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I think I would prefer Intuition. I put it in my background as the God whispering warnings. So I will stick with that and drop the heightened senses.


Male Human

Just wanted to pop in and mention that in terms of folklore, Gyve may also look to Jack-in-Irons - a Yorkshire giant covered in chains, wore the heads of his enemies and wielded a spiked club…

Jack-In-Irons:

In the annals of English mythology, Jack-In-Irons plays a role akin to the chaotic trickster, albeit one far more menacing. He has an unyielding penchant for frightening anyone daring—or foolish—enough to wander into his territory after sundown. Nocturnal commutes become high-stakes gambles, dares between young folks too brazen to heed the whispered cautionary tales. Yet, in an intriguing twist, some narratives introduce a sliver of complexity to his otherwise fearsome demeanor. Amidst the malevolent escapades, Jack-In-Irons is said to free trapped animals, offering an unexpected glimpse of altruism or, perhaps, a more calculated caprice.
His special powers are as potent as his towering presence suggests. Not just any chains could hold a being of his might; they are, according to accounts, unbreakable and perhaps enchanted. His club, too, is no mere lump of wood and flesh, but a fearsome tool capable of both physical and psychological torment. Each human head affixed to it is a reservoir of anguished souls, which, it’s rumored, can be summoned to serve various dark errands. With a swing of his club, he can unleash a torrent of spectral wails that disorient and terrorize, turning even the bravest of hearts to quivering jelly.


Black Dow wrote:
Ridge wrote:
SUPERVisor Black Dow wrote:


Also mocked up our crimefighting clown: Whiteface (Would like him more "grubby" looking... in my mind's eye see him as Joker meets Rorschach meets Jack-In-The-Box - decent start I hope tho - see what Ridge reckons of course :)

I like it! I'm sorry I haven't been as responsive as I should have been this weekend, we had a guest over and I'm a bit scrambled of wits and time :)

I can tell you I imagine any hair he has is probably a wig or even part of his cap as I keep picturing it as burned clean by the accident that transformed him. Torn on Grubby looking versus 'Classy faux court garb'... the latter fits his heritage more, but the former might fit the 80s during hard times vibe.

Also, I am thinking maybe you're right and I might drop the Psi powers anyway.

RL is RL mate - we'll tick along nicely til you have time.

I've done a revised version of Whiteface (in a Brian Bolland style) - came out even creepier lol, but I like the battered leather coat with old blood stains on it vs the garish clown costume.

And this take on Whiteface is unapologetically inspired by Rorschach (hence the Watchman smiley :)

And just realised I'm also channeling Art the CLown from Terrifier lol - a heady mix!


Benjamin Farn wrote:
I think I would prefer Intuition. I put it in my background as the God whispering warnings. So I will stick with that and drop the heightened senses.

Cool - nice rationale and works perfectly. His Heightened Senses may develop as the campaign unfolds ;)

@Oceanshieldwolf: Hah! Great (some would say madcap...) minds think alike - had some plans relating to Ol' Jack-in-Irons - but a link (pardon the pun) to Gyve works well also.


Right gang - let's look to get profiles up and running (for those who have not got one yet) this week and powers firmed up - so I have a broad overview of the group's capabilities.

We can continue with our background chats and I'll also start tying in characters to the wider vista we'll be operating in (links to organisations/NPCs/Villains etc).

Loving the group thusfar :) - interestingly though no female characters at all... (which is fine but am a little surprised at).


Black Dow wrote:
Ridge wrote:
SUPERVisor Black Dow wrote:


Also mocked up our crimefighting clown: Whiteface (Would like him more "grubby" looking... in my mind's eye see him as Joker meets Rorschach meets Jack-In-The-Box - decent start I hope tho - see what Ridge reckons of course :)

I like it! I'm sorry I haven't been as responsive as I should have been this weekend, we had a guest over and I'm a bit scrambled of wits and time :)

I can tell you I imagine any hair he has is probably a wig or even part of his cap as I keep picturing it as burned clean by the accident that transformed him. Torn on Grubby looking versus 'Classy faux court garb'... the latter fits his heritage more, but the former might fit the 80s during hard times vibe.

Also, I am thinking maybe you're right and I might drop the Psi powers anyway.

RL is RL mate - we'll tick along nicely til you have time.

I've done a revised version of Whiteface (in a Brian Bolland style) - came out even creepier lol, but I like the battered leather coat with old blood stains on it vs the garish clown costume.

