CUP / OGL application to Torment and Legacy


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Envoy's Alliance

Pathfinder Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Hi all,

I’m working to create a demo world for a VTT based off of Torment and Legacy. The PF2e conversion is non-commercial and everything so far complied with the CUP and OGL. We would like to offer the scenario as a pre-made module for people to try out PF2e utilizing only CC0 material as well as what is contained within the free Torment and Legacy PDF or otherwise provided by Paizo for community use.

I don’t know if this is permissible because I think that the story would be Paizo IP, but since it is offered for free it is a bit of a grey area. All the BTT would do is take the package from PDF form and turn it into a module with appropriate disclaimers regarding the CUP and OGL.

As a side note I did email licensing@paizo.com about this but with COVID-19 slowing things down I have no idea if or when I’ll get a reply and was hoping someone on the forums might have run into something like this (or similar) with the Paizo free scenarios.

Thank you!


Pathfinder Adventure, Adventure Path, Lost Omens, PF Special Edition, Starfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Maps and token artwork will be your main issue I think. The CUP outlines what artwork you can use, which largely limits you to the blog and community use package. Maps and other art from PDFs are not included in the CUP, not even if the PDF is free.

The FAQ has some additional information on the CUP, and I recommend checking it out (would link it but I’m on mobile and in a bit of a rush right now, sorry).

Envoy's Alliance

Pathfinder Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
skizzerz wrote:

Maps and token artwork will be your main issue I think. The CUP outlines what artwork you can use, which largely limits you to the blog and community use package. Maps and other art from PDFs are not included in the CUP, not even if the PDF is free.

The FAQ has some additional information on the CUP, and I recommend checking it out (would link it but I’m on mobile and in a bit of a rush right now, sorry).

Thanks for the reply!

I made the map myself and the artwork is sourced from the Paizo blogs so per the CUP it can be used. The rest of the audio and images are available per CC0 license or created myself and issued under CC0. Mostly it is the actual scenario that I’m wondering about. The text to the scenario itself since that is included. Nominally that is the key IP, but Paizo also gives it away for free so that is the grey area to me :S.

As part of the volunteer developer team Of the PF2e system for Foundry we want to do everything by the book as we eventually want Paizo to (or allow others to) have a similar system for purchasing art and PFS scenarios/adventures/APs as roll20 or FG.


Pathfinder Adventure, Adventure Path, Lost Omens, PF Special Edition, Starfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

For the scenario text, see this FAQ entry. You may be able to get permission from Paizo to directly copy the text (hopefully they respond to your email to licensing@). Note that certain text (such as stat blocks) is covered by the OGL and can be copied under that license.

For official modules on other VTT, Paizo just licenses that content and it’s up to the VTT to build up the actual module. I don’t know many details beyond that but you should definitely get in touch with the licensing email for more details if that interests you.

Envoy's Alliance

Pathfinder Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Thanks again!

I guess I just have to wait for them to reply :)

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