Optimizing Class DC - Which classes have the best Class DC progression?

[Ravingdork]

Which classes have the best Class DC progression? And how can we best take advantage of it?

Off the top of my head I'm thinking of the Snare Crafter archetype to make snares with much higher snare DCs. (In Remaster the archetype makes your snare save DCs use your class DC without the need for a 10th-level feat.)

Wasn't there something with thaumaturge and magical item DCs as well? Could that be poached via multiclassing feats?

[SuperBidi]

Casters, as they usually use their Spell DC instead.
Class DCs all go to Master, none to Legendary. They are aligned with Magus/Summoner spell DCs.

[Perpdepog]

I don't think spell DCs work for the kinds of tricks Ravingdork is talking about, though.

And all that's coming to mind for me are to look at kineticist, and maybe the commander and the SF2E soldier, who all go to legendary with class DC.

[Ravingdork]

Indeed, I would rather keep the focus on things that rely on the Class DC alone.

Ravingdork wrote:

Wasn't there something with thaumaturge and magical item DCs as well? Could that be poached via multiclassing feats?

Darn. Intensify Investiture is level 12, meaning it can't be poached via multiclass feats.

So go with kineticist or perhaps one of the newer claseses if you want high DCs, and perhaps with thaumaturge if you want to have your DCs apply to more things (such as snares AND magical items).

[Easl]

SuperBidi wrote:

Casters, as they usually use their Spell DC instead.

Class DCs all go to Master, none to Legendary. They are aligned with Magus/Summoner spell DCs.

Not a caster, but Kineticist class DC goes 1 trained/7 expert/16 master/19 legendary

[Unicore]

The commander will probably go to legendary on class DC as well, and that would really make a lot of sense for stuff like the snarecrafter archetype.

[Perpdepog]

I really like the mental image of a commander or soldier standing at one end of a hallway, grinning as some enemies round the corner.

"Come down this hall, I dare you. I double-dog dare you. Oh, this weapon? You don't need to worry about it. See? I'm even pointing it at the floor."

[Ravingdork]

It seems Battle Harbinger from Divine Mysteries also gets Legendary Class DC at level 19.

But how to take advantage of it? What are some great abilities or combos that rely on class DC?

[Guntermench]

SuperBidi wrote:

Casters, as they usually use their Spell DC instead.

Class DCs all go to Master, none to Legendary. They are aligned with Magus/Summoner spell DCs.

Only for effects that specify you can use either.

For anything else they have the worst Class DC as it never goes beyond Trained.

[Guntermench]

Ravingdork wrote:

It seems Battle Harbinger from Divine Mysteries also gets Legendary Class DC at level 19.

But how to take advantage of it? What are some great abilities or combos that rely on class DC?

Kobold/Dragonblood breath? Some crit specs.