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Hi,
I'm just planning my first homebrew Pathfinder 2 campaign and need some help in finding the right resources.
Beforehand: I'm pretty familiar with Pathfinder 1 and thus, know most of the pre-4719 lore at least to some degree. I also had the idea for this campaign originally for Pathfinder 1, but I want to update my game, so I'll shift the whole campaign over. Thus, I want to update to the new bits of lore, too. I have a decent amount of mechanics-covering rulebooks for PF2, but I couldn't delve into the LO Lorebooks too much up to now.
The campaign is planned to uncover the secret of Murraseth, or better, to save the world from it. It should become pretty epic. In PF1, I'd have used Mythic rules, but I know there aren't any around for PF2 (yet). So, I have several questions:
1) Is there anything published in canon about the Secret within Murraseth, and if so, in which book? I have read the things in the Extinction Curse AP, but I unfortunately don't own the LO Mwangi book yet (it's on my WL for Xmas, though).
2) Which other resources on eastern Garundi catfolk cultures (and eastern Garundi prehistoric history altogether) are there?
3) Are there any rumours of mythic-type rules coming out? Because if so, I'll wait with playing the campaign with my group yet. I can waste time on entry levels; they're usually progressing very slowly.
Thank you all!
Have fun,
Thali
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Mythic rules for PF2 will come in one year :
The animist and exemplar will appear in the upcoming sourcebook Pathfinder War of Immortals, scheduled for Winter 2024, which also brings new legendary creatures and character options for a wide variety of classes and characters, as well as bringing new mythic rules to Pathfinder!
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Mythic rules for PF2 will come in one year :The animist and exemplar will appear in the upcoming sourcebook Pathfinder War of Immortals, scheduled for Winter 2024, which also brings new legendary creatures and character options for a wide variety of classes and characters, as well as bringing new mythic rules to Pathfinder!
Wohoo, that's great! thank you very much ^^
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I like to think the "Dark Secret" has been genuinely lost for generations, and the ruling elite has been desperately pretending it hasn't while they scramble to rediscover it. Like the old Mystery Cults, it was a secret so well kept that it died with the last people who knew it, and now nobody even remembers what it was, or why they needed to be so isolationist in the first place, but are too afraid of the consequences of changing in case the secret was truly as catastrophic as it was said to be. It may be that it's linked to ancient stories that the Ammurans were created to live on the twilight threshold, holding back the darkness, and that Murraseth lies on one such focal point and only the ancient spell wards of the catfolk are holding something in place - that they were forgotten to prevent their undoing, but in forgetting their purpose is not forgotten and have become a curiosity that wizards have started messing with, and like the Kumaru Tree in Xopatl it is going to have unintended, catastrophic effects. Or perhaps there was never a secret, and that it was started by ancient Amurran aristocrats to justify their rule and retain what power they could when they were forced to abdicate, and what remains of those noble clans don't want to lose the power and prestige that would otherwise be wrested from their grasp.
Whatever the case, if it gets out that the Amurrans' greatest secret has been lost, it risks massive social upheaval and the discrediting of the cities' rulers, so they go to great lengths to ensure anyone investigating it meets a swift end. As they say, curiosity killed the cat.
A cool thought! Perhaps I will implement it (I was thinking into the same direction), but in the campaign, there will be a very real threat in the end.
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I mean the extiction curse one you mentioned is probably most telling one on topic, so let me quote the part I'm referring to:
"Murraseth’s precursor was another catfolk nation, but any information more than this has been scrubbed from all known records. Whatever doomed this progenitor city, it came before Earthfall and drove many of its people to serve enigmatic agents thousands of miles away in the Valashmai Jungle. Strangely, the Age of Darkness was seen as a blessing by most amurruns, who rebuilt their nation and renamed it Murraseth under a series of sister-queens. Catfolk claim they have avoided repeating the downfall of the past by destroying all records of the mysterious schism and declaring a refuge at the heart of their lands forbidden to all but the royal family and chosen mystics. The catfolk’s dark secret—if there truly is one—supposedly lies within this refuge."
So basically what we know is that whatever happened to their original nation, they ended up being servants of the alien giant reptilian humanoids from Valashmai Jungle before that civilization was destroyed?(yeah there was interstellar gigantic reptilian civilization there that miiiiight have brought grippli with them to the planet)
(we will likely find bit more info on those in lost omens tian xia book)
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Playing off the notion that cats were charged to ward against *something* (from ancient Egypt to Lovecrafts Cats of Ulthar to that horrible Stephen King movie Sleepwalkers), perhaps that 'something' bumped back and wiped the first catfolk civilization out, for trying to stop them / interfering with their plans.
What was the 'something' though?
Something from the Dark Tapestry, maybe something that can sorta pass for other races it's infiltrating / infesting, but catfolk's keen senses can identity? (Making the catfolk a threat to the invaders, even if the catfolk weren't specifically out to get them.)
Some sort of ghoul or vampire civilization? (A ghoul civilization works well with the Lovecraftian theme. A vampire one kind of fits how Egyptians sometimes saw cats as protectors of the home (from rats, mostly) and also specifically, protectors *in the night.*)
Was there a cat-god(dess) involved, or a catfolk Empyreal, or just a beloved leader who is falsely remembered to have some sort of divine mandate/blessing that got snuffed for leading the racial charge against the Other? (Or, worse, subverted and lured into serving the dark nasty, taking many of their devotees with them? Big secret there, a former celestial figure of reverence or legendary race leader turning to serve the threat they were meant to fight! Bigger secret, if the body of the great leader, still remembered by the common folk in reverence, all mention of their turn to the dark scrupulously scrubbed from history, lies in the refuge, bearing visible signs of corruption by the forces they surrendered to in life...)
Playing off the notion that cats were charged to ward against *something* (from ancient Egypt to Lovecrafts Cats of Ulthar to that horrible Stephen King movie Sleepwalkers), perhaps that 'something' bumped back and wiped the first catfolk civilization out, for trying to stop them / interfering with their plans.
What was the 'something' though?
Something from the Dark Tapestry, maybe something that can sorta pass for other races it's infiltrating / infesting, but catfolk's keen senses can identity? (Making the catfolk a threat to the invaders, even if the catfolk weren't specifically out to get them.)
Some sort of ghoul or vampire civilization? (A ghoul civilization works well with the Lovecraftian theme. A vampire one kind of fits how Egyptians sometimes saw cats as protectors of the home (from rats, mostly) and also specifically, protectors *in the night.*)
Was there a cat-god(dess) involved, or a catfolk Empyreal, or just a beloved leader who is falsely remembered to have some sort of divine mandate/blessing that got snuffed for leading the racial charge against the Other? (Or, worse, subverted and lured into serving the dark nasty, taking many of their devotees with them? Big secret there, a former celestial figure of reverence or legendary race leader turning to serve the threat they were meant to fight! Bigger secret, if the body of the great leader, still remembered by the common folk in reverence, all mention of their turn to the dark scrupulously scrubbed from history, lies in the refuge, bearing visible signs of corruption by the forces they surrendered to in life...)
...I liked sleepwalkers...