Arenok |
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Hey, all - got a fairly simple lore/story-based question I was hoping to get some advice/insight on and hope y'all can help me. :)
So, I know that within Korvosa/Little Cheliax (depending on who you ask), they are two established schools for magical studies - the less-respected Theumanexus College and their generalized studies, and of course the Acadamae who produces specialist Wizards of each school (aside from their obsessive focus on Conjuration and their mandatory test in said school just to graduate). However, one of the main things known about the latter is that it's almost exclusively a WIZARD school - meaning Sorcerers are out of luck and potentially also Arcanists would have a hard time getting in... right?
What I'm wondering is what kind of options would a Korvosan-born Arcanist have for how they could have studied outside of those institutions? And would there be any possible exclusive or ideal options out there for an Arcanist of the School Savant archetype/style - such as a chance (or increased chance of) of being accepted into the Acadamae?
... Side question as well, is it just Conjuration that cannot be ignored/considered an oppositional school for Acadamae students - or would it be Divination -and- Conjuration? I ask because I read that they consider Divination as a universal school and somewhere that claimed both schools were basically too important to ignore.
Thanks all in advance, and have a great day/afternoon/night. :D
SheepishEidolon |
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However, one of the main things known about the latter is that it's almost exclusively a WIZARD school - meaning Sorcerers are out of luck and potentially also Arcanists would have a hard time getting in... right?
I don't think the school restricts its teaching to wizards. Because IMO "wizards" don't exist ingame, they are just a handy concept for players. IMO ingame a wizard is a smart person, willing to use their intelligence as well as a lot of time and energy to systematically learn arcane powers. You could apply this description to arcanists too, at least at the beginning of their career - sooner or later they will develop their own approaches to magic. Which are not covered by conventional lessons and might offend teachers. Or intrigue them. Or make them support the arcanist to hide their powers (because the arcanist is promising otherwise, or a love interest, or reminds the teacher of their son, or whatever).
What I'm wondering is what kind of options would a Korvosan-born Arcanist have for how they could have studied outside of those institutions?
They could get their hands on some magic books, by chance.
They could be taught by an independent master. Which is no necessarily humanoid.They could visit a different institution in another city, then come back to Korvosa.
I guess there are more options.
Mysterious Stranger |
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The reason those and other schools are wizard focused is the nature of the classes. Although the three classes share a spell list how they actually use magic is not the same.
A sorcerer is someone born with the ability to do magic. No amount of training can teach someone who does not have the inborn ability. Not everyone who has the potential to become a sorcerer chooses to develop the ability. In some cases, they may decide to develop the ability later in life. That explains how someone can multiclass into a sorcerer. But the ability was always there even if the character denies and suppresses it. A sorcerer does not need to understand how magic works they simply tap into their inborn talents. When they “learn” a spell it is more developing a new muscle then actually learning.
Wizardry is a skill that can be learned. The skill is complex and difficult to learn especially for someone without sufficient intelligence. Someone with a low INT simply does not have the mental discipline to control magic. The more complex the magic the more mental focus and concentration is needed. Since a wizard has no inborn magic ability, they often draw power from material components for even simple spells. This is why wizards use material components where sorcerers only need them for more powerful spells.
An Arcanist is kind of a mixture of the two. Like a sorcerer they are born with some magic talent. In some cases, it may not be strong enough to manifest as a sorcerer, in others it may be the character has the potential to become a sorcerer but chose to develop it in a different manner.
Most schools will be focused on wizard since anyone with sufficient INT can become a student. A sorcerer gains nothing from going to a school of wizardry, and in fact it may hamper his ability to develop as a sorcerer. This could cause the character to become an arcanist instead of a sorcerer. Arcanist schools are going to be fairly rare because fewer candidates will be able to fully learn this method of magic.
So, while a sorcerer will probably not get anything from a magic school, the arcanist might. More than likely this would probably result in an arcanist who has the school savant archetype. A sorcerer studying at a school might develop into a blood arcanist.
Arenok |
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The reason those and other schools are wizard focused is the nature of the classes. Although the three classes share a spell list how they actually use magic is not the same.
A sorcerer is someone born with the ability to do magic. No amount of training can teach someone who does not have the inborn ability. Not everyone who has the potential to become a sorcerer chooses to develop the ability. In some cases, they may decide to develop the ability later in life. That explains how someone can multiclass into a sorcerer. But the ability was always there even if the character denies and suppresses it. A sorcerer does not need to understand how magic works they simply tap into their inborn talents. When they “learn” a spell it is more developing a new muscle then actually learning.
Wizardry is a skill that can be learned. The skill is complex and difficult to learn especially for someone without sufficient intelligence. Someone with a low INT simply does not have the mental discipline to control magic. The more complex the magic the more mental focus and concentration is needed. Since a wizard has no inborn magic ability, they often draw power from material components for even simple spells. This is why wizards use material components where sorcerers only need them for more powerful spells.
An Arcanist is kind of a mixture of the two. Like a sorcerer they are born with some magic talent. In some cases, it may not be strong enough to manifest as a sorcerer, in others it may be the character has the potential to become a sorcerer but chose to develop it in a different manner.
Most schools will be focused on wizard since anyone with sufficient INT can become a student. A sorcerer gains nothing from going to a school of wizardry, and in fact it may hamper his ability to develop as a sorcerer. This could cause the character to become an arcanist instead of a sorcerer. Arcanist schools are going to be fairly rare because fewer candidates will be able to fully learn this method...
Well said! I was wanting to go with this line of thought, though I was a bit uncertain - but also, as suggested by SheepishEidolon, said Arcanist (who would certainly be of the School Savant archetype in this case) could start out with the Wizard's approach to magic while hiding any inborn magical talent or gifts they have, and once either alone or even after graduating and beginning an adventuring career, they could begin dabbling more with their innate abilities or trying to experiment with said talents/powers in the form of exploits.
Let me just say, thank you both for responding and sharing such wonderful answers!
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If you're willing to look outside of Korvosa but would rather stay within Varisia, both the Twilight Academy and the Stone of Seers would be fine options for arcane learning. ;)