Interest Check - 2E / Revised Vampire the Masquerade


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Contemplating running a Chronicle where the PCs are all comprised of a single Clan. Cannot start the game till the Spring but I caught the bug tonight and figured I would throw this out there and see who was interested.

Could be Giovanni Chronicles IV (Giovanni) or maybe a chapter in the Ventrue Chronicles (Ventrue) or another Clan (probably no supplement at all) entirely. I'll let the PCs (assuming I get any) pick.

I'd run any period from Dark Ages through Modern, nothing before Dark Ages though as that would require too much heavy lifting on my part and I could not spare the time for that plus I have another game I want to bring out of Torpor here on the Boards around the same time.


Always up for a Vampire game, but no strong preferences for a clan. I know you call out 2E/Revised, would V20 be an option?

Obviously Giovanni and Ventrue are good choices for a single clan game (as you mention, those have been published). Lasombra, Tremere, Assamite, or Tzimisce could be interesting options.

If I remember right, toward the end of the old WoD there was supposed to be a Brujah Chronicle publish too, but unfortunately it was cancelled.

In terms of timeframe something more modern would be preferable to me, as I am in the aforementioned Dark Ages game, currently slumbering in the grips of torpor, but that is only a preference and would be happy to play in any timeframe.


Sure, V20 could be an option, I only called out 2E/Revised as those modules utilize those rules sets.

Yeah, it was a shame that Brujah Chronicles book was cancelled, that would have been a terrific set of modules if they had been able to release a set for each Clan.


I would be interested. ;-)

I’m voting for Giovanni or Tremere! Actually makes sense to be from these clans because they’re much more controlled.

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Count on me as interested.

I've found pleasure in both Dark Age and Modern, so I'm neutral on which.

I'm good with V20.


I own Victorian Age Vampire, in fact I believe one of the Ventrue Chronicles chapters is set in that period. Is that something that might work for you Talomyr or would you prefer present day? Note that IF Giovanni wins, that chronicle I believe starts in the 1920s.

So that's 3!

As I said it will be a few months before I am able to move things along, based on that, feel free to shoot out some ideas conceptually for single Clan play as far as cities you might find interesting.

Giovanni is easy (Boston), Ventrue is easy (England), the others could literally be anywhere.


Storyteller Shadow wrote:

I own Victorian Age Vampire, in fact I believe one of the Ventrue Chronicles chapters is set in that period. Is that something that might work for you Talomyr or would you prefer present day? Note that IF Giovanni wins, that chronicle I believe starts in the 1920s.

So that's 3!

As I said it will be a few months before I am able to move things along, based on that, feel free to shoot out some ideas conceptually for single Clan play as far as cities you might find interesting.

Giovanni is easy (Boston), Ventrue is easy (England), the others could literally be anywhere.

Victorian age is fine. Really there isn't any sort of era that's a "deal breaker" for me, just a slight preference.


An interesting idea *could* be to play a cabal mortal 'sorcerers' (using either the Sorcerer rules or Mage ones) who are either targeted by clan Tremere to join the clan, or we ourselves seek out the vampires for embrace.

Could be set in an any era, though they would obviously each have varying differences. Heck, if Shadow was feeling ambitious, and had the time/energy, a game set in the Dark Ages(possibly making use of Sorcerer's Crusade) set around the time Clan Tremere broke off from the Order of Hermes would be *awesome*, especially since we could take the narrative in a few directions(assuming Shadow is cool with going 'off-script' as it were in relation to canon, lol).

An all Lasombra game, or an all Assamite one would also be super interesting. There's some solid variation among each of them where we could manage to not step on toes.

Shadow & Co, would ya'll be opposed to making use of a discord server? I find using one really helps with group cohesion and ooc chatter/status check ups.


I am not sure I own Sorcerer's Crusade but that would be an interesting idea especially as I have no problem leaving canon behind. Though at this time I am not feeling as ambitious as that might require :-)

I have an idea for the Tremere game but I don't want to introduce anything that might shift opinions of the PCs as to what to ultimately pick.

My issue with a discord server is I would never be available to do a "live" game so without that piece being incorporated into play, I'm not sure it adds anything more than having an OOC thread here does.

To be honest, I think ANY single Clan picked would be interesting, that will be the tough part and why I'm having the players pick!


Tentatively interested, depending on what clan is being considered.


Seer of Shadows wrote:
Tentatively interested, depending on what clan is being considered.

They are all in play, at some point in the next week or so, once I give more people a chance to pop in and look, I'll ask for a vote on Clans. Once I have that, I'll throw some concepts out and see what people would prefer to play.

