on game prep as it is.
So I pledged at the $15 level to get a batch of generic goblins, kobolds, and rats. Nobody cares whether your rats are painted or not. Maybe they're albino anyway.
Caineach |
These look great! But I have no idea how to paint mini's. How does it differ from metal to plastic?
These minis are some of the least expensive you will find to practice on, and they are better quality than what you will likely find at a similar price point elsewhere.
Plastic and metal paints very similarly. A beginner probably wont notice much difference. Personally, I liked metal minis more in the past when I was primarily playing RPGs, but have recently come to favor plastics for wargaming. The newer plastics can get high detail that used to be exclusive to metal.
There are lots of guides for painting here and elsewhere. If you need paints, the Reaper ones in the kickstarter are fairly good quality.
Lisa Stevens CEO |
WampaX |
I seriously thought about the $100 level, because the price per mini for that is amazingly low. But ... I don't paint. I don't WANT to paint. In fact, I absolutely REFUSE to paint. I already spend too much time on game prep as it is.
So I pledged at the $15 level to get a batch of generic goblins, kobolds, and rats. Nobody cares whether your rats are painted or not. Maybe they're albino anyway.
Skeletons are pretty easy too.
Straight from the acid bath, they are.brad2411 |
I have been watching this kickstarter everyday and i have been very happy as they hit a new stretch goal every day and today it seems they are about to hit a second. If this continues even just at the speed it has been for the past week they should hit over $800000 which should give us at a good amount more minis YAY! Some of the add on minis, like the dragons and WAR's dragon, look great to.
Teazia |
The deal is so fantastic and it is getting better and better by the day (and now half day). If you will add to your pledge when x item is officially available, you might as well raise your contribution now (so that it happens faster). Since we have limited time, this will open more stuff sooner, ie more options and more freebies. You can always reduce your pledge at a later stage if need be (at least before the KS ends).
More velocity= more stuff= more new folks= more velocity= more stuff= more new folks= more velocity= rinse and repeat until the end which will be a glorious orgy of minis. The more velocity we have the bigger the orgy!
Robert Hawkshaw |
There are a bunch of them out there, but it tends to be expensive. Try a google search for "commission minature painter" and they all pop up. You might have better luck asking around your FLGS for a local painter, or checking on minis websites like dakkadakka.com, coolminiornot or warseer.com for someone in your state.
Robert Hawkshaw |
There is a sri lankan fellow. Let me find the link.
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Fernando Enterprises in Sri Lanka http://www.miniaturelovers.com/
Iron Halo in New Zealand: http://ironhalo.net/levels.htm
But there must be someone in Australia who does it.
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
This is fantastic. So, what other monsters from the Bestiary would be ideal for the Bones line - things you need a heap of to put onto the gaming table? Kobolds would be good. Orcs are already there, as are skellies.
I *might* be wrong, but I believe that all of the minis Reaper is offering up as Bones use existing sculpts, which means that any other Pathfinder Bones would have to come from their existing selection of metal minis—currently, there are 143 to choose from.
Steve Geddes |
There is a sri lankan fellow. Let me find the link.
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Fernando Enterprises in Sri Lanka http://www.miniaturelovers.com/Iron Halo in New Zealand: http://ironhalo.net/levels.htm
But there must be someone in Australia who does it.
Thanks very much for your help. New Zealand is close enough if necessary and I can ask areound at the FLGS. Cheers. :)
Jadeite |
brock, no the other one... wrote:This is fantastic. So, what other monsters from the Bestiary would be ideal for the Bones line - things you need a heap of to put onto the gaming table? Kobolds would be good. Orcs are already there, as are skellies.I *might* be wrong, but I believe that all of the minis Reaper is offering up as Bones use existing sculpts, which means that any other Pathfinder Bones would have to come from their existing selection of metal minis—currently, there are 143 to choose from.
Most are, but there are several new pieces, too.
This site offers a good of the miniatures up close, as well as their previous price point in metal. It's not totally up to date, though.Link
MJinthePitt |
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cthulhudarren wrote:These look great! But I have no idea how to paint mini's. How does it differ from metal to plastic?These minis are some of the least expensive you will find to practice on, and they are better quality than what you will likely find at a similar price point elsewhere.
Plastic and metal paints very similarly. A beginner probably wont notice much difference. Personally, I liked metal minis more in the past when I was primarily playing RPGs, but have recently come to favor plastics for wargaming. The newer plastics can get high detail that used to be exclusive to metal.
There are lots of guides for painting here and elsewhere. If you need paints, the Reaper ones in the kickstarter are fairly good quality.
Agreed on being good to practice on. I've never painted a miniature in 30 years of gaming. Heck, I've still a few boxes of AD&D miniatures that have never even come close to a paint brush.
I'm in this kickstarter at the $100 level and I'm sure the first things I'll be trying out a paint job on are the mech warriors or something like that. But still, I'm sure I'll be able to figure out a way to incorporate them into a Golarion game some time!
MJinthePitt |
Since I started really paying attention to how fast the pledged amount was going up, this thing has jumped over $3,000 in the last hour. Please note, it's currently almost 3:30 AM eastern. Someone at Gen Con is doing their work getting the news out about this.
And yes, I just posted the link on reddit again.
brock, no the other one... |
brock, no the other one... wrote:This is fantastic. So, what other monsters from the Bestiary would be ideal for the Bones line - things you need a heap of to put onto the gaming table? Kobolds would be good. Orcs are already there, as are skellies.I *might* be wrong, but I believe that all of the minis Reaper is offering up as Bones use existing sculpts, which means that any other Pathfinder Bones would have to come from their existing selection of metal minis—currently, there are 143 to choose from.
Most are, but there are several new pieces, too.
I guess that I'll have to wait and see what the other Pathfinder related stretch goals are. Since the main point of Bones is that they are cheaper, it seems to make sense to make new molds (which resin requires) for things that they will sell a lot of. People tend to buy multiples of monsters but only singles of the iconics.
Vic - consider the above a vote for new monster sculpts based on commonly used monsters from the bestiary(s) then :)
Caineach |
Kicktraq suggests around 830k as a base figure at this rate...
http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-an-evol ution-of-gaming-min/
With yesterday added in, they are up to 920K as the low estimate. 840 is the trend, which is an average. The estimate takes into account the slope of the graph, which is wierdly accelerating on this kickstarter instead of decelerating
MJinthePitt |
Love that the 715k stretch goal will include 4 dark elves in the $100 pledge. That will bring the total up to 150 miniatures total for that level.
I've bumped my initial pledge up to $155 to include the $100 level (147 miniatures) and then the Orcpocalypse (20 pieces), "Mind Your Manors" (3), and the Ice AND Fire King and Queens (4 total).
89 cents per miniature.
And as I hit submit, the 675k stretch is only $4,722 from being hit.
EDIT the 675k stretch will be hit before noon eastern!
GentleGiant |
A couple of points.
1) Even if you can't afford the $100 Vampire level pledge, throw some money at them anyway and with the lower level pledges there are still some options available for you (e.g. the paints) if you're thinking of buying that anyway. More pledges (even smaller ones) = more minis available for everyone!
2) After the Kickstarter has ended, all of these minis will be up for ordinary Bones sale anyway, so you can still buy them then. Albeit at a higher price point.
3) For those who don't want to paint. If you can put down a base coat of paint on a miniature (REALLY doesn't require a lot of skill) you can get very decent miniatures by using a technique called "Dipping."
There are several methods to this, including using washes (available from several companies) or more "traditional" dipping mediums (varnish-like shading).
Here's a Google search that'll help you on your way.