Zero's: #4-04 To Seek the Heart of Calamity Discussion [PaizoCon]


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Vigilant Seal

Male Catfolk M Catfolk Investigator 5 | Hp 53 /53| AC 23 | F +8 (T), R +13 (E), W +10 (E) | Perception +10 (E) | (Will Shoot his bow if botted)

A couple of questions for our GM before I commit to Theo's actions.

1) Which skill is relevant for Recall Knowledge here?

2) Presuming that this location is significantly relevant to discovering the secret behind the Dagger (The Lead that Theo has been Pursuing), that should allow him to use his Devise a Strategem ability as a free action.
Is this correct?


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For knowledge about the elementals? Either Arcana or Nature, or related Lore of course.

The location is relevant, though I'm not sure the elementary are quite the subject... good enough for me!

Vigilant Seal

Male Catfolk M Catfolk Investigator 5 | Hp 53 /53| AC 23 | F +8 (T), R +13 (E), W +10 (E) | Perception +10 (E) | (Will Shoot his bow if botted)

Also, for RK checks, do you want to roll them secretly or do we roll in the open to avoid bogging down play?

I'll provide the bonus for this one.
Arcana +10


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I'm flexible. And if you want to specify what type of information you hope to gain I'll usually honor it.

(And if I don't, it's usually because there's something I'm pretty sure you'd have wanted to know if you'd've known to ask for it.)

Vigilant Seal

Male Catfolk M Catfolk Investigator 5 | Hp 53 /53| AC 23 | F +8 (T), R +13 (E), W +10 (E) | Perception +10 (E) | (Will Shoot his bow if botted)

Generally, when I have a PC make an RK check, I'll leave it up to the GM's discretion on the info provided.

Horizon Hunters

Icons: ◆◇↺ | Tome Skills - Athletics (E) +11, Thievery (E) +14 | Half-Elf(Cave) Thaumaturge (Darkvision)| HP 78/78 | AC 24 | F +12(E) R +14(E) W +11(E) | Expert Perception +11 | Hero Points 0/1 | Exploration: Search| Bot: Demoralize/Exploit if needed, Attack with Chakram(20ft)/Boomerang(60ft) | Esoteric Warden, Sympathetic Vulnerabilities, Diverse Lore, Unmistakable Lore, Fast Healing 1/min

Well, new levels, new questions.

Regarding the Tome Implement of the Thaumaturge, I've read different interpretations on how it works, so I'd love to have your takes/rulings on it.

About the 7th level benefit of the Tome ... is it a free action at the start of your turn or do you need to burn an action for what it would be a forced recall knowledge?

Also, at the start of combat, you are supposed to burn one action to get your first implement out, right? (though its a free action to swap them in order to use their actions or reactions, it still says you need to have one in your hand first).

So, maybe you can help me understand all of this better. As far as I understand, I can have my Tome out and if someone would trigger my weapon reaction I can just switch them both on the fly and use it (the reaction) and then switch it back to Tome to get the free RK at the start of my turn.

Metagaming wise, shouldn't you be able to always have your mirror out since the art of the implement itself is a buckler? O.o


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It's at the start of your turn, so it's not an action.
You could have your implement out in basically the same situations where you'd have your weapon out. Is that here? Up to you. You knew you were approaching the site, so it might be reasonable.

Vigilant Seal

Male Catfolk M Catfolk Investigator 5 | Hp 53 /53| AC 23 | F +8 (T), R +13 (E), W +10 (E) | Perception +10 (E) | (Will Shoot his bow if botted)

In case it matters...

Theo's 1st attack was against the frightened, clumsy red living landslide.
Maybe a roll of 17 hits?

He then moved & shot the 2nd arrow at the blue stone horse.


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Still not quite, though now you mention it I did describe the wrong enemy there. I'll fix it.

Horizon Hunters

Icons: ◆◇↺ | Tome Skills - Athletics (E) +11, Thievery (E) +14 | Half-Elf(Cave) Thaumaturge (Darkvision)| HP 78/78 | AC 24 | F +12(E) R +14(E) W +11(E) | Expert Perception +11 | Hero Points 0/1 | Exploration: Search| Bot: Demoralize/Exploit if needed, Attack with Chakram(20ft)/Boomerang(60ft) | Esoteric Warden, Sympathetic Vulnerabilities, Diverse Lore, Unmistakable Lore, Fast Healing 1/min

A 20 followed by a 1. That's funny.


