The magic hack rules say you can only apply one hack to a spell at a time but doesn't as far as I can see prohibit taking a specific hack multiple times. Things like magic library especially are things you or at least I would like to take multiple times.
I don't believe you can unless the magic hack says 'you can take this magic hack more than once'. Just like feats, operative tricks, envoy improvs, etc.
Garretmander wrote: I don't believe you can unless the magic hack says 'you can take this magic hack more than once'. Just like feats, operative tricks, envoy improvs, etc. Do you have a rule on that or is it just an assumption they work the same as feats? Its not just the magic hacks there's a few mechanic tricks that'd be worth taking twice and I assume for other class abilities.
I presume you cannot take them more than once.
Though I'm unable to find that language in the rules, I'm also unable to find any hacks that say you can take this hack more than once.
Generally, character abilities can't be taken more than once unless the ability states it, and even then, it's usually a thing where the ability does more than one thing and you choose an effect when you take it, and subsequent 'takings' of the ability want you to choose a different aspect.
TLDR; Paizo games usually specify if you can take something multiple times, magic hacks don't say that, so my guess is no.
The language is there for mechanic tricks, operative exploits, solarian revelations, and feats.
I'm not seeing it for envoy improvisations, gear boosts, or magic hacks. Which to me, sounds like an oversight, and not the rules allowing it, but...
Its puzzling me too because things like eternal spell can be useful for a number of spells i.e. taking it multiple times.
I certainly make as my ruling that, in general, you can only ever take a given character ability more than once if it applies to different things. Or phrased differently, a character ability can never stack with itself.
So, if a given ability could logically be applied without self-stacking, great! You can buy it multiple times if you want. However, even if for whatever reason the ability's writeup doesn't already prevent self-stacking ( via type bonus, say )? Still can't stack it with itself. Only explicit unambiguous rules stating both that an ability can be stacked with itself, and how exactly it does so, would get me to approve such.
Metaphysician wrote: I certainly make as my ruling that, in general, you can only ever take a given character ability more than once if it applies to different things. Or phrased differently, a character ability can never stack with itself.
So, if a given ability could logically be applied without self-stacking, great! You can buy it multiple times if you want. However, even if for whatever reason the ability's writeup doesn't already prevent self-stacking ( via type bonus, say )? Still can't stack it with itself. Only explicit unambiguous rules stating both that an ability can be stacked with itself, and how exactly it does so, would get me to approve such.
So by your ruling spell library would be a no as it stacks with itself 1 spell per level, 2 spells per level. However eternal spell would be a yes as each time you take it you pick a different 1st level spell to become a cantrip for constant casting?
Senko wrote: Metaphysician wrote: I certainly make as my ruling that, in general, you can only ever take a given character ability more than once if it applies to different things. Or phrased differently, a character ability can never stack with itself.
So, if a given ability could logically be applied without self-stacking, great! You can buy it multiple times if you want. However, even if for whatever reason the ability's writeup doesn't already prevent self-stacking ( via type bonus, say )? Still can't stack it with itself. Only explicit unambiguous rules stating both that an ability can be stacked with itself, and how exactly it does so, would get me to approve such.
So by your ruling spell library would be a no as it stacks with itself 1 spell per level, 2 spells per level. However eternal spell would be a yes as each time you take it you pick a different 1st level spell to become a cantrip for constant casting? That is how I would interpret my general house rule, yes. However, bare in mind that I probably would *also* house rule Spell Library to say "You can purchase this hack multiple times, each time giving you another spell of each level", or something of the sort. I tend to think Paizo overvalues "size of spell library", and it is a high level Spell Hack.
Fair enough there are a growing number of spells and a reason the wizard remained popular as a class (aside from spell power). Its why I think that hack should be possible to be taken multiple times as well.
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