Kirbdog |
I need some solid clarification regarding
this combat action. My party has been looking
for days at old threads and what not, and we seem
to agree but then find something that throws it off.
Here's the scenario-
1) Hunter's mountain lion attacks-
He hits with a bite and now gets his plus grab,
the lion makes his CMB roll for the grab and latch's on with its mouth/bite, and starting the grapple.
2) The bad guy goes.
Say the bad guy try's to break the hold, but fails.
3) The mountain lion attacks again.
It rolls CMB at +5 and say, maintains its grab. Its now fully grappled.
(does the bite it maintained get auto-damage?)
Additionally, since it now made the +5CMB roll the lion gets the Rake ability.
(is that all the lion gets for damage? Auto damage from bite and rake?
Then repeats step 2 and 3 if need be?
**If this is incorrect, how does the lion get his Rake attack, step by step?**
Thanks for your help and insight.
Cavall |
This is correct. You would gain +5 to maintain (+4 more for having Grab, assuming that factored in already)
The bite gets auto damage.
Because you maintained the bite, you get rake.
That's all the attacks you'll get if you go this as grapple is a standard action to maintain.
There are other options you can get when you maintain a grapple. One of these is a natural attack, which would be a claw as the bite has already been used, or you could pin or move or other grapple options. I am fairly sure you may still do this as part of maintaining a grapple. If I am incorrect someone please correct me
GeraintElberion |
I would go for the pin, you miss the bite damage but still get the rake and pin is a good condition.
Then you can do bite+rake every round that you maintain.
I really like the Pathfinder Grapple FLowchart at times like this.