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Is the +4 for weakness? +2 Str +4 Implement's Empowerment = +6?

Horizon Hunters

Icons: ◆◇↺ | Tome Skills - Athletics (E) +11, Thievery (E) +14 | Half-Elf(Cave) Thaumaturge (Darkvision)| HP 78/78 | AC 24 | F +12(E) R +14(E) W +11(E) | Expert Perception +11 | Hero Points 0/1 | Exploration: Search| Bot: Demoralize/Exploit if needed, Attack with Chakram(20ft)/Boomerang(60ft) | Esoteric Warden, Sympathetic Vulnerabilities, Diverse Lore, Unmistakable Lore, Fast Healing 1/min

Yeah. No idea why I put a +5 in there, it's +6. :blush:

Horizon Hunters

Icons: ◆◇↺ | Tome Skills - Athletics (E) +11, Thievery (E) +14 | Half-Elf(Cave) Thaumaturge (Darkvision)| HP 78/78 | AC 24 | F +12(E) R +14(E) W +11(E) | Expert Perception +11 | Hero Points 0/1 | Exploration: Search| Bot: Demoralize/Exploit if needed, Attack with Chakram(20ft)/Boomerang(60ft) | Esoteric Warden, Sympathetic Vulnerabilities, Diverse Lore, Unmistakable Lore, Fast Healing 1/min

Angvim will never know what hit him with those recall knowledge checks ... =)

Vigilant Seal

Male Catfolk M Catfolk Investigator 5 | Hp 53 /53| AC 23 | F +8 (T), R +13 (E), W +10 (E) | Perception +10 (E) | (Will Shoot his bow if botted)

If I was using real dice that performed this poorly, they'd be headed for the grinder in my garage.


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Is there supposed to be a set of rolls for a second attack, Snarlfist? You list two attacks but I only see details for one.

Vigilant Seal

M Hobgoblin Medic 6 | Hp 63/86| AC 24 (Deny Advantage) (+2 Nimble Dodge) | F +12 (T), R +11 (E), W +9(E) | Perception +9 (E) | (Will Nimble Dodge or Resist Elf Magic at first opportunity)

Sorry, was stride, stride, Skirmish strike, action summary is incorrect. Thanks for asking.


OBOZAYA | Female N Vesk Mercenary Soldier 4 | SP 32/32 HP 34/34 P 5/5 | EAC 21 KAC 23| Fortitude +5, Reflex +4, Will +4 (+2 vs. fear) | Perception +0 | Speed 35 | Mk 1 Serum of Healing 1/1, Medpatch 1/1, Shock Grenade I 2/2 | Active Conditions: None

Was thinking in terms of 1E trample, where you have to pick save or AOO.

I will be traveling until Saturday and likely will not be able to post. Please bot as necessary - Seelah should not be complicated (try to protect the weakest party member and hit many foes).


Pathfinder Provisions ◆◇↺

I should award a Hero Point.

To... Theo.

Although your group really hasn't spent many of them, either. But the person who has was Theo, so I'll stand by that.

Vigilant Seal

Male Catfolk M Catfolk Investigator 5 | Hp 53 /53| AC 23 | F +8 (T), R +13 (E), W +10 (E) | Perception +10 (E) | (Will Shoot his bow if botted)
GM Super Zero wrote:

I should award a Hero Point.

To... Theo.

Although your group really hasn't spent many of them, either. But the person who has was Theo, so I'll stand by that.

Thanks.

Horizon Hunters

Icons: ◆◇↺ | Tome Skills - Athletics (E) +11, Thievery (E) +14 | Half-Elf(Cave) Thaumaturge (Darkvision)| HP 78/78 | AC 24 | F +12(E) R +14(E) W +11(E) | Expert Perception +11 | Hero Points 0/1 | Exploration: Search| Bot: Demoralize/Exploit if needed, Attack with Chakram(20ft)/Boomerang(60ft) | Esoteric Warden, Sympathetic Vulnerabilities, Diverse Lore, Unmistakable Lore, Fast Healing 1/min

I was going to ask if Theo had any hero points remaining to make that check and not going into dying 4. Good to know =)

Let's kill these bastards!
Man, medicine is really a weak point for Angvim. +0? Sheesh!

