Out of all the most popular exotic weapons (the name for advanced weapons in PF1e) the one that didn't make a return is the estoc. We do have the elven weapons, katana, wakizashi, bastard sword, aldori dueling sword, falcata, spiked chain, and whip which all used to be exotic but... weirdly enough we don't have estoc yet.
I think the core chassis is easy enough to make. Take the rapier, bump the damage die by one step, bump deadly die by one step as well, make it a two-handed weapon if you want it to remain a martial weapon or leave it as one-handed but make it advanced instead, but I feel it lacks some oomph. After all, the only difference between a longsword and a bastard sword in PF1e was that the later had a d10, though in PF2e both weapons although similar don't replace each other so I would want this hyphotetic PF2e estoc to not be just the rapier but better. I would probably remove the disarm trait as well as it isn't the best trait to begin with and it would also help differentiate both weapons a little, but what other traits could fit with the estoc?
From PF1: An estoc is a sword about as long as a bastard sword, but designed exclusively for thrusting attacks. Its “blade” is a steel spike with a triangular, square, or hexagonal crosssection. Like the bastard sword, an estoc requires special training to use it one handed, but it can also be wielded as a two-handed martial weapon. When you wield an estoc with one hand, treat it as a one-handed weapon; when you wield an estoc with two hands, treat it as a two-handed weapon. If you can use the estoc proficiently with one hand, you can also use the Weapon Finesse feat to apply your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier on attack rolls when wielding an estoc sized for you with one or two hands, even though it isn’t a light weapon.
This is pretty close to the historical European estoc. In PF1 it did 2d4 damage, while a rapier did 1d6. A rapier is a dueling weapon. An estoc is most emphatically *not* a dueling weapon. Its purpose was to be thrust into gaps in the enemy's armor, such as around his groin or armpit. Not "better" than the rapier, but with a different purpose.
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two handed rapier with 1d8 base damage and 1d10 deadly to stay simple.
Otherwhise it could be a rapier with the two handed property that puts its base damage up to d10
No disarm property for both since thats not what estocs are for