I don't see this being a long running campaign, hell, maybe we will just do a series of one offs and run through a bunch of Clans.


Storyteller Shadow wrote:
Seer of Shadows wrote:
Tentatively interested, depending on what clan is being considered.

They are all in play, at some point in the next week or so, once I give more people a chance to pop in and look, I'll ask for a vote on Clans. Once I have that, I'll throw some concepts out and see what people would prefer to play.

I don't see this being a long running campaign, hell, maybe we will just do a series of one offs and run through a bunch of Clans.

I look forward to it. Honestly, even if people end up choosing a clan I'm not interested in playing, it's still nice to see Vampire the Masquerade being played.


Storyteller Shadow wrote:


I have an idea for the Tremere game but I don't want to introduce anything that might shift opinions of the PCs as to what to ultimately pick.

If we're looking at something that isn't published already, the Tremere would be my top pick followed by the Assimites. Nosferatu could be fun.


I think the idea of being mortal sorcerers and then becoming a target for clan Tremere … and then being tested to see who’s worthy of the embrace sounds cool! :-D

No preference on timeline.

Sovereign Court

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Interesting. It's certainly a way for people to flex their individuality and show how they approach each clan as a unique person rather than a monoculture.

(Incidentally, I wrote the 2e Tremere clanbook)


Jesse Heinig wrote:

Interesting. It's certainly a way for people to flex their individuality and show how they approach each clan as a unique person rather than a monoculture.

(Incidentally, I wrote the 2e Tremere clanbook)

And if I remember correctly, caught way more grief for M:tA Revised than was even remotely deserved. For what it's worth, I liked the Revised edition.

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Talomyr wrote:
Jesse Heinig wrote:

Interesting. It's certainly a way for people to flex their individuality and show how they approach each clan as a unique person rather than a monoculture.

(Incidentally, I wrote the 2e Tremere clanbook)

And if I remember correctly, caught way more grief for M:tA Revised than was even remotely deserved. For what it's worth, I liked the Revised edition.

Well, that's the internet for you, but the death threats were a bit much.


Jesse Heinig wrote:

Interesting. It's certainly a way for people to flex their individuality and show how they approach each clan as a unique person rather than a monoculture.

(Incidentally, I wrote the 2e Tremere clanbook)

As much as I *loathe* Tremere for some of their nonsense, they're one of more interesting clans in all of VtM. Thank you for your contributions!!

I only got into Mage in M20, but I've heard nothing but good things about MtA: Revised and the team that worked on it. Sorry for stupid people.


I think I would prefer if the PCs started as Vampires if only because having run a game where I had the PCs start as Mortals, it took a while for the Embrace to take place and I would prefer to jump into the action on this one (the exception being Giovanni Chronicles where the PCs start as Mortals as part of the Module).

Giovanni IV is the only one of the Giovanni Chronicles I haven't run yet. I ran the first scenario from Ventrue Chronicles (for those of you who play or used to play in the Venice game on the boards, at least one of the NPCs in that game is a former PC created for that campaign back in I believe it was 2003).


Jesse Heinig wrote:
Talomyr wrote:
Jesse Heinig wrote:

Interesting. It's certainly a way for people to flex their individuality and show how they approach each clan as a unique person rather than a monoculture.

(Incidentally, I wrote the 2e Tremere clanbook)

And if I remember correctly, caught way more grief for M:tA Revised than was even remotely deserved. For what it's worth, I liked the Revised edition.
Well, that's the internet for you, but the death threats were a bit much.

You were ahead of the curve, now people lob death threats for any old thing online!

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Yeah it seems that the internet has really let people live their best anonymous hate mob!

ANYway...


Jesse Heinig wrote:

Yeah it seems that the internet has really let people live their best anonymous hate mob!

ANYway...

Anyway, are you playing and what clan! :-)


Interest:

Talomyr - Clan No Preference
GM Nowruz - Clan Giovanni or Tremere
Atlas2112 - Clan No Preference
Monkeygod - Clan Tremere or Assamite or Lasombra
Seer of Shadows - Clan Preference Unclear
RL Friend of Mine - Clan Preference Tremere or Assamite

Lurking:

Jesse Heinig

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Based on posts so far:

Clan Tremere 3 "Votes"
Clan Giovanni 1 "Vote"
Clan Assamite 2 "Votes"
Clan Lasombra 1 "Vote"

This is what I am seeing based on posts so far. This reflects the same person in some cases showing interest in multiple Clans.

Waiting another week to see if anyone else wishes to chime in or if anyone who has already posted wants to indicate any other Clan interest.


Jesse Heinig wrote:

Interesting. It's certainly a way for people to flex their individuality and show how they approach each clan as a unique person rather than a monoculture.