Horizon Hunters

Icons: ◆◇↺ | Tome Skills - Athletics (E) +11, Thievery (E) +14 | Half-Elf(Cave) Thaumaturge (Darkvision)| HP 78/78 | AC 24 | F +12(E) R +14(E) W +11(E) | Expert Perception +11 | Hero Points 0/1 | Exploration: Search| Bot: Demoralize/Exploit if needed, Attack with Chakram(20ft)/Boomerang(60ft) | Esoteric Warden, Sympathetic Vulnerabilities, Diverse Lore, Unmistakable Lore, Fast Healing 1/min

Well, the next one to roll RK should get a 3 on the dice.

Horizon Hunters

Female Elf (Changeling) | HP 78/78 | AC 24/25 | F +12 R +14 W +10 | Perc +10 | Stealth +14 | speed 35 | Hero 1/3 | Active Conditions: ---

Are we able to bring Sputnik with us?

Horizon Hunters

Icons: ◆◇↺ | Tome Skills - Athletics (E) +11, Thievery (E) +14 | Half-Elf(Cave) Thaumaturge (Darkvision)| HP 78/78 | AC 24 | F +12(E) R +14(E) W +11(E) | Expert Perception +11 | Hero Points 0/1 | Exploration: Search| Bot: Demoralize/Exploit if needed, Attack with Chakram(20ft)/Boomerang(60ft) | Esoteric Warden, Sympathetic Vulnerabilities, Diverse Lore, Unmistakable Lore, Fast Healing 1/min

LOL


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Too big to efficiently carry, though you could take the rods.


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So many crits...

Horizon Hunters

Icons: ◆◇↺ | Tome Skills - Athletics (E) +11, Thievery (E) +14 | Half-Elf(Cave) Thaumaturge (Darkvision)| HP 78/78 | AC 24 | F +12(E) R +14(E) W +11(E) | Expert Perception +11 | Hero Points 0/1 | Exploration: Search| Bot: Demoralize/Exploit if needed, Attack with Chakram(20ft)/Boomerang(60ft) | Esoteric Warden, Sympathetic Vulnerabilities, Diverse Lore, Unmistakable Lore, Fast Healing 1/min

It seems you missed my post ... It was right before the one you made on wednesday.


Pathfinder Provisions ◆◇↺

So I did. I apologize.

And you crit too, of course. Though I did make up for that by critting for you in my botting post.


Pathfinder Provisions ◆◇↺

I know it's been a while OoC (and IC in this case, actually).
So, a brief recap of your mission objectives:

The Society knows that the calamitous dagger they found is linked to a lost war machine that still seems to be active. They wanted you to find it. However the dagger was also pointing at something else in the area that was causing interference, so you needed to find and disable that first. Find the war machine and protect it from Aslyn's forces.
For the Grand Archive, Zarta wanted you to find and carefully study everything that the dagger could locate. You'd need to travel to the fourth site for this, but you already destroyed one of the sites without studying it and so can't accomplish this any way.
For the Vigilant Seal, Eando Kline asked you to disable any interference ASAP and get to the war machine before Aslyn's forces. You just accomplished this, which means you have a little time to investigate.

Kline acknowledged that he and Zarta asked for opposite things, and promised both would trust your judgement when you decided which priority to take.

And Theo--you've only Pursued one Lead. Remember you can have two.

Vigilant Seal

Male Catfolk M Catfolk Investigator 5 | Hp 53 /53| AC 23 | F +8 (T), R +13 (E), W +10 (E) | Perception +10 (E) | (Will Shoot his bow if botted)

Noted re: Pursue a Lead.
Just need to decide what Lead #2 should be.


OBOZAYA | Female N Vesk Mercenary Soldier 4 | SP 32/32 HP 34/34 P 5/5 | EAC 21 KAC 23| Fortitude +5, Reflex +4, Will +4 (+2 vs. fear) | Perception +0 | Speed 35 | Mk 1 Serum of Healing 1/1, Medpatch 1/1, Shock Grenade I 2/2 | Active Conditions: None

I think Snarlfist ninja'd the GM.

