Dangus Sunborn |
I'm sure this has already been asked by others other places on the web but I can't seem to find a satisfactory answer due to how the wording is on this ability
If you have a drone, whenever both you and your drone make attacks against the same target, you each receive a +1 circumstance bonus to your attack rolls. If you have an exocortex instead, whenever you and your exocortex are both attempting to hack a system, you each receive a +1 circumstance bonus to the checks to gain access. In either case, these bonuses increase to +2 at 17th level.
Very specifically the wording of hack and gaining access. This heavily implies that you are both doing a full action against one computer to gain access. Because as it seems to me the other computer skills do not involve gaining access other than the hack system.
Also as I understand it having access means you don't need to hack to use a computers functions so that puts out access unsecured system because you aren't gaining access as you already can access it whenever
E-div_drone |
Um, what is the question here?
If you are asking what is the point of hacking to obtain access, it means when you are making computers checks to gain access to a secure system to which you do not currently have access.
If your question is something else, you’ll need to clarify.
Dangus Sunborn |
Um, what is the question here?
If you are asking what is the point of hacking to obtain access, it means when you are making computers checks to gain access to a secure system to which you do not currently have access.
If your question is something else, you’ll need to clarify.
In what instances will this be able to happen? Because it mentions checks to gain access to a secure system which will require a full action. So how could both you and the exocortex be hacking a system at the same time?
Kishmo |
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In what instances will this be able to happen? Because it mentions checks to gain access to a secure system which will require a full action. So how could both you and the exocortex be hacking a system at the same time?
It's one of the things exocortxes get to do, starting at lvl 5, from the Wireless Hack ability. It's one of the core abilities that sets Mechanics apart from the other "great at Computers" classes.
Dangus Sunborn |
Dangus Sunborn wrote:In what instances will this be able to happen? Because it mentions checks to gain access to a secure system which will require a full action. So how could both you and the exocortex be hacking a system at the same time?It's one of the things exocortxes get to do, starting at lvl 5, from the Wireless Hack ability. It's one of the core abilities that sets Mechanics apart from the other "great at Computers" classes.
Does this mean you can do two full actions in a turn to hack a system to get access??
Kishmo |
Does this mean you can do two full actions in a turn to hack a system to get access??
I'd say so, yes. I realize the "hack system" write up says it "typically takes one full action per tier of the computer system" and Wireless Hack says it counts as a Standard, but - I think the intention is pretty clearly for Wireless Hack to let you attempt two checks every round - otherwise, like you point out, what's the point?
Belafon |
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E-div_drone wrote:In what instances will this be able to happen? Because it mentions checks to gain access to a secure system which will require a full action. So how could both you and the exocortex be hacking a system at the same time?Um, what is the question here?
If you are asking what is the point of hacking to obtain access, it means when you are making computers checks to gain access to a secure system to which you do not currently have access.
If your question is something else, you’ll need to clarify.
The exocortex Wireless Hack interaction with the Computers skill is one of the “confusing language” issues that has been noted since the initial release of the 1st printing. The way I have always played it (and almost everyone else who was my Society GM):
1) The exocortex can attempt any “hacking-type” check, not just those to gain access.2) Since the exocortex only gets a standard action each round it completes a full-round equivalent every other round. So if it is working alone it takes twice as long to complete the task. If you are working together, that cuts your required time by a third. (A 3-round hack would only take two rounds.)
2) is the much more controversial ruling. It’s essentially based on the PF1 rule that you could cast a full-round spell by spending a standard action on two consecutive rounds. (A rule which I don’t believe exists in Starfinder.) There were some requests for a FAQ/errata early on but I don’t think they ever got an official response. So we the players put our heads together and decided on a reasonable interpretation since Wireless Hack was clearly intended to do something and not be completely unusable.
BigNorseWolf |
This heavily implies that you are both doing a full action against one computer to gain access.
Are you hacking the computer? yes. You gain the bonus.
Are you writing your Upset Tengu physics engine game? Then you don't get the bonus.
RAW and RAI that's it. I can't see any reason you'd use a VERY subjective interpretation to override the raw AND rai and stop the ability from working.