Oni and Rakshasa Nephillim post Remaster


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In a stream it was mentioned that Oni and Rakshasa were not fiends any longer in the traditional sense; they are other kinds of evils.
Given that, what are those descended from them called? Are they still nephillim or will there be a new heritage to match those people who are descended from spiritual beings that do not fit the Empyrean/Cambion dichotomy? Perhaps a place Duskwalkers could fit in easily too, and maybe a sakhil-blooded person?

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Virellius wrote:

In a stream it was mentioned that Oni and Rakshasa were not fiends any longer in the traditional sense; they are other kinds of evils.

Given that, what are those descended from them called? Are they still nephillim or will there be a new heritage to match those people who are descended from spiritual beings that do not fit the Empyrean/Cambion dichotomy? Perhaps a place Duskwalkers could fit in easily too, and maybe a sakhil-blooded person?

I'm not 100% sure we've decided that yet, to be honest. If/when we get to presenting those ancestries we'll have more to say, but for now you can assume that the specific NAMES of those options will remain the same, even if in the future they're something other than a nephilim heritage.


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James Jacobs wrote:
Virellius wrote:

In a stream it was mentioned that Oni and Rakshasa were not fiends any longer in the traditional sense; they are other kinds of evils.

Given that, what are those descended from them called? Are they still nephillim or will there be a new heritage to match those people who are descended from spiritual beings that do not fit the Empyrean/Cambion dichotomy? Perhaps a place Duskwalkers could fit in easily too, and maybe a sakhil-blooded person?
I'm not 100% sure we've decided that yet, to be honest. If/when we get to presenting those ancestries we'll have more to say, but for now you can assume that the specific NAMES of those options will remain the same, even if in the future they're something other than a nephilim heritage.

Awesome, thank you! I've got a player planning on running a Hungerseed for Season of Ghosts and I wasn't exactly sure how we should refer to them in-setting. I didn't actually even realize they didn't exist mechanically in 2e at all yet! Any suggestions on what would fit thematically for a homebrew lineage skill feat? I was thinking trained in athletics and/or Oni Lore for the skills.

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Virellius wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Virellius wrote:

In a stream it was mentioned that Oni and Rakshasa were not fiends any longer in the traditional sense; they are other kinds of evils.

Given that, what are those descended from them called? Are they still nephillim or will there be a new heritage to match those people who are descended from spiritual beings that do not fit the Empyrean/Cambion dichotomy? Perhaps a place Duskwalkers could fit in easily too, and maybe a sakhil-blooded person?
I'm not 100% sure we've decided that yet, to be honest. If/when we get to presenting those ancestries we'll have more to say, but for now you can assume that the specific NAMES of those options will remain the same, even if in the future they're something other than a nephilim heritage.
Awesome, thank you! I've got a player planning on running a Hungerseed for Season of Ghosts and I wasn't exactly sure how we should refer to them in-setting. I didn't actually even realize they didn't exist mechanically in 2e at all yet! Any suggestions on what would fit thematically for a homebrew lineage skill feat? I was thinking trained in athletics and/or Oni Lore for the skills.

Good news for you: Season of Ghosts isn't a remastered adventure! That said, using the rules for hungerseed ancestry works fine in any remastered adventure anyway. My suggestion for a player who wants to play a hugnerseed in Season of Ghosts is to just have them adopt the flavor for the ancestry and to NOT take a specific lineage. There's plenty of non-lineage ancestry feats to choose from. All assuming you'd rather avoid homebrewing up a few feats for your player, which is always a great option.

In any case, and a quick spoiler for Season of Ghosts for GMs who are wondering about oni...

Spoiler:
Oni don't play a role in this Adventure Path. They skew higher level than this campaign has a use for! ;-P


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Oh alright yeah that makes a lot of sense. Gives the player a chance to really be unique. Not that you can say much I assume but is there more lore on Golarion's Oni in the Tian Xia book? We're waiting until it comes out to run SoG and the wait is killing me. The AP looks absolutely amazing.


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So the answer is Hungerseed will be their own versatile heritage, per the last Paizo twitch stream.


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I came here to say HEY WAIT A MINUTE lolol. James over here being coy lol. I'm so stoked.


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I admit I'm a little sad they didn't end up crafting a new name for the standalone oni-spawn heritage rather than go with the old oni-tiefling subtitle name, but honestly it's good enough (and definitely a touch deeper than the generic 'oni-spawn' that it might otherwise have been) and if it means getting our half-oni now rather than later I can live with it.

I shall have to inform my hungerseed oni ronin player for when they finally get to make their character for Season of Ghosts.

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