GM Zoomba's Trapping the Hag's Claw [Low Tier] Discussion

[GM Zoomba]

Discussion thread!

Please check in below with your:

Character name:
Level:
PFS #:
Faction you're repping for this mission:
Any Season 4 scenarios you've played and have the chronicle for on this character:

Also if you have any GM glyphs to apply here, or any weird character element (especially important passive abilities like Trap Spotter) I should know about please let me know that as well!

[Emmanuel Holysmith]

Thank you for hosting this game, GM.

Character name: Emmanuel Holysmith
Level: 7
PFS #: 133608-2001
Faction you're repping for this mission: Envoy's Alliance
Any Season 4 scenarios you've played and have the chronicle for on this character: None for this character.

I have 2 GM Glyphs, to give to the lowest level PCs.
1 is Atae, 2 is Itka, 3 is Anjo: 2d3 ⇒ (1, 3) = 4

Atae and Anjo get a Hero Point.

[Atae]

Let me get my info up! Thanks for running this DM~

[Anjo Aroh]

Here. FYI, level 8

[Emmanuel Holysmith]

I'll finish updating my character later today. I was a sick for a few days.

Manny has the >Opportunist< Feat, so he can make Reactive Strikes/Attacks of Opportunity with his 10 foot whip.

I'll have to reread everything about Remastered Bards & Fighters, but Manny is still following the old rules.

Manny will use >Illusory Creature< to "summon" his Guardian Angel, Shylye. She's quick to remind everyone that she's just an illusion. And definitely not a loophole to reveal herself without getting in trouble with the higher ups.

[Kalderaan A'mandi]

Character name: Kalderaan A'Mandi
Level: 8
PFS #:
Faction you're repping for this mission:
Any Season 4 scenarios you've played and have the chronicle for on this character: 4-17

After digging through my chronicles, the last one I played is the module you are running. :(

I apologize for the error. I hope someone else from the recruitment page can take the slot.

[Zabu "Daggertooth" Creed]

Thanks for helping with the feeding frenzy, GM! My head would have exploded when the 7th person tried to get in on the action.

Character name: Zabu "Daggertooth" Creed
Level: 8
PFS #: 143948-2002
Faction you're repping for this mission: Horizon Hunters
Any Season 4 scenarios you've played and have the chronicle for on this character:
4-99 Blessings of the Forest
4-06 Signal from the Electric Laboratory

[Anjo Aroh]

Wait, are we using remastered rules now ?

[Emmanuel Holysmith]

>PFS rules for Remaster<

It's... complicated, but yes the new Remaster rules are in effect.

We all have a free rebuild that we can use to remake our characters in Remaster format. The old rules still work unless they were reprinted in the Remaster.

As I just got the Remaster PDF, I plan to play Manny under the old rules and make updates as needed. Once I hit level 8 (which will be right after this game) I'll rebuild him fully.

[GM Zoomba]

Yeah - the remaster is technically live now, but there will be a transition period. (Thanks very much for providing the link Manny!)

I plan to be fairly lenient/understanding as everyone slowly figures out the various minor changes that may come into play, especially for games like this happening right as it launches.

Kalderaan - fair enough! I may check in with some of the others in that thread after work.

Zabu - ha, yes! It’s sometimes hard to gauge which scenarios will prompt a feeding frenzy vs which can slowly struggle to fill. Luckily running the same scenario twice is less complicated than two different ones, so on occasion when I have the bandwidth (like now seems to be) if there’s this heavy interest I try to see if I can get multiple groups satisfied.

[Itka Biklest]

Character name: Itka Biklest
Level: Witch 7
PFS #: 289224-2003
Faction you're repping for this mission: Vigilant Seal
Any Season 4 scenarios you've played and have the chronicle for on this character: None so far.

I haven't had a chance to look at the Remaster rules yet. The next two weeks are going to be full of RL stuff, so while I'll have time to post most days, reading a rulebook is going to be low on my priority list.

