Lost Omens: Mwangi Expanse with 6 new ancestries.


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Nantambu’s populace boasts dozens of different ancestries, from Ekujae elves to Jaha lizardfolk, gnolls to catfolk. Here one can find even the most reclusive of Mwangi peoples, such as the shy anadi, many-eyed goloma, bone-feathered shisks, or inevitable-worshipping conrasu with their elaborate biological machines and living wooden exoskeletons.

So Gnolls, Anadi, Conrasu, Goloma, Shisks and Grippli.

Nice.


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Super excited for Anadi, they've been my most wanted ancestry since they were shown off. And a TON of people are going to be happy with Gnolls being a thing.

Was any artwork shown for conrasu, goloma, or shisks? They sound super interesting.

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Salamileg wrote:

Super excited for Anadi, they've been my most wanted ancestry since they were shown off. And a TON of people are going to be happy with Gnolls being a thing.

Was any artwork shown for conrasu, goloma, or shisks? They sound super interesting.

Not yet, unfortunately.


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I’m actually the happiest gal on the planet rn. This rules!! Here’s hoping for an Arcadia book eventually to complete my wishlist, but I’m just giddy to have gnolls!


Sounds awesome!


Oh this is absolutely baller.


Damn, these are some wild ancestries. The existing Anadi art is adorable so excited to see more details on them.

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Not spoiling this info (which we've been working on for MANY months) has been a test of my patience! I'm so relieved we've finally been able to announce it and we don't have to be all "Mmmm I dunno" when people keep asking for exactly what this book is focusing on. YAY! :-)


Where was this announced? I can't find anything anywhere, just this and some reddit post mentioning the same information.


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James Jacobs wrote:
Not spoiling this info (which we've been working on for MANY months) has been a test of my patience! I'm so relieved we've finally been able to announce it and we don't have to be all "Mmmm I dunno" when people keep asking for exactly what this book is focusing on. YAY! :-)

Well, clearly the cat's out of the bag now so you can tell us if conrasu operate in their day to day lives in those exoskeletons? I'm imagining those cartoon gags about a dangerous enemy actually being a robot piloted by a very small person and am wondering if I should temper that expectation.

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Where was this announced? I can't find anything anywhere, just this and some reddit post mentioning the same information.

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Oh no! I missed that! Any way we can re-watch it at some point later?

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James Jacobs wrote:
Not spoiling this info (which we've been working on for MANY months) has been a test of my patience! I'm so relieved we've finally been able to announce it and we don't have to be all "Mmmm I dunno" when people keep asking for exactly what this book is focusing on. YAY! :-)

I love companies that listen to their customer base.

Gnolls AND Anadi??? And this is taking place in the MWangi with a KILLER AP the following month??

This is amazing!!


So, question- do any of these races have hair?

Other than orcs (and maybe leshy if you are creative), I've noticed that most of the other noncore ancestries don't really have hair, since they go fairly heavy on the animal-like race scale with the version of art in this edition.

Not saying that those races are bad. just noting the room for more variety.


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Is this just about Mwangi Expanse non-human ancestries, or is it setting product giving broad info including about native Humans ethnicites and nations who dwell is Mwangi Expanse and/or Southern Garund? It sounds like it is Mwangi Expanse-centric, but alot of those races have been associated to Southern Garund AFAIK, so not sure if this meant for Mwangi+Southern Garund asa a whole or what... Seems plausible there could be other native ethnic groups in Southern Garund besides Mwangi, even if they also extend south also...?

Is it correct an AP will be coordinated with this release? Any other announcements along with this?

...I didn't see this PAX stream and don't know where to look it up :-)


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The Strength of Thousands Adventure Path. Also, the Mwangi book will talk about all the ancestries present in the Mwangi Expanse. Doesn't seem like it will also cover southern Garund but it will likely be referenced, I'd be surprised if there wasn't at least a bit of south Garund lore.

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JackieLane wrote:
Oh no! I missed that! Any way we can re-watch it at some point later?

Looks like the VOD is up on PAX's Twitch already here !

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Arachnofiend wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Not spoiling this info (which we've been working on for MANY months) has been a test of my patience! I'm so relieved we've finally been able to announce it and we don't have to be all "Mmmm I dunno" when people keep asking for exactly what this book is focusing on. YAY! :-)
Well, clearly the cat's out of the bag now so you can tell us if conrasu operate in their day to day lives in those exoskeletons? I'm imagining those cartoon gags about a dangerous enemy actually being a robot piloted by a very small person and am wondering if I should temper that expectation.