And this take on Whiteface is unapologetically inspired by Rorschach (hence the Watchman smiley :)

Final revision (honest) of Whiteface

- tipping the nod more to his medieval Jester of Justice moniker and less scary clown tropes. Bit more "superheroey" and much more clownlike that some of the previous "serial killer vibes" lol. Ultimately let me know what's ticking your boxes and what's not :)


Oceanshieldwolf wrote:

Just wanted to pop in and mention that in terms of folklore, Gyve may also look to Jack-in-Irons - a Yorkshire giant covered in chains, wore the heads of his enemies and wielded a spiked club…

** spoiler omitted **

This is exactly what I was looking for and having no luck finding.

BD, let's change Gyves name to Jack-in-Irons.

I think his powers are clear and make sense. I was holding off on creating an alias because I had a feeling the universe would give me a name that clicked better.

I might need to make some more rolls, not sure. As I put together the alias I'll try to understand what the numbers and rules actually mean.


Alias created. I swapped Stunner for the martial arts upgrade. That may give me an extra power roll? I've lost track. Will take another look later.


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SUPERVisor Black Dow wrote:

Right gang - let's look to get profiles up and running (for those who have not got one yet) this week and powers firmed up - so I have a broad overview of the group's capabilities.

We can continue with our background chats and I'll also start tying in characters to the wider vista we'll be operating in (links to organisations/NPCs/Villains etc).

Loving the group thusfar :) - interestingly though no female characters at all... (which is fine but am a little surprised at).

Ya know what, I can make my PC a female. Nothing about my character screams male or female to me, so I'm cool with playin a woman.

In fact, if memory serves me right, there was(possibly long before game start, I forget), a rather badass, violent and infamous all female gang in the UK at one point. Perhaps I have some ties there?

And, in keeping with the theme, I'll borrow the name of an awesome ice themed pro wrestler: Lady Frost


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SUPERVisor Black Dow wrote:
Black Dow wrote:
Ridge wrote:
SUPERVisor Black Dow wrote:


Also mocked up our crimefighting clown: Whiteface (Would like him more "grubby" looking... in my mind's eye see him as Joker meets Rorschach meets Jack-In-The-Box - decent start I hope tho - see what Ridge reckons of course :)

I like it! I'm sorry I haven't been as responsive as I should have been this weekend, we had a guest over and I'm a bit scrambled of wits and time :)

I can tell you I imagine any hair he has is probably a wig or even part of his cap as I keep picturing it as burned clean by the accident that transformed him. Torn on Grubby looking versus 'Classy faux court garb'... the latter fits his heritage more, but the former might fit the 80s during hard times vibe.

Also, I am thinking maybe you're right and I might drop the Psi powers anyway.

RL is RL mate - we'll tick along nicely til you have time.

I've done a revised version of Whiteface (in a Brian Bolland style) - came out even creepier lol, but I like the battered leather coat with old blood stains on it vs the garish clown costume.

And this take on Whiteface is unapologetically inspired by Rorschach (hence the Watchman smiley :)

Final revision (honest) of Whiteface

- tipping the nod more to his medieval Jester of Justice moniker and less scary clown tropes. Bit more "superheroey" and much more clownlike that some of the previous "serial killer vibes" lol. Ultimately let me know what's ticking your boxes and what's not :)

I like it! I think you found a good balance with that one!


Jack-in-Chains wrote:
Alias created. I swapped Stunner for the martial arts upgrade. That may give me an extra power roll? I've lost track. Will take another look later.

Hey ST: I actually created a Jack-In-Irons profile ages ago as a pre-holder for a M&M horror game pitch (if one ever came up).

Jack-In-Irons

If you want the correct nom-du-guerre then let me know and I can delete my profile and hopefully free up the alias?


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Monkeygod wrote:
SUPERVisor Black Dow wrote:

Right gang - let's look to get profiles up and running (for those who have not got one yet) this week and powers firmed up - so I have a broad overview of the group's capabilities.

We can continue with our background chats and I'll also start tying in characters to the wider vista we'll be operating in (links to organisations/NPCs/Villains etc).

Loving the group thusfar :) - interestingly though no female characters at all... (which is fine but am a little surprised at).

Ya know what, I can make my PC a female. Nothing about my character screams male or female to me, so I'm cool with playin a woman.

In fact, if memory serves me right, there was(possibly long before game start, I forget), a rather badass, violent and infamous all female gang in the UK at one point. Perhaps I have some ties there?

And, in keeping with the theme, I'll borrow the name of an awesome ice themed pro wrestler: Lady Frost

Yes! Yes! Yes! Any pro-wrestling reference gets full marks from me :)

Lady Frost works nicely. Nice to have a female character in the ranks. The gang you mentioned I believe is the Forty Elephants who feature in the Disney+ series A Thousand Blows. yeah bit before our time (last active in the 50s) but we're also rewriting history with Maggie Thatcher as a cold, unemotional cyborg (hang on a minute...) so we've open house so have a female gang still be active.