I might not be able to post this Saturday, but should be able to post again by Sunday evening.

[Anjo Aroh]

Where do we find all the actual rule changes?

[Atae]

Any suggestions for her spells?

[Atae]

I have 2 glyps, one for Manny and the other for Zabu, unless someone does not get an extra one.

[Anjo Aroh]

Finally checked my character

Character name: Anjo Aroh
Level: 8
PFS #: 43870-2001
Faction you're repping for this mission: Vig Seal
Any Season 4 scenarios you've played and have the chronicle for on this character: 4-99 Blessing of the Forest

Gong to add some purchases with my 1200+ gp

Resilient property rune = 340 gp
Shifting my Beast Bane weapon rune to my Bastard sword = ?
Purchasing a Flaming Rune on Composite longbow =500gp
Concealable Thieve's Tools = 80gp (do I have to sell the common ones or do I just pay the difference?)

[Emmanuel Holysmith]

For the rule changes, your options are:
- Buy the PDFs right now
- Buy the physical books and wait for shipment
- Wait for Archives of Nethys to update their webpage with the Remaster rules

[BakBat]

Character name: BakBat
Level: 7
PFS #: 5369-2001
Faction you're repping for this mission: Vigilant Seal
Any Season 4 scenarios you've played and have the chronicle for on this character:
4-04 and 4-99

[GM Zoomba]

And we're off! Well, 'started'. Technically you haven't even left the Grand Lodge yet :)

I have posted a link to the Slides we'll be using for maps/handouts/etc at the top of the campaign and in my profile header. If you can add your preferred token images to it when you have a chance please do so.

At the top of the campaign there is also a link to a Sheets doc for Skills and saves. If you could please fill out your characters' bonuses on one of those tabs, it would be greatly appreciated as it is a useful tool for me as a GM to be able to not only quickly roll Initiatives, but also quickly get needed info for any Secret Checks that may arise all credit to HMM who was the one to introduce me to that trick for PbP, and if they in turn got it from someone else all credit to that person as well :)

Zabu:

In your table of 4-06, what did your table do about Revecka? (should be noted on your chronicle if you don't recall)

[Atae]

Character name: Atae
Level: 7
PFS #:43330-2010
Faction you're repping for this mission: Envoy's Alliance
Any Season 4 scenarios you've played and have the chronicle for on this character: Nada

[Itka Biklest]

I'm going on a camping trip this weekend, so I won't be able to post from Saturday until later on Sunday.

[Atae]

Thank you for putting the new PFS material online for us!
Are there any divine spells that can help against mental damage?

[GM Zoomba]

Anjo Aroh wrote:

"Is there anything we can do to protect ourselves from all he hags mental attacks?"

Atae wrote:

Are there any divine spells that can help against mental damage?

Both good questions. Beyond general spells or effects that would boost your saves or Will saves in general, certain spells like Soothe (Occult only sadly) or items like serene Mutagens give extra bonuses specifically agaisnt mental effects.

Resistance to Mental Damage is rare - I know of a boon that could grant it (from the Playtest) and a few specific class feats or situations but nothing I can recall that is easily available.

[Atae]

She has a 1st lvl Sooth spell because of her levels in Captivator.

I would hope that they would fix that archetype dedication feat to be 2nd rather than 4th level.

[Emmanuel Holysmith]

I didn't expect them to refer to the old PF1e scenario involving Thurl.

[Itka Biklest]

Question for the players: Itka has prepared one casting of Seal Fate. The spell can give weakness to one type of damage. Which type should it be?

Her other spells:

Cantrips (4th rank): Detect Magic, Guidance, Prestidigitation, Read Aura, Shield, Telekinetic Projectile
1st: Mage Armor, Soothe (2)
2nd: Dispel Magic, Faerie Fire, Warrior's Regret
3rd: Circle of Protection, Heroism, Slow
4th: Phantasmal Killer, Seal Fate

She also has one 1st rank Soothe scroll.