Don't mistake "We can tell you we're working on this book due out in about a year" for "We can now tell you everything about this book!"

But I can say this—I'm not interested in turning ANY ancestry into a joke, so don't worry about Men in Black style goofy going on with the conrasu.

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Should be some good things for Magic-Users in the book, wizards at least.

Speculating the ancestries will be: Gnoll & Grippli uncommon and the rest rare.

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Donald wrote:

Should be some good things for Magic-Users in the book, wizards at least.

Speculating the ancestries will be: Gnoll & Grippli uncommon and the rest rare.

I pray for all the Gods in Golarion that you are right. The opression must end. Pray with me fellow wizards....


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Since "Gnoll Librarian plays tug of war with book, while friendly spider friend offers you cheese" is my favorite piece of RPG art ever, I an excited.


kayman wrote:
Donald wrote:

Should be some good things for Magic-Users in the book, wizards at least.

Speculating the ancestries will be: Gnoll & Grippli uncommon and the rest rare.

I pray for all the Gods in Golarion that you are right. The opression must end. Pray with me fellow wizards....

"What do I look like, a cleric?"


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Gnolls! ❤

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lemeres wrote:
kayman wrote:
Donald wrote:

Should be some good things for Magic-Users in the book, wizards at least.

Speculating the ancestries will be: Gnoll & Grippli uncommon and the rest rare.

I pray for all the Gods in Golarion that you are right. The opression must end. Pray with me fellow wizards....

"What do I look like, a cleric?"

kkkkkkkkk...

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This book and Secrets of Magic are the last hope for us spellcasters...I pray that the spirit of Old Mage Jatembe enlighten the designers of Paizo.


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Arachnofiend wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Not spoiling this info (which we've been working on for MANY months) has been a test of my patience! I'm so relieved we've finally been able to announce it and we don't have to be all "Mmmm I dunno" when people keep asking for exactly what this book is focusing on. YAY! :-)
Well, clearly the cat's out of the bag now so you can tell us if conrasu operate in their day to day lives in those exoskeletons? I'm imagining those cartoon gags about a dangerous enemy actually being a robot piloted by a very small person and am wondering if I should temper that expectation.

Don't mistake "We can tell you we're working on this book due out in about a year" for "We can now tell you everything about this book!"

But I can say this—I'm not interested in turning ANY ancestry into a joke, so don't worry about Men in Black style goofy going on with the conrasu.

So uh, just to clarify despite the comparison I made I wasn't actually expecting the conrasu to be a gag ancestry. There is plenty of opportunity for a small ancestry that is considered medium due to their fantasy mechs to be quite cool.

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I hope at least a couple of them are opened up to everyone in PFS. Particularly Gnoll and Gripli. But really any of them as long as a couple are available without a cert.

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Wizards are already fine but I am sure there will be some flavourful spells included. I am glad that adventuring with a wizard isn't the equivalent of being body guards for a minor God.


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Grippli! ♡

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I do like trends for regions that isn't avistan tending to have their own six ancestries(whether including humans or not) so you could pretty easily provide alternate set of "core" ancestries for any particular continent or wider region :3

Anyhoo, pretty hyped for Goloma, Shisk and Konrasu ;D I wonder if I should next work on seeing if the two new ancestries from Vudra get brought back again eventually


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What are Conrasu, Goloma, and Shisks? Googling them didn't turn up anything useful. Can't even seem to find a pic.

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Ravingdork wrote:
What are Conrasu, Goloma, and Shisks? Googling them didn't turn up anything useful. Can't even seem to find a pic.

Effectively, entirely new Ancestries. They've been mentioned very briefly before, but not in any more detail than the first post of this thread.


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Man, I saw James comment in another thread about some of these ancestries and the impression I got was that it was a 'maybe in a couple years' kind of deal.

This is super neat.


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Ravingdork wrote:
What are Conrasu, Goloma, and Shisks? Googling them didn't turn up anything useful. Can't even seem to find a pic.

There's just one sentence in the World Guide, in the section about Nantambu:

Lost Omens World Guide, p. 90 wrote:
Here one can find even the most reclusive of Mwangi peoples, such as the shy anadi, many-eyed goloma, bone-feathered shisks, or inevitable-worshipping conrasu with their elaborate biological machines and living wooden exoskeletons.