SUPERVisor Black Dow wrote:
Jack-in-Chains wrote:
Alias created. I swapped Stunner for the martial arts upgrade. That may give me an extra power roll? I've lost track. Will take another look later.

Hey ST: I actually created a Jack-In-Irons profile ages ago as a pre-holder for a M&M horror game pitch (if one ever came up).

Jack-In-Irons

If you want the correct nom-du-guerre then let me know and I can delete my profile and hopefully free up the alias?

Let's give it a shot. I can also just put a . after the name or something.


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SUPERVisor Black Dow wrote:


Yes! Yes! Yes! Any pro-wrestling reference gets full marks from me :)

Lady Frost works nicely. Nice to have a female character in the ranks. The gang you mentioned I believe is the Forty Elephants who feature in the Disney+ series A Thousand Blows. yeah bit before our time (last active in the 50s) but we're also rewriting history with Maggie Thatcher as a cold, unemotional cyborg (hang on a minute...) so we've open house so have a female gang still be active.

My brother and I are huge pro wrestling fans, and he's actually a referee on the independent scene(semi retired due to bad shoulder injury). His most famous claim to fame is probably being the 3rd man between Rey Mysterio Jr and Amazing Red in a match honoring Eddie Guerrero, though he also ref'd a match between AJ Styles and Ricochet for the House of Glory world title.

And yes, the Forty Elephants were indeed who I were thinking of! I'm gonna do a lore dive into them(and likely watch that series, lol) tonight, and see if I can't get some inspiration.

Out of curiosity, how cool(ha!) are you with altering history a little bit, solely for awesome backstory purposes(though, I suppose my idea could have possible impacts on the actual gameplay if we encountered the right people, lol)??


@MG: Here's a first pass at a concept piece for Lady Frost - little bit of Eva Green, meets Torrie Wilson drawn by Marc Silvestri lol.

Now some of the rationale comes from the notion that there is another cold based villain in our world - Frosturm - a Swiss cryo-scientist whose a jobbing bad-guy. He does however create some decent freeze-tech - perhaps during a crime your character worked briefly with him (was inspired enough by his equipment to raid his safehouse when the job went sour - perhaps he betrayed your gang?) Anyhoo... the gloves and harness were some of his prototypes which you took as "reparations" - your natural agility and health meant you alone could wear them without experiencing torpor side-effect, and they allow you to blast/ice up your skin...

If above works - we could change Energy Attack 1 and Tough Skin 1 to Cybernetics 2 [Power Simulator for the these powers]. Advantage of device s over innate means a Brilliant Scientist can modify or improve them... Food for thought.

If I'm way off base let me know - as we'd still need to think why she's gone "good" :)

Edit 2: Have also done Lady Frost in a more traditional, yet with slight villainous undertones (in a Frank Quitely style). She looks heroic but her expression is one is disdain and superiority... "Kneel before Frost!"


Monkeygod wrote:
SUPERVisor Black Dow wrote:


Yes! Yes! Yes! Any pro-wrestling reference gets full marks from me :)

Lady Frost works nicely. Nice to have a female character in the ranks. The gang you mentioned I believe is the Forty Elephants who feature in the Disney+ series A Thousand Blows. yeah bit before our time (last active in the 50s) but we're also rewriting history with Maggie Thatcher as a cold, unemotional cyborg (hang on a minute...) so we've open house so have a female gang still be active.

My brother and I are huge pro wrestling fans, and he's actually a referee on the independent scene(semi retired due to bad shoulder injury). His most famous claim to fame is probably being the 3rd man between Rey Mysterio Jr and Amazing Red in a match honoring Eddie Guerrero, though he also ref'd a match between AJ Styles and Ricochet for the House of Glory world title.

Amazing. Yeah I'm a pro-wrestling mark also. One of my best buddies grew up around Kevin Sullivan in Boston and knew him well - has some great stories! kudos to your bro - that's an awesome anecdote!

And yes, the Forty Elephants were indeed who I were thinking of! I'm gonna do a lore dive into them(and likely watch that series, lol) tonight, and see if I can't get some inspiration.

Out of curiosity, how cool(ha!) are you with altering history a little bit, solely for awesome backstory purposes(though, I suppose my idea could have possible impacts on the actual gameplay if we encountered the right people, lol)??

Fine with that - let me know what your thinking incase it has any implications


GM SuperTumbler wrote:
SUPERVisor Black Dow wrote:
Jack-in-Chains wrote:
Alias created. I swapped Stunner for the martial arts upgrade. That may give me an extra power roll? I've lost track. Will take another look later.

Hey ST: I actually created a Jack-In-Irons profile ages ago as a pre-holder for a M&M horror game pitch (if one ever came up).

