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Greetings Organized Play!
With yesterday evenings release users should now see Replay points available for use in Organized Play. On a personal note, thank you for your patience everyone. I've written up a small explanation of the new features:
Where to see your replay points:
GM/Event Coordinator Tab of the Organized Play page, they should manifest after clicking "Refresh Points".
"You have X Replays":
You should now see the addition of Starfinder, Pathfinder 1E, and Pathfinder 2E replay points available on your Pathfinder Society GM/Event Coordinator tab. Please note that replay point types don't display unless you've earned at least one replay point of that type.
Updated Reporting:
Org Play games for PFS1E/Core, PFS2E, and SFS should now come in 3 reportable conditions, One-Time Playthrough, Replayable, or Consumes Replay. ACG scenario reporting doesn't use replays.
One-Time Playthrough:
This scenario grants credit to the players first character to complete it. No special text displays when this type of scenario is being reported.
Replayable:
This scenario grants credit for each characters first playthrough. When selecting sessions of this scenario types the UI will display "This scenario is replayable and will grant credit each time it is reported to a new character."
Consumes Replays:
A player receives credit on the first character they play through this scenario. Additional characters can earn credit playing through this scenario by consuming 1 available replay point.
When reporting scenarios of this type a checkbox to consume replays should be available in the reporting UI, only check the box if the player is using a replay point.
The same character can never receive credit for the same scenario twice. When selecting sessions of this scenario types the UI will display "Players replaying this scenario may consume a replay point to gain credit on each character's first playthrough."
A reported consumes-replay scenario should grant credit, however it will deny credit and quote the player has already received credit for the scenario under the following conditions:
The character has already played through the scenario before.
The player is out of replay points and cannot consume one to receive credit, in which case it should reference the original playthrough.
Granted Replay Points:
Yesterday we granted replay points to Organized Play users. Users with reported sessions for any Org Play type (PFS1E, SFS, PFS2E) should automatically receive 2 replay points for that respective Organized Play type. In addition to this, users should have received an additional 2 replay points per 50 reported player seats for each Org Play type. In addition to this future newly registered PFS ID's should come preloaded with 2 replays of all Org Play types.
Purchasing additional replay points with Achievement Points:
I believe Alex should be making replay points available for purchase in the near future through the use of achievement points. At that time you'll need to select a character in order to purchase replay points, but they can be used by any character. This was a limitation of how boons currently require an associated character in the code, and we plan to, when time permits, implement character neutral boons which Replay Points will fall under.
GM / Reporter Specific Notes:
All "Consumes Replay" scenario seats default to not consume a replay and must be checked to use one. There currently isn't a safeguard against reporting a replay point to be consumed on a players first playthrough of a consumes-replay scenario. If this happens you can delete a misreported seat and save and the system will properly refund the player back the Replay Point that was consumed for them to use when actually needed.
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I'm glad to see replays are tracked and working now, but there's definitely some oddities about the math.
The 2 + 2/50 played doesn't match the PFS1 one-time grant at the end of new content for that system, which I think was 5 per 50 played + 1 per GM star.
It also feels a bit odd that the 2 per 50 played, is more generous than the 1 per GM donut (star, glyph, nova) -- 5 Donut = 150 GMed = 5 replays (which aren't accounted for yet), versus 6 replays for 150 played.
I feel like the feature may be ready, but the math/formula might have needed some more thought before releasing.
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Granted Replay Points:
Yesterday we granted replay points to Organized Play users. Users with reported sessions for any Org Play type (PFS1E, SFS, PFS2E) should automatically receive 2 replay points for that respective Organized Play type. In addition to this, users should have received an additional 2 replay points per 50 reported player seats for each Org Play type. In addition to this future newly registered PFS ID's should come preloaded with 2 replays of all Org Play types.
Does this mean per 50 tables you've played, or per 50 players you've had at tables you GM?
Also, how does this interact with items other than Scenarios (APs, Bounties, Quests, other adventures etc)
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When you go to report a session you can see which of the three states its in -- there's a green message for both the replayables and the consumes replay -- the message is different and correct on all the ones I spot checked. All the APs/Adventures have no message and would therefore be the One-Time.
