Kobold Catgirl |
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Just a thread for me to talk about whatever. I've been trying to get into the habit of some sort of journaling, and a part of me would sort of like to start reconnecting with this community and see how things have been going. Two birds, one stone.
I realize people don't really know what I'm up to nowadays. It's been years since I was active around here. If anyone's wondering, I went into the teacher education program for a bit, realized it wasn't for me, burned out just before Covid hit. I started transitioning openly around the same time. Changed my legal name just the other month; still need to sort out the paperwork for it.
I've only recently started getting back into D&D. The edTPA—the test teachers have to take to get certified—is a nightmare train that you can only get off by jumping out of, and I lost touch with a lot of my hobbies in the fallout from it all. If people have noticed me being basically absent around here, that's a big part of why.
I've been writing for a living since then, which suits me just fine. I currently have two roommates to support, both of whom I'm dating. It's a "U-haul lesbians" situation. So it's a good thing writing's worked out. Neither of them have jobs yet. Of the three of us, I'm the most "neurotypical-passing", so I can be pretty productive when I need to be. When I'm not obsessing over my D&D characters, anyways.
Hyperfocus is kind of like a roc. It'll pick you up and take you soaring, and you'll forget why you ever bothered walking on the ground. And then it's just dead weight and you're remembering, "Oh, right, I was supposed to write actual prose today. Oops. Well, at least the GM now has 4,000 words to read if she wants to accept my PbP application."
Get it? It's like a roc. Turns into dead weight. Wordplay. It's midnight, I'm going to bed. I hope everyone's having a lovely night.
<3
Mark Hoover 330 |
Once again congrats on all your life changes and declarations KC! I've been lurking on these boards for years but somehow I've largely avoided the "critical voices," at least when it came to Paizo staff. After 12 years of enjoying Paizo products I'm still in fanboy mode every time James Jacobs responds to a post.
Since YOU brought it up KC, you're my hero for "dating" two people and living with them at the same time. I'm honestly in awe of folks such as yourself. I'm an old fart and my heart is as much ruled by jealousy as love so I can't imagine being involved intimately with 2 people at the same time, let alone having all of us live together.
Finally, I have a lot of gamer friends that are either teachers or former teachers and even the ones that got burned out teaching kids, they've all said that the testing, certification, retraining and such are truly torturous. That, and dealing with administrators. Bottom line, I'm happy that you're writing and enjoying your chosen profession!
PS: why not have called it Kobold Cleavings?
Kobold Catgirl |
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I thought about Kobold Cleavings. It was just too late in the evening for me to be sure it was a clever name and not just incomprehensible.
Polyamory is all well and good, but living with them is the real trick. There's no IRL dating during quarantine. It's all-or-nothing. That's not been optimal, and there's definitely been growing pains, but these two are worth it. :)
And yes, the edTPA is a meat grinder. It seems to be designed primarily for neurotypical people whose parents are happy to cover their expenses while they're student teaching. I knew one guy who quit his job for it—I quit teaching instead. :P
captain yesterday |
Yes, that's the plan.
They have a series of short adventures for it, each set in a different season with starting off in winter, then spring, summer, and finally fall.
So far we have my bunny, The General has an armadillo, and Crookshanks made a squirrel and Tiny T-Rex has a chipmunk.
We made it through the first adventure in one night, it was pretty fun!
Kobold Catgirl |
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Kobolds aren't meant to be awesome. They're meant to be yappy underdogs. They know they're awesome, nobody else does. That said, I'm glad Paizo finally woke up to how popular a playable race they are. :P
Plus, 5e's kobolds are unbelievably ugly. No edition has ever matched 3.5's art for the monsters in general, to be honest. Meenlocks feel it too.
EDIT: Erm, sorry, got mixed up with 5e and PF2. PF2's kobolds are fine. Pathfinder's kobolds aren't as good as Midgard's or 3.5's kobolds, but they're fine.
Kobold Catgirl |
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I just Googled Pathfinder 2 kobolds. I didn't know the redesign was that drastic.
They're... fine. Sorry, don't wanna be negative. They're cute. It's a good idea for kobolds. It's better than PF1's kobolds, definitely. "They changed it. Now it's not as good, because it's not what I grew up with." They aren't supposed to be that stocky, or that snakelike/lizardy. They're cute, though. They're basically stocky technicolored lizardfolk. What happened to the confused lizard-rat-dog axis they always drifted between?
captain yesterday |
I just Googled Pathfinder 2 kobolds. I didn't know the redesign was that drastic.