Jack-In-Irons

If you want the correct nom-du-guerre then let me know and I can delete my profile and hopefully free up the alias?

Let's give it a shot. I can also just put a . after the name or something.

Done. Should be freed up... (waits with trepidation)


Male Weremonkey Rogue/Ranger/Trickster
SUPERVisor Black Dow wrote:
Fine with that - let me know what your thinking incase it has any implications

Firstly, I love the second pic ya posted!

Also, would it be okay if I'm Mary Carr's granddaughter?

And, I'd love to somehow work in Hell-Cat Maggie and/or Gallus Mag into my backstory or bloodline.

If nothing else, I think my first name will be Maggie, in honor of Hell-Cat Maggie.


BD, you will have to inform based on the setting, real history, altered history.

I'm thinking Jack-in-Irons is young, like Peter Parker young. 16 or 17. His father was a striking miner, maybe a labor leader. The old man was killed by police in a "riot" or maybe just disappeared by the police.

His mom had cancer and died due to Thatcher cutbacks in public health. I don't know if any of this is quite right for the history and government. You obviously know why this is supposed to resonate.

Jack Redding was evading police after something went wrong at a protest. He ran into a dead end alley, run-climbing up the wall to a fire escape. But he loses his grip on the old iron, falling back to the street. The cobbles give way, and he tumbles into darkness, into an ancient dungeon of Newgate prison.

Wrapped in darkness, bones broken, Jack hears the voices of all of those lost spirits unjustly imprisoned and even executed in the 600 years of the prison's existence. Chains and shackles wrapped around him. The spirits knitted him back together, matching their rage with his.


Attack:
Rulebook:
HTC 64 | HTK 72 |Damage Divisor +1
Stats:
Ego 11 | Str 19 | Dex 9 | Vigor 20

I picked a new avatar. In my costume I wear a black bodysuit with gloves and a the Avatar is what my head looks like. The beaded part should look a little more like this though.


@Benjamin Farn: Ah getcha. Sorry I was taking things literally with the Jaguar - pastiche of Black Panther/The Leopard/etc..

Okay, how does this work? Hopefully more in line with your vision: Yaguar (He Who Kills With One Leap)


Jack-in-Irons wrote:

BD, you will have to inform based on the setting, real history, altered history.

I'm thinking Jack-in-Irons is young, like Peter Parker young. 16 or 17. His father was a striking miner, maybe a labor leader. The old man was killed by police in a "riot" or maybe just disappeared by the police.

His mom had cancer and died due to Thatcher cutbacks in public health. I don't know if any of this is quite right for the history and government. You obviously know why this is supposed to resonate.

Jack Redding was evading police after something went wrong at a protest. He ran into a dead end alley, run-climbing up the wall to a fire escape. But he loses his grip on the old iron, falling back to the street. The cobbles give way, and he tumbles into darkness, into an ancient dungeon of Newgate prison.

Wrapped in darkness, bones broken, Jack hears the voices of all of those lost spirits unjustly imprisoned and even executed in the 600 years of the prison's existence. Chains and shackles wrapped around him. The spirits knitted him back together, matching their rage with his.

Hey ST - that totally works. Father is a striking miner - perhaps picket leader (was "supervisor" to the strikers picket lines - who we're heavily targetted by police under Thatcher's iron hand.

Thatcher sought to privatise the NHS (National Health Service) and cuts/bills were really there to hit the poor or those who had saved to enjoy retirement. The fat cats stayed fat.

Mother dying of cancer whilst social care was hit would have had made sense. Young Jack would have likely had to look after her while his Da was on the picket lines. Makes for a heady cocktail of youthful rage and quest for social justice - really like that.

Demonstrations were often just broken up by police with heavy handed verve. Back in the 80s you were just as likely to get pulled into a van (Black Maria - a paddy wagon) and given a "do'ing" to teach you a lesson. So Jack running also makes perfect sense.

Brilliant origin - very on brand for this game mate.


Male Hairy Highlander Halfbreed (ThirdSwede) Barbarian 9/King O' The North 5/Staffy Dad 7
Monkeygod wrote:
SUPERVisor Black Dow wrote:
Fine with that - let me know what your thinking incase it has any implications

Firstly, I love the second pic ya posted!

Also, would it be okay if I'm Mary Carr's granddaughter?

And, I'd love to somehow work in Hell-Cat Maggie and/or Gallus Mag into my backstory or bloodline.

If nothing else, I think my first name will be Maggie, in honor of Hell-Cat Maggie.

Mary Carr's grand-daughter works perfectly. Maggie would work - but remember that PM Margaret Thatcher was know as Maggie also... Mags might work tho'

All sounds good stuff. Do we want to make Lady Frost look less "clean cut" if that makes sense? Or is she a a hero with a gangsters spirit?