That feels consistent with past messaging.
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Well, if it's based on players at tables you've GMed then it's definitely bugged for how many it's showing for me.
I just looked at the math, My records show I've played 188 times (including everything PFS gives credit for) and have 8 replays. 2 + 2x3 so it's got to be that way, was just confused by the wording.
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Granted Replay Points:
Yesterday we granted replay points to Organized Play users. Users with reported sessions for any Org Play type (PFS1E, SFS, PFS2E) should automatically receive 2 replay points for that respective Organized Play type. In addition to this, users should have received an additional 2 replay points per 50 reported player seats for each Org Play type. In addition to this future newly registered PFS ID's should come preloaded with 2 replays of all Org Play types.
It would be disappointing to lose 1E replays that were previously granted, though if I'm being honest, it's difficult to see using the 14 that are showing now, let alone the 29 that showed previously. I mostly wonder on behalf of people who might have used more replays than they are now granted, based on the previously reported number available.
Is the 1E number adjusted for scenarios already replayed? If so, how does it account for GM star replays?
And I suppose a related question is how does the 2E system account for GM glyph replays? If a Consumes Replay scenario is reported, does the system know if that is supposed to be a GM glyph replay or consume one of the listed replays?
EDIT: Possibly the answer is to not check the box when reporting a GM glyph replay? So be specific when telling the table GM or filling out the signup sheet?
Overall, though, the addition of 2E replays is welcome, as it will help offset the smaller number of high level scenarios. Thanks to the team for working on this.
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I look forward to more news when it comes! There are also questions from the Starfinder Side since there were Second Seeker Jadnura and Ehu Hadif replays, in addition to the replays available from a certain GenCon GM boon...
But hey, Alex, you didn't want to do OrgPlay Coordinator on easy mode, did you?
I want to thank both Alex and Erik Keith though for opening up replays a bit more across the system. There were so few, and it is nice to see more options coming out -- even if the implementation is a little rocky at first.
Hmm
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Venture-Lieutenant, Minnesota—Minneapolis
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Yay! Replays for all!
That will make scheduling games a little easier with some of the older scenarios. With my local Starfinder group, I’ve a list of scenarios where two or three people want them but everyone else has already played them. In the short term this will help allieviate that.
I’m guessing that replays from symbols (stars, novas, glyphs) and from Starfinder faction rewards will not be tracked by this system.
Venture-Agent, Online—VTT
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I would love it if there was an 'Other Replay' checkbox to cover boon / faction / symbol replays!
I have two Starfinder boons (one of which is from an AP) that allow me for separate replays above and separate from the novas I have so I wasn't sure if these were being or could be tracked separately or added to the total based on the scenarios or AP/modules reported.
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Organized Play Coordinator
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Hi all! Thanks very much for your patience. Getting functional and purchasable replays out has been on my wishlist for...well, I've been here for three years, so at least that long. I'm very excited this day is finally here!
We're aware that there are some lingering issues happening here, and I'm digging into them now. Whoever said above that this was "not ready for primetime yet" was probably right, but hey, Organized Play lives on the edge, we're adaptable!
Back soon with more information, hang tight folks.
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Hi all! Thanks very much for your patience. Getting functional and purchasable replays out has been on my wishlist for...well, I've been here for three years, so at least that long. I'm very excited this day is finally here!
We're aware that there are some lingering issues happening here, and I'm digging into them now. Whoever said above that this was "not ready for primetime yet" was probably right, but hey, Organized Play lives on the edge, we're adaptable!
Back soon with more information, hang tight folks.
Thanks
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So, I just checked mine and for some reason 80 of my Achievement Points have been put in Starfinder. I don't play that, so I should never have Startfinder points. What happened? And how would we use replay points in 2e?
Everybody got 80AcP in both PF2 and Starfinder awhile ago so you could buy something special for your first character.