They're... fine. Sorry, don't wanna be negative. They're cute. It's a good idea for kobolds. It's better than PF1's kobolds, definitely. "They changed it. Now it's not as good, because it's not what I grew up with." They aren't supposed to be that stocky, or that snakelike/lizardy. They're cute, though. They're basically stocky technicolored lizardfolk. What happened to the confused lizard-rat-dog axis they always drifted between?
I think they're supposed to be more dragon like, they tend to resemble their draconic overlords depending on their color.
Kobold Catgirl |
Honestly, I just really like 3.5's monster art. It's a high D&D/Pathfinder have never quite matched—the variety of styles led to genuinely iconic images. Everyone recognizes the 3.5 rust monster, ghoul or kobold. The meenlock in particular from 3.5 was just a gorgeous and uniquely horrifying creature. They keep trying to top it. They can't.
I'm also a nostalgic dork and it's what I grew up with. So, y'know.
Anyways, tonight I am obsessively refreshing the Online Campaigns forum to see if I've been accepted out of 20 applicants to a PbP. I swear, at this point I don't even know what I'd do if I actually got in.
Freehold DM |
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I just Googled Pathfinder 2 kobolds. I didn't know the redesign was that drastic.
They're... fine. Sorry, don't wanna be negative. They're cute. It's a good idea for kobolds. It's better than PF1's kobolds, definitely. "They changed it. Now it's not as good, because it's not what I grew up with." They aren't supposed to be that stocky, or that snakelike/lizardy. They're cute, though. They're basically stocky technicolored lizardfolk. What happened to the confused lizard-rat-dog axis they always drifted between?
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Terlizzi Kobolds?Kobold Catgirl |
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Kobold Cleaver wrote:I currently have two roommates to support, both of whom I'm dating. It's a "U-haul lesbians" situation.
<3
Why.
Why are you living my dream.
Trust me, polyamory is as much trouble as you'd expect. I love my girlfriends, but if I could have both of them in a one-person package, it would be a lot easier on, among other things, my grocery bill. :P
I actually really like those kobolds! A bit heavy on the "dograt" side of thing, but they feel like kobolds. I'd rate them very close to PF2's kobolds—maybe slightly lower because I'm attached to lizardy kobolds, maybe slightly higher because his style is gorgeous.
My ratings probably currently look like:
3.5/Midgard kobolds: Cute yappy scrawny lizardratdog people. I really like how they visually contrast with Pathfinder goblins.
DiTerlizzi's kobolds: Weird little bulgey-eyed ratdog people. Like something out of the Spiderwick Chronicles (wow, that takes me back). I'd watch a whole movie in his style.
Pathfinder 2e's kobolds: Creative, quirky, dynamic-shifting. I don't think it'll stick like 3'5's did, but I wouldn't be so sad if it did.
"Popular Consciousness" Kobolds: If you go onto social media and see what fanart people are drawing, kobolds have been gracefully added into the inexplicably horny pantheon of D&D races, be they scaly or furry. I see a lot of shorter snouts, a lot of wider hips, cutesey eyes, etc. I think it's cute. They aren't my kobolds, but I'm glad these people are trying new things to make kobolds appeal to them, and I always support new creative takes on old concepts—we wouldn't have DiTerlizzi's kobolds without a welcoming stage for experimentation.
Pathfinder Kobolds: Basically 3.5's kobolds but slightly worse. Pathfinder was also really weirdly big on making kobolds look more "tribal", weren't they? Paizo art always had them with bone piercings and feathers in their scales and all kinds of needlessly dodgy ideas like that. Guys, they're Lawful Evil. They're not the tribe, they're the empire. Gnomes are the tribe, if anyone would be.
5e/pre-third edition kobolds: God, they're regressing. 4e's kobolds are a hair below this.
Kobolds Ate My Baby kobolds: They're fine, but they're just a precursor to Pathfinder goblins, who did the shtick better.
World of Warcraft kobolds: The less said about this design, the better, in my opinion.
As a word of advice to the GMs out there, it pays to leave things ambiguous when it comes to races like kobolds. Different players have different expectations, and a lot of them might be disappointed to learn that their PC doesn't look how they expect. So let them have their interpretation, and keep yours to yourself unless people ask. "Schrodinger's Fantasy Race" is a good approach when it comes to defining what kobolds or goblins look like.
Freehold DM |
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Freehold DM wrote:Kobold Cleaver wrote:I currently have two roommates to support, both of whom I'm dating. It's a "U-haul lesbians" situation.
<3
Why.
Why are you living my dream.
Trust me, polyamory is as much trouble as you'd expect. I love my girlfriends, but if I could have both of them in a one-person package, it would be a lot easier on, among other things, my grocery bill. :P
I actually really like those kobolds! A bit heavy on the "dograt" side of thing, but they feel like kobolds. I'd rate them very close to PF2's kobolds—maybe slightly lower because I'm attached to lizardy kobolds, maybe slightly higher because his style is gorgeous.