Interested to see how you square off her past/present and alter ego...


Attack:
Rulebook:
HTC 64 | HTK 72 |Damage Divisor +1
Stats:
Ego 11 | Str 19 | Dex 9 | Vigor 20
SUPERVisor Black Dow wrote:

@Benjamin Farn: Ah getcha. Sorry I was taking things literally with the Jaguar - pastiche of Black Panther/The Leopard/etc..

Okay, how does this work? Hopefully more in line with your vision: Yaguar (He Who Kills With One Leap)

Yes, this looks like what I was aiming for. I was not thinking of transforming into a cat.


Male Weremonkey Rogue/Ranger/Trickster
Black Dow wrote:

Mary Carr's grand-daughter works perfectly. Maggie would work - but remember that PM Margaret Thatcher was know as Maggie also... Mags might work tho'

All sounds good stuff. Do we want to make Lady Frost look less "clean cut" if that makes sense? Or is she a a hero with a gangsters spirit?

Interested to see how you square off her past/present and alter ego...

Okay, awesome! I kinda really like how 'Maggie Carr' sounds, so unless you're sayin there can't be two 'Maggies' in the Golden Heroes world, I would like to keep that as her name.

I think giving her a more rugged look would make sense, all things considered, but not overly so.

I'm thinking *maybe* her position of power comes from her owning a decent sized shipping company(maybe both land and sea, possibly also air?) which she uses to smuggle people who are indeed of escape from bad places to somewhere safe?

Also, as I mentioned when I first rolled my powers, I often play some sort of organized crime character. Usually, I default to the Italian Mafia, but since we're in the UK, perhaps I could have ties to the Kinahan Cartel as well or instead? Though, we would have to mess around with the timeline a bit, since they only formed in the 90s.


Male Hairy Highlander Halfbreed (ThirdSwede) Barbarian 9/King O' The North 5/Staffy Dad 7

@MG: Maggie is fine bud, might drop the odd NPC comment about it not being as popular nowadays etc :)

Like the rationale - shipping company - makes sense and could provide some good drama for her secret ID also.

I'd just make up another cartel/gang - there will be plenty we'll encounter in the campaign. Many smaller "firms' exist with their strings being pulled by various bigger fish. Keep it smaller scale for now.

@Benjamin: Yeah wasn't so much transforming into a cat as a tip of the nod towards UK superhero The Leopard (of Lime Street) - all good though. Will keep that one up my sleeve for a future M&M game tho' ;)


Alright then MG - let me know if these work for you:

Lady Frost Comic Logo Tried here to capture the essence of the character who looks heroic but has a criminal past...

Lady Frost Herself

And here's her a little more "White Walker"...

Lady Frost 2


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Oooh, I definitely like the 2nd one more, with the darker shades, and the blue lips! Logo is pretty fire(ha!) too.

I'll create an alias tonight.


If I'm gonna play a reformed villain who is ice themed, there's not a a more perfect avatar than Queen Elvanna.

BD, would you prefer my alias be my civilian or super hero persona?

Also, is there any sort of preferred format for our sheets?


@MG: Looks good :) - prefer aliases to be your superhero persona please.

Re: Format nothing preferred. Right now just capture all the pertinent info (re: crunch) for your character and some background/origin info.

Some rough notes on what you'd like to develop would be useful, but we've time to get that nailed down.

Let me also have a play around on a sheet layout and I'll see what makes most sense for me/you guys.

@All: Am working on some campaign notes that I'll start to populate in the Campaign Tab.

Haven't heard back from Crimson_King so might be we're down to 6 in the group - will keep the slot open as I know RL can stymie folk.

Have also got a bunch of non-Golden Heroes material that I'm converting (short adventures/encounters etc - mainly from 3PP for Villains & Vigilantes + M&M) - once I get them all nailed down we'll have a firm plan to kick off the game.


Have populated the Campaign Tab with setting info and some morsels of plots to come...

I'll be putting a bunch of material in there over the coming week - idea is to kick off gameplay in a week or so (depending on if gameplay thread is activated by the Tech Goblins) - if not I'll create a new campaign and link this discussion thread to it - have held off trying this incase it all goes "Pete Tong"... so if anyone's tried it successfully before let me know :)

Anyhoo - have a read - look forward to hearing what you think!


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I love a lot about this.. Cyborg Thatcher, Musical references etc..
But THIS has me extra intrigued

Quote:
[7]: Recently appointed General Secretary Gorbachev has made overtures that an era of Glasnost (“openness”) with the West is something he wishes to pursue. However critics have suggested that the emphasis of the Cold War will merely shift to svéhnormal’nyj (supernormal) tensions.