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So, I just checked mine and for some reason 80 of my Achievement Points have been put in Starfinder. I don't play that, so I should never have Startfinder points. What happened? And how would we use replay points in 2e?Everybody got 80AcP in both PF2 and Starfinder awhile ago so you could buy something special for your first character.
Ok. Not like I will use it, but that's cool. I am sure I had much more than 4 in PFS though. lol
Venture-Captain, Michigan—Mt. Pleasant
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Ok. Not like I will use it, but that's cool. I am sure I had much more than 4 in PFS though. lolSo, I just checked mine and for some reason 80 of my Achievement Points have been put in Starfinder. I don't play that, so I should never have Startfinder points. What happened? And how would we use replay points in 2e?Everybody got 80AcP in both PF2 and Starfinder awhile ago so you could buy something special for your first character.
You can always check out the System Traveler boons if you want to play a ratfolk or android in PFS2. 40 sf acp for ratfolk and 80 sf acp for androids.
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I haven't seen it mentioned here, so I have to throw another spanner in the works (sorry).
The Expanded Narrative boon (which was available to all GMs when it was issued) allows the "recharging" of GM replays annually, but I see no way to make an account of it. Given that it's been a paper-only system thus far, I'm not sure how to account for it online.
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Organized Play Coordinator
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Hi all! Thanks very much for your patience. Getting functional and purchasable replays out has been on my wishlist for...well, I've been here for three years, so at least that long. I'm very excited this day is finally here!
We're aware that there are some lingering issues happening here, and I'm digging into them now. Whoever said above that this was "not ready for primetime yet" was probably right, but hey, Organized Play lives on the edge, we're adaptable!
Back soon with more information, hang tight folks.
I'm back! I will have more robust information in next week's blog post, but I wanted to let people know that we're working on rerunning the intial replay grant to a) use the correct formula for PFS1 replays, restoring those that were lost, and b) recalculate the replays for PFS2 and SFS to include both games played and GMed. My hope is that we'll be able to do that this week before it causes too many cascading problems.
We're also working on tracking down some issues regarding players losing points and GM tables. It looks like the new code update stopped counting correctly when a GM ran the same non-repeatable scenario multiple times. Will share more on that once we have new updates to share.
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Damn I've lost around 10 achievement points by clicking "Refresh points" :(
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GenCon, Origins, and PaizoCon from a couple of years back. Still have 10 of those 30 replays to use...in addition to the replays available from a certain GenCon GM boon...
The online conboon bonanza before people learned to run online...
"Wait what con am I in now?"
"you mean the reporting number?
"no I mean what con is this now...."
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Venture-Captain, North Carolina—Central Region
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I think the answer is "yes", but just want to make sure...
Can replays be used to GM a scenario a second time and apply the credit on a different PC?
At this time, no. It's one of the things Alex is working on, and might go either way depending on various things behind the scenes.
Venture-Lieutenant, Virginia—Norfolk
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Hi all! Thanks very much for your patience. Getting functional and purchasable replays out has been on my wishlist for...well, I've been here for three years, so at least that long. I'm very excited this day is finally here!
We're aware that there are some lingering issues happening here, and I'm digging into them now. Whoever said above that this was "not ready for primetime yet" was probably right, but hey, Organized Play lives on the edge, we're adaptable!
Back soon with more information, hang tight folks.
I'm back! I will have more robust information in next week's blog post, but I wanted to let people know that we're working on rerunning the intial replay grant to a) use the correct formula for PFS1 replays, restoring those that were lost, and b) recalculate the replays for PFS2 and SFS to include both games played and GMed. My hope is that we'll be able to do that this week before it causes too many cascading problems.
We're also working on tracking down some issues regarding players losing points and GM tables. It looks like the new code update stopped counting correctly when a GM ran the same non-repeatable scenario multiple times. Will share more on that once we have new updates to share.
Is there an update on this? My number of replays is still very low. It appears to not include any credit for games GM’d?
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After spending over 200 ACP on new replays for 2e, my only wish for adding to this system would be to have cross system transfer capability, similarly to how we can play different ancestries in the other system, but for replays instead. I have over 400 ACP in Starfinder that I’d love to convert into Pathfinder replay points.