[Emmanuel Holysmith]

Set it to whatever Zabu does best. Slashing?
Then again, Anjo's arrows can exploit a piercing weakness pretty easily.

[BakBat]

BakBat likes fire, but weakness to piercing looks strong if we have an archer and certain kinds of stabby folk.

[GM Zoomba]

Emmanuel Holysmith wrote:

GM, will >Glad-Hand< apply when I make Diplomacy checks?

Fair question, but I'm going to say it would not apply here. This situation and subsystem are not just about getting the NPCs to like you personally, but to demonstrate the value of working together with the Pathfinder Society

[Itka Biklest]

Looks like Anjo has the best Perception modifier of all of us (+17), so is the most likely to be able to Discover what skills to use. Itka only has +11.

[GM Zoomba]

One key reminder (as it's a relevant option for at least some of these Dsicovery and Influence checks): as part of the Remaster rules, all PFS characters are automatically Trained in Pathfinder Society Lore.

...which still may not be the best choice for some of the more... Int-deficient members of the party, but for others a bonus skill for you to be aware you have.

[Anjo Aroh]

Sorry, didn't see this post until I had rolled to help Revecka. I can do some Perception next. Just tell me who to watch.

[Atae]

Do I bother making the deception check or has that ship sailed?

[GM Zoomba]

I ended up rolling it for you here (mis-stating it as 'Star''s attempt: whoops!)

The Deception attempt didn't seem that effective; while you were talking to her Revecka didn't actually seem to care that much about flattery. Maybe Zabu's impression was wrong...

[GM Zoomba]

Also I added the planned trap site to Slide 6.

The 'water' on the very-dry-desert-not-at-all-a-flipmat-with-an-oasis represents where the portal to Zarta's dreamscape will form.

[GM Zoomba]

For those in the US, happy Thanksgiving!

For those not, happy Thursday! (weekend's almost here....)

[GM Zoomba]

It's been a bit: handing out a Hero Point to Manny and one to Itka

[Itka Biklest]

Thanks!

[Atae]

Is there an action she can use to try to disbelieve if this is an illusion?

[GM Zoomba]

To examine something to see what's up with a thing/notice if an illusion is involved would be the Seek action

[Atae]

Thank you, the reason I ask is because I thought night hags were also fiendish.

[Itka Biklest]

I'm chaperoning a field trip today, so I'll post later this afternoon or evening.

[GM Zoomba]

Gotcha! Anywhere exciting?

[Itka Biklest]

The 8th grade language arts classes went to see "The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes". Whenever characters acted romantically, the theater erupted in hoots, cheers, groans, and all manner of reactions. It was amusing.

[Atae]

That sounds fun. 5 or 6 of our 6th grade boys were caught looking at and searching for porn after state testing this week.

[Itka Biklest]

The internet provides all things. <facepalm>

[Atae]

The sad thing is the student who instigated it was already on a BIP for numerous referrals and the dad is fighting against the kid being punished for this.

[GM Zoomba]

Anjo Aroh wrote:

A little confused myself. I am only seeing green near Bakbat, but green is after me in init...?

Again, real apologies for that mess-up. Amateurish mistake on my end. I tried to rewind/redo as smoothly as possible (Manny being confused and thus performing only a pretty specific set of actions helps tremendously) and did re-check all of Manny's rolls to confirm the Frightened condition wouldn't have changed any of them (since it wouldn't have actually happened until 'after' your turn).

[Emmanuel Holysmith]

2e confusion is much more predictable than 1e confusion...

[Atae]

I think she likes Manny better this way, lol.

[GM Zoomba]

Handing out a Hero Point to Atae - powerful fiend-killing rays (that sadly were aimed at a flase-fiend), key helaing magic, and creative anti-confusion tech all brought to bear boldly in that encounter.