Could be interesting to see some Soviet supers visit on a 'good will tour'


Whiteface wrote:

I love a lot about this.. Cyborg Thatcher, Musical references etc..

But THIS has me extra intrigued

Quote:
[7]: Recently appointed General Secretary Gorbachev has made overtures that an era of Glasnost (“openness”) with the West is something he wishes to pursue. However critics have suggested that the emphasis of the Cold War will merely shift to svéhnormal’nyj (supernormal) tensions.

Could be interesting to see some Soviet supers visit on a 'good will tour'

I zay nichego :)

Brings to mind the Rocky IV quote when the Russian spokesman is talking about Drago:

'As you can see, it highly advanced state of the art equipment and makes a man into a better man, a super, a great athlete into super athlete by harnessing all his strength. Most of the world is ignorant to body chemistry, we wish to educate your country."


Jack-in-Irons wrote:

BD, you will have to inform based on the setting, real history, altered history.

I'm thinking Jack-in-Irons is young, like Peter Parker young. 16 or 17. His father was a striking miner, maybe a labor leader. The old man was killed by police in a "riot" or maybe just disappeared by the police.

His mom had cancer and died due to Thatcher cutbacks in public health. I don't know if any of this is quite right for the history and government. You obviously know why this is supposed to resonate.

Jack Redding was evading police after something went wrong at a protest. He ran into a dead end alley, run-climbing up the wall to a fire escape. But he loses his grip on the old iron, falling back to the street. The cobbles give way, and he tumbles into darkness, into an ancient dungeon of Newgate prison.

Wrapped in darkness, bones broken, Jack hears the voices of all of those lost spirits unjustly imprisoned and even executed in the 600 years of the prison's existence. Chains and shackles wrapped around him. The spirits knitted him back together, matching their rage with his.

So i pushed your illustration through the AI sausage machine, then spent more time that I care to disclose fine tuning... got this in the end:

Jack-In-Chains

And also came up with couple of versions of your logo:

JIC Logo 1 Bit punky with graffiti style and the chains all around...

JIC Logo 2 More McFarlane/Spawn/Cenobites vibe. But I guess he is a "horror" character of sorts

Jack-In-Irons:

Looking at his Powers I count 6 allocated with you only taking Pugilism 1 (which I think fits him well - he's a street brawler rather than a seasoned boxer or fighter). Based on his origin I'd suggest Health 1: Regeneration or Fast Recovery?


Attack:
Rulebook:
HTC 64 | HTK 72 |Damage Divisor +1
Stats:
Ego 11 | Str 19 | Dex 9 | Vigor 20

Larger Strength bonus: 1d6 + 2 ⇒ (5) + 2 = 7

Larger Vigor bonus: 1d6 + 2 ⇒ (6) + 2 = 8

HTC: 20d6 ⇒ (5, 3, 2, 2, 4, 6, 5, 2, 1, 5, 1, 4, 1, 2, 4, 1, 6, 4, 4, 2) = 64

HTK: 20d6 ⇒ (1, 1, 5, 5, 6, 4, 6, 3, 2, 5, 4, 4, 5, 1, 2, 4, 2, 5, 2, 5) = 72

I believe I have my character sheet fully filled out now with what I can do. I am not sure about some of the Backing information, etc.

Let me know if I am missing something or failed to do correctly.

Questions for the Black Dow:

So Leaping is based off of Movement speed. Speed doubles my movement but says it does not affect other movement powers and then calls out Flying as not be affected by the increase. Do I multiply by my original speed or the new base land speed when determining my leaping distance?

Both Leaping and Speed give bonuses to a Hand/Foot attack after I charge in. Can I use my Claws on this attack instead or combine the damage?


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Hi, sorry , lost the tab. Am back ;-)


Welcome back hombre - okay let's do a review of your character and take it from there.

Photon:

Here's what I PM'd previously - can't recall if we agreed on way forward?
Looking over Proton have a couple of suggestions...

Ego 3d6 ⇒ (1, 1, 2) = 4
STRENGTH 3d6 ⇒ (4, 6, 4) = 14 (19 with growth)
DEXTERITY 3d6 ⇒ (2, 1, 4) = 7
VIGOUR 3d6 ⇒ (3, 6, 4) = 13 =+ 9 = 22 (27 with growth)

Power roll = 1d6 ⇒ 3 + 4 = 7

Powers!

