Scion: Golarion (Or Toril)


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Had the thought the other night of Scion, but on a Golarion (The Pathfinder setting) that has reached modern level of technology and the scions are children of the gods of that world. It seemed like an interesining thought and side steps the whole monotheism issue that the core book tries to hand wave. The only tricky part I would think would be the PSPs.

Has anyone else had thoughts along these lines? Maybe using Toril of DnD rather than Golarion?


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I think if you’re making Golarion so unrecognizably different, you may as well not use Golarion at all. The version of this I would enjoy most would just be a demigod-flavored mythic campaign in the regular version of the setting - I’d really enjoy being Achaekek’s daughter or Arazni’s champion.


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Iirc, somewhere on the old white wolf forums people did scion writeups for everyone from Ao to Mask to Mr. Burns and Jean Luc Picard. It may take a moment to find though.

Love scion. Prefer 1st Ed, but am liking the newer stuff too.


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What monotheism issue? Or is that an issue in Scion rather than Pathfinder?


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Perpdepog wrote:
What monotheism issue? Or is that an issue in Scion rather than Pathfinder?

In Scion 2E they do away with the Masquerade and say that the mythological stuff has always been fully integrated with society, it's just "Over There" for most people and that monotheism still happened. Overall the World is still very much like it is in real life. The issue with that is that monotheism had such a large affect on how the world is today, that their presentation of the World in game doesn't really work.


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Freehold DM wrote:

Iirc, somewhere on the old white wolf forums people did scion writeups for everyone from Ao to Mask to Mr. Burns and Jean Luc Picard. It may take a moment to find though.

Love scion. Prefer 1st Ed, but am liking the newer stuff too.

What is it of 1e that you prefer?


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keftiu wrote:
I think if you’re making Golarion so unrecognizably different, you may as well not use Golarion at all. The version of this I would enjoy most would just be a demigod-flavored mythic campaign in the regular version of the setting - I’d really enjoy being Achaekek’s daughter or Arazni’s champion.

I'd argue not as much as one would think. It would be easier than Starfinder and how quickly Golarion got to modern tech would also be a big influence on how difficult it would be I think.


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The NPC wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

Iirc, somewhere on the old white wolf forums people did scion writeups for everyone from Ao to Mask to Mr. Burns and Jean Luc Picard. It may take a moment to find though.

Love scion. Prefer 1st Ed, but am liking the newer stuff too.

What is it of 1e that you prefer?

more or less everything. The game play systems needed to be fixed for a certainty, and the Pantheon outside of Greek, Norse, and Egyptian were a bit sparse. But the newer version takes on the flaws of the older in a very serious way to the point that they have rebuilt the world itself in a very wordy, open history nerd way that just plain reading it, even for fun, requires a day dedicated to research.


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Freehold DM wrote:
The NPC wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

Iirc, somewhere on the old white wolf forums people did scion writeups for everyone from Ao to Mask to Mr. Burns and Jean Luc Picard. It may take a moment to find though.

Love scion. Prefer 1st Ed, but am liking the newer stuff too.

What is it of 1e that you prefer?
more or less everything. The game play systems needed to be fixed for a certainty, and the Pantheon outside of Greek, Norse, and Egyptian were a bit sparse. But the newer version takes on the flaws of the older in a very serious way to the point that they have rebuilt the world itself in a very wordy, open history nerd way that just plain reading it, even for fun, requires a day dedicated to research.

That's fair.

Would Scion: Golarion interest you?


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Y'know what? I absolutely am, considering I'm the same person who has a homebrew Scion of Pelor playing in his Planescape Future game.

But if you want my 2 coppers, I would tell you to expand the adventure into the multiverse/universe rather than just on one world, since modern Golarion would require a not inconsiderable amount of rewriting for itself, since the og rpg's selling point was in how it was explicitly building off of our world.


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D3stro 2119 wrote:

Y'know what? I absolutely am, considering I'm the same person who has a homebrew Scion of Pelor playing in his Planescape Future game.

But if you want my 2 coppers, I would tell you to expand the adventure into the multiverse/universe rather than just on one world, since modern Golarion would require a not inconsiderable amount of rewriting for itself, since the og rpg's selling point was in how it was explicitly building off of our world.

Might that make it a touch easier?


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The NPC wrote:
D3stro 2119 wrote:

Y'know what? I absolutely am, considering I'm the same person who has a homebrew Scion of Pelor playing in his Planescape Future game.

But if you want my 2 coppers, I would tell you to expand the adventure into the multiverse/universe rather than just on one world, since modern Golarion would require a not inconsiderable amount of rewriting for itself, since the og rpg's selling point was in how it was explicitly building off of our world.

Might that make it a touch easier?

Basically-- use the current setting homebrewed as you like (in fact using the premise as a plot for a major event would be cool), but advancing the society to modern is going to be iffy since so many things would be different from our world, and that's not really the tone of the og.


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D3stro 2119 wrote:
The NPC wrote:
D3stro 2119 wrote:

Y'know what? I absolutely am, considering I'm the same person who has a homebrew Scion of Pelor playing in his Planescape Future game.

But if you want my 2 coppers, I would tell you to expand the adventure into the multiverse/universe rather than just on one world, since modern Golarion would require a not inconsiderable amount of rewriting for itself, since the og rpg's selling point was in how it was explicitly building off of our world.

Might that make it a touch easier?
Basically-- use the current setting homebrewed as you like (in fact using the premise as a plot for a major event would be cool), but advancing the society to modern is going to be iffy since so many things would be different from our world, and that's not really the tone of the og.

That's fair. At least to me though, it sounds readily doable.

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