Critical Confirmation

[Firehand]

So, if I have a Crit range of 18-20 and the AC of the target is
a 19 and I roll a 18 and then confirm with another 18 is this a critical hit?

[Parody]

This forum is for the Pathfinder Adventure Card Game, not either edition of the RPG.

Assuming you're talking about Pathfinder 1e, the confirmation roll only has to hit to confirm the crit. The die roll doesn't have to be in the critical range. 1s still auto-miss (fail to confirm) and 20s still auto-hit (confirm).

See Critical Hits under the Attack action in the Core Rulebook.

[glass]

Firehand wrote:

So, if I have a Crit range of 18-20 and the AC of the target is

a 19 and I roll a 18 and then confirm with another 18 is this a critical hit?

When you say "I roll an 18," do you mean a natural 18 (with at least a +1 bonus to make it a hit) or a total of 18? "I rolled an X" usually means the latter unless your specify "natural" or "on the die".

A natural roll in the threat range which misses is just a miss. It is not a threat, so you do not roll to confirm.

The exception being a natural 20, which (barring external factors like Miss Chance) is always a hit and so always a threat. Although obviously, if you are relying on a natural 20 to hit your chances of confirming are not great.

When you do roll to confirm, the natural die roll only matters if it is a 1 or 20 (and then, only if the combination of attack bonus and AC is extreme that a 1 is an arithmetic hit or a 20 is an arithmentic miss). Threat range is not a factor once your get to the confirmation roll.

I am not sure I understood exactly what your question was, but does that answer it?

[Mysterious Stranger]

The thing to keep in mind is that there is a difference between what you roll and your final result. What you roll on the dice is considered the natural result. Your final result is your natural roll adjusted for by the total modifiers on your chance to hit. Most of the time your chance to hit is determined by your final result. The only exception is that if you roll a natural 20 that is always a hit no matter what the AC.

Your chance to threaten a critical is also based on the natural roll. Most of the time that is on a natural 20, but that can be modified by other things. If your natural roll is within the critical threat of your attack and is high enough to hit the opponents AC, you get to roll to confirm. If your threat range is larger than 20 a possible threat does not mean it is an automatic hit. For example, if you have an 18-20 threat range and no bonus to attack and roll an 18 vs something with a 19 AC you still miss and do not roll for conformation.

If you threaten a critical (by a natural roll within the threat range), you have to roll to confirm the critical. To confirm a critical hit, you need to make a successful attack roll against the targets AC with the exact same modifier as the original roll. The conformation roll only needs to hit the targets AC; it does not need to be a natural roll within the critical range. Like any attack roll a natural 20 on the conformation roll still hits and a natural 1 still misses. So, if you had a +10 bonus to hit and your target had a 19 AC any roll of 9 or better would confirm the critical hit.

In the original example if you did not have at least a +1 bonus to hit you would miss on the original attack roll, so it would not be considered a threat, and you would not get a roll to confirm.

[AwesomenessDog]

This is a duplicate forum post to here. Poster probably realized they made it in the wrong spot and then made it again at the link where it has already been adressed.