1d100 ⇒ 85 Vigour +1d6 + 6 ⇒ (3) + 6 = 9 (Yep makes sense)
1d100 ⇒ 19 Energy attack Type: 1d10 ⇒ 3 (electricity) Cool
1d100 ⇒ 100 Player's choice = energy attack grade+1 Yep
1d100 ⇒ 35 Growth (Strength+1d6 ⇒ 5; vigour+1d6 ⇒ 5) Nice - change of power
1d100 ⇒ 78 Teleportation Movement ability. Check.
1d100 ⇒ 100 Player's choice = energy attack grade +1 Nice - you'll need a gimmick. Was going to suggest Manifestations - he can "charge" his fists or feet with a portion of his voltage to deliver an contact attack that does +1 or 2d6 of his Energy points?
1d100 ⇒ 51 Martial arts 1d6 ⇒ 1 (martial arts) As i touched on previously there's enough Martial Artists in the group so would prefer if you dropped this. Worth considering Energy immunity (Electricity)? Makes sense and you can pick this as an option with Energy immunity 2+...

Have a think on what fits - have a villain I'd also like to tie you in with.

Free Advantageous Background!

Perhaps Previous Training - Ego +2? This could be down to meditation or therapy he completed to manage his new state?

Answers to Benjamin/Jaguar:

You multiply your original speed - so 7m x 19 (STR) = Up to 133m in a round... not too shabby at all :)

So if you charge in (using Speed while on the ground) you'd gain +4 damage mod. Leaping into combat you gain +2 damage mod. So different attack "modes" if you like for him, both netting a damage mod.

No problem with you subbing Claw damage in lieu of the normal hand/foot damage at the end of a charge or leap.

Remember you'd choose where to add the damage mods; could be his leaping claw is 2d6+2HTK, 1d6HTC, while his charge could be 2d6HTK & 1d6+4HTC.

In both cases you'd still need to spend 1 full frame recovering after the attack.


Et Al. Will give it another day or so for the Tech Goblins to fix the game thread. If naught happens I'll untether this discussion and recruitment from the current campaign page and set a new one up (and reconnect)... Hopefully that'll work...


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Just wanted to say that any timeline that eliminates "View to a Kill" by Duran Duran is truly the darkest timeline.


Attack:
Rulebook:
HTC 64 | HTK 72 |Damage Divisor +1
Stats:
Ego 11 | Str 19 | Dex 9 | Vigor 20

So any word on how things are going?


Hey All - work and RL have snuck up on me this week with bunch of stuff landing in my lap.

Will have a good look at the game thread situation over the weekend and may have to untether this thread and link to new game thread... see how that plays out.

Once I get that up and running we'll be better placed.

Meantime we can start working on your Campaign Ratings if the PC crunch is all done and dusted.

I'll get something up on this on the morrow.

@ST: All might not be lost... perhaps View has yet to come out :D


We're going camping this weekend. Will be out of Internet until Monday. Cheers


All good - will get a guide to the Campaign Ratings up over the weekend and we can get them nailed down (and aligned with PC backgrounds).

Also going to disconnect this Dicussion Thread and reconnect to a new campaign - so things may go haywire/you lot might not get updates.

EDIT: Seems to have worked, so please go ahead and dot/delete in the Gameplay Thread


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Attack:
Rulebook:
HTC 64 | HTK 72 |Damage Divisor +1
Stats:
Ego 11 | Str 19 | Dex 9 | Vigor 20

Dotted!


CAMPAIGN RATINGS

In a Campaign, further attributes and characteristics must be determined for each character to flesh them out. The following covers additional
material ranging from a character's Financial Resources to the refinement of existing Superpowers or the development of new ones.

The characters must be rated by you in these additional areas for playing a Campaign. Guidelines are given for initially assessing the rating for a character. Thereafter, the ratings will fluctuate from scenario to scenario during the Campaign and the ratings will be reassessed the ratings for each character at the start of each scenario taking account of the circumstances of the particular scenario, how the player has been playing the character, whether the player has devoted any DUPs or made an effort to improve a rating, whether they have done enough to maintain a rating, etc, and inform the player of any changes to their Ratings and any other effects, such as Hero Points and a drop in their Finances, etc.

These Campaign Ratings are important since they affect the development of the individual characters. Most of them can be increased or decreased depending on the characters performance, but, equally, they are influenced by events outside the player's control.

Consequently, it will be my role as SUPERVisor to ensure that while your Superheroes are out saving the world, events in their private lives are still continuing apace. A parent might be killed in a car crash, someone might uncover a secret in the character's past, or a someone disguised as one of the PCs might appear in public and commit a small crime in an attempt to blacken the character's name and reputation.


CAMPAIGN RATINGS - FINANCIAL RESOURCE LEVEL

This essentially is what equipment a character can afford to buy to supplement their starting equipment, what sort of medical care they can afford, whether they can afford to repair damaged equipment, and so on... all of this is determined by their Financial Resources level.

A character's Financial Resource Level is rated on a scale of 1-10.

