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It's funny how such a basic rule gives me trouble after so long.
In pathfinder 1e I know how ranged attacks work, a square is chosen, 4 lines are drawn to each of the corners of the objective and if one is interrupted the objective has cover.
In general terms, I am not going to get into specific things.
But in starfinder I can not understand it,
Can you help me?
In pag 245:
Ranged Attacks: With a ranged weapon, you can shoot or otherwise attack a target that is within the weapon’s maximum range and in your line of effect (see page 271).
Pag 271:
Line of effect: A line of effect is a straight, unblocked path that indicates what an attack or ability can affect. A line of effect is blocked by a solid barrier that can stop the effect in question (such as a wall, for most effects), but it is not blocked by purely visual restrictions (such as smoke or darkness). You cannot have line of effect that exceeds planetary range, unless otherwise indicated. You must have a clear line of effect to any creature or object
you wish to target or to any space in which you wish to create an effect without an area. (What follows this paragraph is for attacks in the area, at the moment, that does not interest me.)
Here they explain what a line of effect is, but not how it is formed or calculated.
I originally used the rules of Path 1 while learning how to better use Star, but ...
Pag 253. Example for cover.
#2: Obozaya is adjacent to the ksarik, but lines from every corner of her square to all the corners of the ksarik’s square pass through or run along the border of a wall, so the ksarik has cover from her. Using the same rules, she has cover from the ksarik, so she can make a ranged attack without provoking an attack of opportunity from it.
This example is the one that breaks all the schemes.
If I apply the Pathfinder 1 rules (which I shouldn't) it would be a clean shot.
But in the example it puts cover, so I have the feeling that I misinterpret some rule, but I don't know which one.
Please help.
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If the GM is unsure, they can use the rules for measuring cover provided in the Core Rulebook. For these purposes, a measuring line that passes along a wall (but not a creature) is considered to pass through a square or border that provides cover.
this line is center to center or corner to corner?
This is my doubt.
in the example #2 in the Core Rulebook pag. 253 the drawn line does not cross any obstacle, and in the text it says yes.
#2: Obozaya is adjacent to the ksarik, but lines from every corner of her square to all the corners of the ksarik’s square pass through or run along the border of a wall, so the ksarik has cover from her. Using the same rules, she has cover from the ksarik, so she can make a ranged attack without provoking an attack of opportunity from it.
this really confuses me.
I give it importance because my next game, there is a room that are all lines of effect, and I want to be clear about the rule.
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Oh, I meant a picture of the problem you're having.
If it helps with your understanding, in THIS picture, images #1-2 don't provide cover, but image #3 can, if the GM warrants it.
I, personally, would not grant #3 cover.
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This is the problem.
According to the explanations, it does provide cover, but it is because it does not explain how a line of effect is created, as it well explains in Pathfinder 1.
if it is true that in your picture, image #3 should not have coverage, and yet it does.
For me the only explanation I can find is that it draws 4 lines from corners to corners, but, that is contradicted by example #3 of my picture.
something I'm leaving.
Maybe it could be for the same reason as in a corner, at least I do not allow step guard or diagonal movement. But that is a theory.
According to the explanations, it does provide cover, but it is because it does not explain how a line of effect is created, as it well explains in Pathfinder 1.
Not a line of effect, but for the line of your your shot you compare all of your corners against all of the defenders corners and pick the one most advantageous for the attacker. A way to quicken that with the same results is to have the attacker picks a corner to shoot from then the defender picks a corner to defend from.
Soft cover and hard cover only differ in
Providing reflex save bonuses
How they allow creatures to hide or stay hidden
Whether a line passing along a border provides cover or not.
A Large Wolf that occupies a 10 foot square doesn't occupy the ENTIRE 10 foot square... there's space around the edges, under the belly, over the head, etc. A 10 foot by 10 foot stone square would. That makes it a bit easier to shoot around.
Ah, the universal fun of "do you always have cover in a 5ft wide hallway?"
Ah, the universal fun of "do you always have cover in a 5ft wide hallway?"Well, you would if you had gravity shield or a titan shield up.
At least it's easy enough to argue intent when they have a visual example of the exact situation not providing cover. Even the FAQ answer seems full of exasperation.
It was ruled that you technically would, but they made an exception for 5 foot corridors. Which means that the lines on the map aren't sided, if you're super imposed over a line it means you're running along it. If the line of your shot touches the line of a wall section for more than 1 point its passing along it.