Gnolls, Anadi, and Grippli. Can't say I'm super psyched for these. Always good to have more content but these don't do anything for me.

Conrasu, Goloma, and Shisks. I'll be interested to see what they look like [mechanically AND physically]. The blurb makes them sound... curious? I don't know if they'll be odd in a bad way or a good way. ;)


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The Anadi are probably the most interesting and unique potential ancestry I have ever seen and I have been waiting with baited breath for them to be playable.

Gnolls are probably in my top 10 of existing/traditional "monster" races so am really excited for them too.


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Yeah, honestly I would buy a book with just anadi and gnolls in it. Grippli too, plus three mysterious new ancestries, sounds amazing.


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Curious if the Gnoll will have a Flind related Heritage. Need my nunchuck doggos.


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Super looking forward to Grippli, I love frogs, and I dig their pf1e ability score boosts (Dex/Wis, -Strength)


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Super looking forward to Grippli, I love frogs, and I dig their pf1e ability score boosts (Dex/Wis, -Strength)

I'm also looking forward to Grippli. I do hope we get a lot more information about their history and culture than we did in PF1.


Gnolls, Anadi, awesome. New races good to see.

Grippli,meh.


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So, do we want to take a stab at what the Goloma, Shisks, and Conrasu might be?

The one's we know the most about, thus far, are the Conrasu. LOWG describes them as an "Inevitable-worshiping" people, with "elaborate biological machines and living wooden exoskeletons." Which, sounds cool on it's own.

Allie and Luis further describe them as a kind of "cocoon people" who are "waiting to be possessed" by Aeons, with "bio-mechnaical bodies, made of plant matter and wood."

All of this makes them sound like Metapod and Kakuna, if they were possessed by spirits of law, and wore Iron Man suits made of wood and plants. And her comment about not liking bugs makes me think they will, in fact, be bugs.

Same with the Goloma. Many eyes doesn't define a lot, but it is evocative of either insecets or maybe Aberrations. Coincidentally, there is a kind of moth from Guatemala called the Ormetica goloma. So, maybe Mothfolk?

The Shisks sound like they could possibly be a Avian people with "bone feathers"? Being a Jungle, I can see them being tropical birds of some descript. Decidedly less Corvid like than our friends the Tengu. That would be neat.


Ly'ualdre wrote:
Many eyes doesn't define a lot, but it is evocative of either insecets or maybe Aberrations.

Could be like a Dodomeki [hundred hundred eye yokai].

Ly'ualdre wrote:
Coincidentally, there is a kind of moth from Guatemala called the Ormetica goloma.

Goloma is the plural version of the Slovenian gol which means naked. So maybe it's a race of exhibitionists?


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Soft, fluffy, naked moth maidens?

graystone wrote:
Ly'ualdre wrote:
Many eyes doesn't define a lot, but it is evocative of either insecets or maybe Aberrations.
Could be like a Dodomeki [hundred hundred eye yokai].

That's probably what it is.


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This book is going to have the most eyes per ancestry of any pathfinder book ever, particularly because the Anadi probably have eight.

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PossibleCabbage wrote:
This book is going to have the most eyes per ancestry of any pathfinder book ever, particularly because the Anadi probably have eight.

Their natural form looks to have only two. Their spider form does indeed, naturally, have eight.


So will the Anadi be our first ancestry where we get "changes shape" as part of their kit? I'm interested to see how that will be handled since I know there are a lot of Kitsune fans out there.


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PossibleCabbage wrote:
So will the Anadi be our first ancestry where we get "changes shape" as part of their kit? I'm interested to see how that will be handled since I know there are a lot of Kitsune fans out there.

Kitsune will be first in february with the LO Ancestry Guide


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Dodomeki would be cool, but in a region inspired by laregly African culture? Probably not. Also, correct me if I wrong, but they were confirmed as monsters in Bestiary 3. Dodomeki that is.

I'm strangely down for the exhibitionist moth people, if for nothing more than the hilarity of the idea.

Also, I'd wager Anadi, and Kitsune for that matter, will allow Change Shape through a feat before it is an innate Ancestry ability.

EDIT: Oooo! As a side note, am I the only one who really hopes to see a new family of True Dragons native to Garund?!


Would be pretty cool to have an ancestry with eyes all around their head who can't be flanked.....not sure if they'd be too powerful or not

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