Initially, you should determine the Financial Resource Level for each individual character. Some characters will have had their initial
Financial Resource Level specified by an Advantageous Background. To rate other characters, simply use the character's Background and Rationale as detailed by the player to determine the character's Financial Resource Level from the table below. For example, if the character were a student, he/she would be Level 2 or 3. If they had held a steady job for some years, they might be Level 4 or 5. However, no character should start with a rating higher than 5 (which itself should be rare) - unless they had an Advantageous Background...

[FINANCIAL RESOURCE LEVEL]

Level 1: Starving - always in debt. You could be destitute or penniless.
Level 2: On the breadline. You barely make ends meet and have little or no spare finances for items beyond the bare essentials. Social support is your lifeline.
Level 3: Marginal. You manage to live on a tight budget and rely on the social system support.
Level 4: Average. You're one of the lower classes - have an income but only enjoy luxuries on special occasions.
Level 5: Comfortable. You have a steady income and can plan for savings or outlays.
Level 6: Well-to-do. You have a income that allows you afford luxuries on a regular basis.
Level 7: Eminent. Your wealth is considerable and you want for little.
Level 8: You enjoy the finer things in life, in every aspect of your life.
Level 9: Your wealth is renowned and you lifestyle reflects this.
Level 10: Tycoon. You are immensely wealthy and powerful person in your chosen circles.


I would say Jack is Level 2. He can work cash jobs doing heavy labor or being a bouncer at a bar or club, but he is very unstable financially.


@Jack: I like that... He's probably on the dole (Social Security) but doing "cashers" to top up his coin and live hand-to-mouth.

Characters can raise enough funds to operate at a level of one higher than normal for a one off transaction, i.e., they cash some bonds, take time job, pawn something valuable, or work overtime, etc. When doing so the character must devote 1 DUP (Day Utility Phase) each time.

The type of life the character leads obviously depends upon Financial Resource Level. The table below gives the clothes, dwelling place,
communications and transportation characters with the appropriate Financial Resource Level naturally have available to them. They represent the things the character already has. A character also has access to all aspects of lower Financial Resource Levels.

In some instances, a character may have a life-style that reflects a different Financial Resource Level since it is from the job, for example, rather than from the character’s pocket. In these instances, you should allocate the character a Financial Resource Level and a Life-Style Resource level.

[FINANCIAL RESOURCE LEVEL DWELLING/TRANSPORT/COMMUNICATION/WARDROBE]

Level 1: Gutter or Doss House/Foot/Grapevine/Rags or Charity Shop
Level 2: Hostel/Public Transport/Letters/What they stand up in
Level 3: Shared Rented Room/Bicycle/All Postal Services/Cheap working clothes
Level 4: Own Rented Room/Moped or Scooter/Public Telephone/Casual Suits or clothing
Level 5: Rented Flat or Council House/Motorbike or Second Hand Car/Private Telephone/Off-the-peg suits or clothing
Level 6: Private Flat or Small House/Average new car or taxis/International Telephone/Superior suits or clothing
Level 7: Large Private House/Limousine/Telex/Tailored suits or clothing
Level 8: Late Private Town House/Chauffer-Driven Limo/Standard with scrambler/Specially designed clothing
Level 9: Mansion/Private Jet/Private with scrambler/Haute Couture
Level 10: Private Estate(s)/Private Yacht, Helicopter etc/Private Satellite system/Personal designer or tailor

[FINANCIAL RESOURCE LEVEL REPAIRS/REPLACEMENTS TO GEAR]

Level 3: Costume rips
Level 4: New Costume
Level 5: Ammunition replacements
Level 6: Equipment renovation
Level 7: Repairs to special vehicle
Level 8: Replacement special vehicle
Level 9: Repair to special building
Level 10: Replacement special building

Characters can hire one-off usage of Material resource levels at two levels lower than their current Financial Resource level (or one level lower if they devote a DUP to raising additional resources) if they know how to use the equipment. If they do not know how to use the equipment, they must also hire technical support. This will reduce the level of Material resources they can afford by one.

For other items characters require, just set a Financial Resource level needed to use it and see if the individual character can afford to use
it.


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Attack:
Rulebook:
HTC 64 | HTK 72 |Damage Divisor +1
Stats:
Ego 11 | Str 19 | Dex 9 | Vigor 20

So I would say that Ben is a 5. He found and sold a various artifacts he found in South America. He also has some money saved from his military time. Currently, he mainly makes money doing talks about his exploration to exotic places for clubs or scholarly groups to feel close to the lands they are reading about.

He probably has sold everything that he intends to sell, even if he kept a few minor pieces he likes. I would like him to have a temporary position with the museum providing insight and curation of the South America section. He will be looking to get a permanent position with the museum or one of the major universities.


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I think Proton is a PhD student (how else do you get close to a particle accelerator). So financial 4.

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