Vigilant Seal

M Hobgoblin Medic 6 | Hp 63/86| AC 24 (Deny Advantage) (+2 Nimble Dodge) | F +12 (T), R +11 (E), W +9(E) | Perception +9 (E) | (Will Nimble Dodge or Resist Elf Magic at first opportunity)

Us pirates can be very stealthy.


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Indeed. But I'm at work and had to write turns for three enemies, so it was a minute before I could get to it.

Horizon Hunters

Monday and tuesday will be slow for me as I'm traveling since friday, so please bot me as needed. I will try and connect, but I can't promise anthing.


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We're nearing both the end of the scenario and the deadline by which I have to submit to HQ regardless. So, either way...

If you want to do rolls for downtime to appear on your Chronicle, go ahead and do that now.

Kaz Fortune-Telling Lore: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (10) + 7 = 17


OBOZAYA | Female N Vesk Mercenary Soldier 4 | SP 32/32 HP 34/34 P 5/5 | EAC 21 KAC 23| Fortitude +5, Reflex +4, Will +4 (+2 vs. fear) | Perception +0 | Speed 35 | Mk 1 Serum of Healing 1/1, Medpatch 1/1, Shock Grenade I 2/2 | Active Conditions: None

Performance (T), DC 18: 1d20 + 10 ⇒ (4) + 10 = 14

Horizon Hunters

Icons: ◆◇↺ | Tome Skills - Athletics (E) +11, Thievery (E) +14 | Half-Elf(Cave) Thaumaturge (Darkvision)| HP 78/78 | AC 24 | F +12(E) R +14(E) W +11(E) | Expert Perception +11 | Hero Points 0/1 | Exploration: Search| Bot: Demoralize/Exploit if needed, Attack with Chakram(20ft)/Boomerang(60ft) | Esoteric Warden, Sympathetic Vulnerabilities, Diverse Lore, Unmistakable Lore, Fast Healing 1/min

Storied Talent Boon: Roll income at Level -0

Esoteric Lore(E): 1d20 + 13 ⇒ (18) + 13 = 31

A crit! So that's 2gp x 8 days?

Esoteric Lore(E), Field Commisioned 4 days: 1d20 + 13 ⇒ (12) + 13 = 25

Envoy's Alliance

”Murph” | Male gnome rogue 7 (Advanced Player's Guide) | HP 78/78 | AC 25 | Fort +11; Ref +17 (Successes are crit successes instead.); Will +13; +2 circumstance bonus vs. traps or devices you failed to disarm | Perc +15 | Default Exploration ( Searching) | Speed 25ft | Focus points0/0 | Hero Points 1/1 | Harmonic Wayfinder 1/1 | Active Conditions: None

Murph doesn't have anything fancy for earning income

Scouting Lore to Earn income at level -2= level 4: 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (20) + 11 = 31

Crit! I think that means 72 SP

Horizon Hunters

Female Elf (Changeling) | HP 78/78 | AC 24/25 | F +12 R +14 W +10 | Perc +10 | Stealth +14 | speed 35 | Hero 1/3 | Active Conditions: ---

Performance: 1d20 + 12 ⇒ (7) + 12 = 19


Pathfinder Provisions ◆◇↺

Wow, that went pretty quick once you decided to focus on her. After the first few unfortunate concealment rolls.

Horizon Hunters

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Icons: ◆◇↺ | Tome Skills - Athletics (E) +11, Thievery (E) +14 | Half-Elf(Cave) Thaumaturge (Darkvision)| HP 78/78 | AC 24 | F +12(E) R +14(E) W +11(E) | Expert Perception +11 | Hero Points 0/1 | Exploration: Search| Bot: Demoralize/Exploit if needed, Attack with Chakram(20ft)/Boomerang(60ft) | Esoteric Warden, Sympathetic Vulnerabilities, Diverse Lore, Unmistakable Lore, Fast Healing 1/min

Quite so. That 'sensible chuckle' had me laughing at the end too.

