Oracle remaster speculation.


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We've seen at least a little info on the revised alchemist and champion. Has there been any update on what will change with the revised oracle? I'm really hoping mystery and curse arent tied together anymore. I enjoyed mixing and matching them in 1e.


From the Paizocon remaster stream iirc the curse is getting separated from the focus spells and they're instead gonna be feats you can take that'll give you something that'll increase your now unique cursebound condition if you do the thing. Also I think each mystery is getting two more thematic domains to let spell poaching easier.

There's probably more said but that's the ones I can remember off the top of my head.

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I'm hoping they'll make the revelation spells automatic. Never liked needing to take class feats to justify a subclass.


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This is what I found in a Paizocon wrap up.

A lot of changes for the Oracle, its a cool concept, it made it hard to get power into your hands when you need it. They’ve done a lot to make them simpler, but if you want more disruptive curse effects, you can take them later to opt in. Cursebound condition, 1 2 3 or 4, you get access to higher levels of it later, whenever you use something with the trait it advances– but its not focus spells anymore, those are still here, but they don’t advance your curse. Every mystery gets one, for instance reach/widen as a free action in exchange for cursebound. You might be clumsy based on your cursebound, or vuln to magic, it sounds like it’s different per mystery. Quality of life, some mysteries had trouble getting spells they wanted, the give twice as many domains now, and come with a granted spell list like a deity does. They put more oracle flavor into the feats, james favorite epiphany of the crossroads, you have to be dying, but you can receive a vision, and get a big heal from it. Thousand visions for example, available to any mystery reduces your vision of far away things, but increases your vision for close things.


Also hoping they fixed the ancestors, lore and battle mysteries.


Powers128 wrote:
I'm hoping they'll make the revelation spells automatic. Never liked needing to take class feats to justify a subclass.

Seems unlikely since that's how other casters work like Cleric and Sorcerer. But it would definitely be nice if it did work that way.

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I hope they fix the MC Dedication.

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Tridus wrote:
Powers128 wrote:
I'm hoping they'll make the revelation spells automatic. Never liked needing to take class feats to justify a subclass.
Seems unlikely since that's how other casters work like Cleric and Sorcerer. But it would definitely be nice if it did work that way.

It's not how psychic works and I wish more casters operated like that

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