(Incidentally, I wrote the 2e Tremere clanbook)

Oh wow! It is an honor!! Really! The 2e creative team of VtM is just awesome.


OK, I have one more PC from RL interested, he has no preference for Clan. As I don't see anyone else popping in showing interest, that's roughly 7 or 8 PCs, plenty for a Vampire game.

My thoughts on possible Chronicles based on Clans (this is a 1,000 foot overview):

Tremere - The Coterie is tasked with travel to China to retrieve an Artifact for the Clan.

Giovanni - Giovanni Chronicles IV, set in Boston.

Assamite - The cell is tasked with penetrating Ceoris at the request of the newly arisen Ur-Shulgi as he seeks the origins of the Tremere Bloodcurse on the Clan.

Lasombra - Sabbat - City Siege (city TBD).
Lasombra - Antitribu - TBD.


Of those options, I like the Tremere and Assamite options.

I wouldn't be opposed to the Giovanni Chronicle, just looking for something different, given that I play Lorenzo (a Cappadocian for those of you who don't know the character) in your Dark Age game.


The Assamite and Lasombra concepts appeal to me the most, though I wouldn't hate Tremere.


i'm always interested in playing vampire and have no real clan preference. they all have something interesting to dive into.


dr. kekyll wrote:
i'm always interested in playing vampire and have no real clan preference. they all have something interesting to dive into.

Sounds good, I agree with that sentiment.

If this first one goes off well I might just run all 13 clans, as I said, these will be one shots not continued chronicles. So, even if your top pick clan isn't first, it is still conceivable that I will run that clan, eventually.


I'll give it till April 1 for people to let me know what they prefer.

On April 2, I'll announce what I plan on running first. Will be probably early June (I will need that two months to put the whole chronicle together with all the various RL issues I am juggling at the moment) before I run and I will start character creation in mid May.

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I'd lean toward Tremere or Tzimisce, I think.


Yeah, Tzimisce ideas I have had are interesting. You're the first person to mention them.

Though that Tremere interest you just mentioned may be the deciding factor for Tremere to go first.


Looking forward to hearing your decision!! :-D


GM Nowruz wrote:
Looking forward to hearing your decision!! :-D

I doubt anyone else is going to chime in, but we shall see between now and tomorrow.


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Based upon feedback it appears that Clan Tremere will be the first Clan explored.

As I said, the 1,000 foot overview is that the characters will be sent to China to recover an Artifact that the Clan is seeking.

I will be setting the game sometime between 1910 and 1970 but I need to dig in a bit before I make the final call.

The PC builds using V20 rules:

Attributes - 8/6/4
Abilities - 17/12/7
Disciplines - 7 (you can spend 1 point on non-Clan Celerity/Fortitude/Potence if you so choose)
Backgrounds - 8
Virtues - 7
Freebies - 22
Merits up to 7 points
Flaws up to 7 points
Starting Generation 12th (you can go as low as 7th)
[PCs take 1 Ritual per dot in Thaumaturgy including Paths - so if you take a 4 Thaumaturgy and 3 Movement of the Mind - you take 2 1st, 2 2nd, 2 3rd and 1 4th level Ritual].

Your history is not terribly important but feel free to draft one if you wish, you can be from anywhere in the world as the PCs will be assembled in Vienna at the start of the Chronicle. If you wish to take a non-Clan Discipline besides the physical ones, that will need to be in a Background and make sense.

I'll get an actual gameplay thread up by next weekend and the PCs can build in the Recruitment thread there.


Thanks a lot!!

Sounds awesome!


I'll start putting something together over the next week or so.


if it makes any difference, i'd prefer to start post prohibition era, but i can probably make this idea work regardless.


I burned out on playing Tremere some time ago, but the premise of this game still intrigues me. So as not to steal a spot from someone who is more interested in playing a member of the clan, I will retract my interest as a player.

That said, I would very much like to lurk from time to time and see how the plot shakes out. Assuming of course, that's fine with you, Storyteller Shadow?


Seer of Shadows wrote:

I burned out on playing Tremere some time ago, but the premise of this game still intrigues me. So as not to steal a spot from someone who is more interested in playing a member of the clan, I will retract my interest as a player.

That said, I would very much like to lurk from time to time and see how the plot shakes out. Assuming of course, that's fine with you, Storyteller Shadow?

Don't drop, there's no "spots". With 7 (max) PCs I can accommodate that size group just fine, especially in (mainly) troupe style. I was doing 13 in the Dark Ages game and they rarely had scenes together. It was like running 13 separate games in one thread.