Vigilant Seal

Male Catfolk M Catfolk Investigator 5 | Hp 53 /53| AC 23 | F +8 (T), R +13 (E), W +10 (E) | Perception +10 (E) | (Will Shoot his bow if botted)

I think that Theo's going after Crafting for his Downtime this time.

downtime DC16 for L2 task: 1d20 + 10 ⇒ (18) + 10 = 28

So, a Crit at L2 becomes 5sp/day.
Thus, 40sp for his 8 days.

Grand Lodge

NG Male Human Educator

Y'all roll a lot of crits.

Vigilant Seal

Male Catfolk M Catfolk Investigator 5 | Hp 53 /53| AC 23 | F +8 (T), R +13 (E), W +10 (E) | Perception +10 (E) | (Will Shoot his bow if botted)

On the off chance that you plan to run the 2nd part of the Calamitous Dagger missions (4-08), please drop me a message - I'd love to play with this crew again.

Extra bonus - this mission is enough to bump Theo from L4 to L5.


OBOZAYA | Female N Vesk Mercenary Soldier 4 | SP 32/32 HP 34/34 P 5/5 | EAC 21 KAC 23| Fortitude +5, Reflex +4, Will +4 (+2 vs. fear) | Perception +0 | Speed 35 | Mk 1 Serum of Healing 1/1, Medpatch 1/1, Shock Grenade I 2/2 | Active Conditions: None

I would also be interested in 4-08, and my normal champion should be free for it.


Pathfinder Provisions ◆◇↺

I do have that one. It was the other scenario I was assigned for PaizoCon that didn't fire. It's a 3-6.

Let's see...

The party convinced Star of their good intentions (sort of? You technically never did that, but you didn't have to because you won the race so Sounrel never lied to them in the first place), so I check box A.
Sounrel died, so I check box D.

You completed your primary objective by finding Star's location and defeating Sounrel's forces.
You completed your secondary objective by reaching Star before Sounrel's forces or convincing them of your good intentions (see, here they're listed as two separate things...).

You completed the Vigilant Seal faction goal by reaching Star in 16 days or fewer (exactly!). You did not complete the Grand Archive faction goal, but you were told in advance the faction leaders knew their goals were mutually exclusive and completing both was impossible.

For defeating the scorpions, you earn two treasure bundles.
For finding the merchants' lost wares (in the quicksand), you earn two treasure bundles.
For visiting the ruin sites and oasis, you earn one treasure bundle each for a maximum of three.
For defeating Sounrel's forces, you earn three treasure bundles.

Envoy's Alliance

”Murph” | Male gnome rogue 7 (Advanced Player's Guide) | HP 78/78 | AC 25 | Fort +11; Ref +17 (Successes are crit successes instead.); Will +13; +2 circumstance bonus vs. traps or devices you failed to disarm | Perc +15 | Default Exploration ( Searching) | Speed 25ft | Focus points0/0 | Hero Points 1/1 | Harmonic Wayfinder 1/1 | Active Conditions: None

I am also interested if you run the second part.

Horizon Hunters

Icons: ◆◇↺ | Tome Skills - Athletics (E) +11, Thievery (E) +14 | Half-Elf(Cave) Thaumaturge (Darkvision)| HP 78/78 | AC 24 | F +12(E) R +14(E) W +11(E) | Expert Perception +11 | Hero Points 0/1 | Exploration: Search| Bot: Demoralize/Exploit if needed, Attack with Chakram(20ft)/Boomerang(60ft) | Esoteric Warden, Sympathetic Vulnerabilities, Diverse Lore, Unmistakable Lore, Fast Healing 1/min

Count me in if its happening =)

Horizon Hunters

Female Elf (Changeling) | HP 78/78 | AC 24/25 | F +12 R +14 W +10 | Perc +10 | Stealth +14 | speed 35 | Hero 1/3 | Active Conditions: ---

Ooo, a sequel! Gotta see how this ends!

Grand Lodge

NG Male Human Educator

Chronicles distributed.

And, uh... give me a few days, but anyone who wants to continue with Battle for Star's Fate can sign up here.

Vigilant Seal

M Hobgoblin Medic 6 | Hp 63/86| AC 24 (Deny Advantage) (+2 Nimble Dodge) | F +12 (T), R +11 (E), W +9(E) | Perception +9 (E) | (Will Nimble Dodge or Resist Elf Magic at first opportunity)

I've already played and GMed the sequel.

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