I just want my shield to come back when I throw it.

[Sagian]

Is the meteor shield a thrown weapon or shield? Can I attaché the returning rune to like weapon or for that matter a plus 1 rune? What if I had a shield bash, can that have returning rune? Is there any answer other than no?

[Errenor]

Treasure Vault pg. 221 wrote:

When thrown, the shield is a martial thrown ranged weapon. Its damage dice and type are the same as its shield bash attack, but if the shield includes an attached weapon or integrated weapon, you can choose to attack with it instead when you throw the shield. You add your Strength modifier to damage, as typical of a thrown weapon. The trait also includes the range increment.

https://2e.aonprd.com/Shields.aspx?ID=13

https://2e.aonprd.com/Traits.aspx?ID=490
Yes, you can put runes on it, and the only relevant ones are such that work with martial thrown ranged weapons. Possible attached weapons or integrated weapons could have their own rune sets, and if you chose to attack with them, only their runes would work, so no Returning as it only goes on thrown weapons.

[YuriP]

I don't know why you can't put Returning in a Meteor Shield or any other shield with Shield Throw trait.

The trait says "When thrown, the shield is a martial thrown ranged weapon". I don't know why we cannont consider it valid for use Returning rune in it. For most exigent GMs you can add Shield Boss on it.

[breithauptclan]

Also, Shield Augmentation, which is the other way to get a shield with the thrown trait, explicitly says that it can be etched with weapon runes.

It may be a bit ambiguous considering that the Meteor Shield and the Shield Throw trait don't actually explicitly say that runes can be applied - but the intent is pretty clear.

[breithauptclan]

Errenor wrote:

Yes, you can put runes on it, and the only relevant ones are such that work with martial thrown ranged weapons. Possible attached weapons or integrated weapons could have their own rune sets, and if you chose to attack with them, only their runes would work, so no Returning as it only goes on thrown weapons.

You can put a Returning rune on a dagger. Not because it is a throw weapon, but because it is a melee weapon with the thrown trait.

The same should apply to shields. If you have a shield with the thrown trait, you can put a Returning rune on it - which will be active and effective when you use the shield as a thrown weapon, same as a dagger.

[Errenor]

breithauptclan wrote:

You can...

Did I post something to the contrary? I could be not very clear, but I don't see contradictions.

[jcheung]

i read yours as "no, you can't because it's not a thrown weapon"
breith's and yurip's are "yes, because the shield has the thrown trait". which i agree with. it's still a ranged thrown weapon as well as a shield

[Captain Arcadia]

Quote:

I just want my shield to return when I throw it.

I know the feeling. ;)

[breithauptclan]

Errenor wrote:

breithauptclan wrote:

You can...

Did I post something to the contrary? I could be not very clear, but I don't see contradictions.

I read this:

Quote:

no Returning as it only goes on thrown weapons.

as meaning that you were saying that melee weapon runes could be put on a shield, but it wouldn't work to put a Returning rune on them.

[Errenor]

breithauptclan wrote:

Errenor wrote:

breithauptclan wrote:

You can...

Did I post something to the contrary? I could be not very clear, but I don't see contradictions.

I read this:

Quote:

no Returning as it only goes on thrown weapons.

as meaning that you were saying that melee weapon runes could be put on a shield, but it wouldn't work to put a Returning rune on them.

It's a sentence about 'possible attached weapons or integrated weapons' meaning Shield Boss and Shield Spike. You can't put Returning on them. Shield Augmentation seems to have their own rules.

The first sentence was about shields with the Shield Throw trait:
Yes, you can put runes on it, and the only relevant ones are such that work with martial thrown ranged weapons.
Including Returning, of course.