My ratings probably currently look like:
3.5/Midgard kobolds: Cute yappy scrawny lizardratdog people. I really like how they visually contrast with Pathfinder goblins.
DiTerlizzi's kobolds: Weird little bulgey-eyed ratdog people. Like something out of the Spiderwick Chronicles (wow, that takes me back). I'd watch a whole movie in his style.
Pathfinder 2e's kobolds: Creative, quirky, dynamic-shifting. I don't think it'll stick like 3'5's did, but I wouldn't be so sad if it did.
"Popular Consciousness" Kobolds: If you go onto social media and see what fanart people are drawing, kobolds have been gracefully added into the inexplicably horny pantheon of D&D races, be they scaly or furry. I see a lot of shorter snouts, a lot of wider hips, cutesey eyes, etc. I think it's cute. They aren't my kobolds, but I'm glad these people are trying new things to make kobolds appeal to them, and I always support new creative takes on old concepts—we wouldn't have DiTerlizzi's kobolds without a welcoming stage for experimentation.
Pathfinder Kobolds: Basically 3.5's kobolds but slightly worse. Pathfinder was also really weirdly big on making kobolds look more "tribal", weren't they? Paizo art always had them with bone piercings and feathers in their scales and all kinds of needlessly dodgy ideas like that. Guys, they're Lawful...
in Freehold!, kobolds are a servitor race that any female dragon can bring into being by a simple gesture. 2d4 kobolds will emerge from the egg, fully grown, and will tend to the mother dragon as a combination majordomo/warrior. They are smart without being so smart they would endanger the dragon, seem to be genderless although they have a certain charming appeal due to their intonation that cause them to purr when speaking all languages and they are known to rub up against one another as well as the dragon that created them in to generate heat that some would call carnal, and are capable of savage, trespasser-skeletonizing ambushes when in great numbers, and trespasser-smashing traps in their primary role as egg protectors.
Kobold Catgirl |
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My flavor for kobolds, regardless of origins, tends to emphasize how deeply social they are—kobolds might be mean arrogant Lawful Evil yappy lizardrat cowards, but they're also extremely cuddly with each other and very community-minded. Kobold PCs have to deal with being denied the touch and company they were used to, which leads to lots of surrogate bonds forming with partymembers. I think it's fun, and makes redemptions easier for kobold outcasts.
In one setting I ran, kobolds were as above, but with the added detail that their service to dragons is a) nondiscriminate (a pseudodragon or wyvern could attract just as large a clan as a great wyrm bronze dragon), and b) generally entirely without the dragon master's knowledge. Kobolds are like house fairies. Dragons think of them as folk tales, and don't believe they exist—they just assume their messes get cleaned up on their own, since even good-aligned dragons are pretty lazy and full of themselves. Adventurers might wade through a whole warren of deadly traps only for the red dragon to snort derisively as they start bringing up their "superstitions" of these "magical little dragon men".
Kobold Catgirl |
I never played it, but he seems like the kobold version of the Drizz't clones—a member of a monstrous race who seems to have no connection to his kind. I generally like the idea that kobolds are generally more Lawful than they are Evil, so a Chaotic Good kobold is a stretch for me.
Which isn't to say he's bad, but I feel like he could've been any small-sized race and he would have been exactly the same. They should've made him more arrogant, or Lawful, if they wanted to create a proper kobold bard.
Master Pugwampi |
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The impression I get is that the devs really didn't like monster races—JJacobs is on record as saying he'd kind of rather humans be the only playable race, isn't he?
There's a weird grudge against kobolds in general. Eberron had it too.
Feh. At least kobolds are a playable race/ancestry in PF1 and PF2. They just introduced a tiny Fey race option and still no love for gremlins! And anyway, how bad could the art on 5e kobolds be anyway...
*looks at kobold art in 5e MM*
...what the hell is that?!? It looks like a short lizardman crossed with a devil!
Kobold Catgirl |
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I'm about to start running two Age of Worms PbPs on the forums. That's probably a mistake. We'll see! At least I have plenty of ideas for improving things on the second go-around. I'm gonna try to actually get some work-work done tomorrow morning, though. I am behind on my writing, and sooner or later the readers are going to notice.
Mark Hoover 330 |
Cleavey McKoboldpants, you have thought about kobolds a lot, and thus took a screen name that reflects that. In the same vein, I should probably have an alias on these boards that has something to do with mites.
Kobolds in PF1 have the benefit of having large tribal structures. There may be as many as 400 plus elites/rulers in a tribe. If you want an underdog, at least in PF1, look no further than the humble mite.