I'm potentially interested if there's room - it's been a minute since I played this game so I'd need to revisit the ruleset!


Wandering Wastrel wrote:
I'm potentially interested if there's room - it's been a minute since I played this game so I'd need to revisit the ruleset!

Sure, it's rare all people that display interest end up creating PCs anyway.


For ease of reference. Just click on the links.

Discipline Rules

I also have some basic rules and house rule changes to them which I will continue to use in this new chronicle.


Impressive stuff. I'm guessing if your game setting is 1910 (or even 1970) there's no use for skills like computing?

(incidentally, I think 1910 would be a fascinating period to play in - the great powers in Europe manoeuvering but not yet ready for war, Russia turbulent but still nominally subject to the Czar while Lenin sips coffee in exile and plots, the USA gradually emerging into the dominant economic power of the age while the Brits still claim to have an empire on which the sun never sets... and beyond all of them, the Camarilla and Sabat wage their eternal conflict)


Wandering Wastrel wrote:

Impressive stuff. I'm guessing if your game setting is 1910 (or even 1970) there's no use for skills like computing?

(incidentally, I think 1910 would be a fascinating period to play in - the great powers in Europe manoeuvering but not yet ready for war, Russia turbulent but still nominally subject to the Czar while Lenin sips coffee in exile and plots, the USA gradually emerging into the dominant economic power of the age while the Brits still claim to have an empire on which the sun never sets... and beyond all of them, the Camarilla and Sabat wage their eternal conflict)

Correct.

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That is why I need time to make my final decision as I think I want to set all of the Chronicles in the same period. This way the research I do can be re-utilized for all the single Clan one shot chronicles.

I am probably going to avoid the actual world war years.


Hi,
I am interested in participating in a play by post chronicle. I am very familiar with the old world of darkness but I do not know the V20 system so I could have some blind spots with regard to game system mechanics. I am also new to these forums and how things are done here.

I’ve read your chronicle concept and the character idea that came to mind is an order of Hermes mage that was captured by Claudius Giovanni and offered as a meal/play thing to Casmir and was embraced as a Tremere neonate during the events of the last supper. The character only sees his siblings in darkness once every few hundred years so it would just be background. While the character serves and has sworn an oath of fealty to house Tremere, he has never given up hope of somehow finding a cure for the curse of vampirism and restoring his avatar. The only path for this very slim hope is acquiring more magical knowledge and lore and the only way for him to do that is by serving the Pyramid.

Let me know if you have room for one more character in the story and if so, if the character concept works.


KnightOfTheDinnerTable wrote:

Hi,

I am interested in participating in a play by post chronicle. I am very familiar with the old world of darkness but I do not know the V20 system so I could have some blind spots with regard to game system mechanics. I am also new to these forums and how things are done here.

I’ve read your chronicle concept and the character idea that came to mind is an order of Hermes mage that was captured by Claudius Giovanni and offered as a meal/play thing to Casmir and was embraced as a Tremere neonate during the events of the last supper. The character only sees his siblings in darkness once every few hundred years so it would just be background. While the character serves and has sworn an oath of fealty to house Tremere, he has never given up hope of somehow finding a cure for the curse of vampirism and restoring his avatar. The only path for this very slim hope is acquiring more magical knowledge and lore and the only way for him to do that is by serving the Pyramid.

Let me know if you have room for one more character in the story and if so, if the character concept works.

Sure, sounds like an interesting concept (I am a big fan of that Module), probably you would have spent some time in torpor prior to the chronicle as by Embrace age you would absolutely be an Elder.


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In the next week or so, I will get an actual campaign thread up and running.


sweet! my character is pretty much done. just waiting to know the year, so i can adjust for time period.


Storyteller Shadow wrote:
In the next week or so, I will get an actual campaign thread up and running.

Sounds great. As to why my character is still barely an ancillae when by embrace date he should be an elder, after the events of 1444 he tried to experiment with a magical cure for his vampirism that involved complete immersion in quintessence at a node while a mage friend from his breathing days tried to restore him with the life sphere. The resulting explosion killed his mage friend and left him in torpor for centuries until he was pulled by mystic forces from torpor in 1666 and was compelled to rejoin with the other children of Isaac. After the events of 1666, he went on a quest that lasted nearly a year to try to cure his vampirism that took him to the deep umbra trying to find Pangea and ultimately to the gates of Arcadia where he was denied entrance to the realm of the fea. When he felt a mystic pull to return to the material plane it wasn’t a year that had passed it was nearly two centuries as time had passed differently. After the events of 1888 he has remained with the Tremere until the beginning of the chronicle in 19**.

Do we post the draft character sheets here for storyteller review?

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