They have a tribal structure, in lair, no greater than 20 with 1 ruler. They get to control vermin, which is great, but otherwise they have weak attacks, defenses consistent with CR 1/4, and their SLA is a minor inconvenience most commoners save against half the time.
In short, without a vermin to command, mites are not really much of a threat at all.
Kobold Catgirl |
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Mite Hoover is actually the perfect equivalent to Kobold Cleaver, considering dust mites' normal experience with vacuum cleavers.
But yeah, mites get a raw deal. They should be playable, really. Paizo came up with this cool new "mook" race and didn't know what to do with them. I actually think they'd be more interesting if they were neutral—sort of a counter to drow's spider loving ways.
Mark Hoover 330 |
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In my own games, mites are always Lawful, though sometimes LN or LG. I really try to play up the whole "rejection of the First World" bit with them, and to me this means divorcing themselves more from Chaos than Neutrality.
For this reason, groups of mites in my games are called Traditions. I've houseruled in that each group of 20 or so in a Tradition are also bolstered by half as many non-combatants. These mites utilize some of the other Fey class skills. For example, did you realize that Fey get Craft as a Class skill? That means Craft: Alchemy... that means, among other things, processing/stabilizing doses of poisons milked from giant vermin.
Since mite Traditions are so small and everyone in the world seems out to get them, usually several Traditions live close to one another. The leaders of each Tradition meet, like Jarls, while the "yeoman" of these groups get together to exchange stories, prank ideas, goods and services, etc. Such get togethers are called Moots.
Each Tradition further identifies itself with a specific TYPE of vermin. While, in desperation, a group of mites may reach out to any Vermin in the area for help, each Tradition prefers to breed and manage one type versus another. So one Tradition may keep hordes of Fire Beetles; another may use Hissing Centipedes; yet another may keep Rock Crabs as underwater draft animals.
Oh yeah, and mites in my game have discovered organized religion, though ironically not always druidism/Green Faith. While mites don't have souls and get no benefit from spells that raise the dead, they still worship forces greater than themselves. Usually control of this worship is housed with the leader of the Tradition, so often mite leaders have a few levels in Cleric, Druid, Oracle, Ranger, Warpriest, Inquisitor or Shaman.
Finally... I raise standard Mite Int in my games to 10. In my own homebrew setting of Karnoss, mites so strongly reject their First World beginnings that they've striven to "civilize" themselves in the same way as their humanoid neighbors do. Mites in the Bestiary are described as
Environment any Underground
but in my game they can be found ANYWHERE Vermin can, often including urban settings.
Mites living in the shadows of a human town for example may actually move AMONG those humans. Some non-combatant mites may have one rank each in Disguise and Linguistics (1 rank from an increased Int score, one rank by trading away Ride). These disguises might not be spectacular, but they usually good enough for mites to appear among easily overlooked or forgettable populations: beggars, street urchins, vagrants and such.
Not only that... mites also adopt the clothing and ways of their local neighbors. Usually they try to emulate what they consider impressive or opulent in the setting, though the fey will always put their own spin on it. So if the style in the city is high-collared cloaks and Gothic attire, a mite could be found wearing a threadbare cloak, the collar made from the chitin of a beetle, while the top hat upon their head is worn and patched.
Point is... if Golarion has mites and Midgar has Kobolds, Karnoss has mites a plenty!
Kobold Catgirl |
Well, I'm really running behind on writing, so my plan is to make tomorrow a Work Day. To accommodate that, starting 8am PDT, I will post here once every hour with my wordcount for that hour. I'll also post here whenever I take a break to go browse Youtube, the forums, or similar online time-killers.
Because, hey, if I'm going to use this thread to ramble on self-indulgently, I might as well put it to good use as a shame motivator.
Master Pugwampi |
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Well, I'm really running behind on writing, so my plan is to make tomorrow a Work Day. To accommodate that, starting 8am PDT, I will post here once every hour with my wordcount for that hour. I'll also post here whenever I take a break to go browse Youtube, the forums, or similar online time-killers.
Because, hey, if I'm going to use this thread to ramble on self-indulgently, I might as well put it to good use as a shame motivator.
...and I'll help by looking on, shaking my head somberly, and saying, "Tsk, tsk, tsk!"
>:)
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No longer being a member of the workforce, "waking up a little late" means I've slept so long that Buster is threatening to pee in my shoe because we've not been for a walk yet.
But on the flipside of that, a lifetime of school, then college, then working caused me, like so many millions of others, to really anticipate weekends. It's so ingrained into me that while I haven't been able to work since 2007 I STILL get excited about Friday afternoons.