Spider Climber operative exploit


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[SFS Legal] Spider Climber (Su)
Source Character Operations Manual pg. 83
You can traverse surfaces—even perfectly smooth or vertical ones—with as little effort as a spider. You gain spider climb as a constant spell-like ability. If your spider climb spell is dispelled or dismissed, you can spend 5 minutes of uninterrupted concentration to reestablish it. You must have a climb speed to choose this exploit.

.... you have to have a climb speed to chose this exploit, but all of the abilities it gives you are already included in a climb speed. Am I missing something or is this a prone shooter option?


It lets you walk on ceilings and... that's it?


Garretmander wrote:
It lets you walk on ceilings and... that's it?

I don't see anything that says you can't climb a ceiling otherwise? You specifically can with athletics as long as there are handholds


less points of contact required?

Silver Crusade

Athletics rules for climbing state that you can climb a ceiling or an overhang, but with handholds only and even that is already dc 30. From what I read, spiderclimb allows you to do this while there are no handholds at all, like a spider.

You also forgo the need to make climbing checks at all, even in hazardous situations, a normal climb speed does not grant you this.

So Climb speed left, spider climb right.

Overhangs with handholds--any suitable surface, upside down or otherwise.
Can take 10 in hazardous circumstances--no need to make a check at all.


Richter Harding wrote:

You also forgo the need to make climbing checks at all, even in hazardous situations, a normal climb speed does not grant you this.

It does grant you a +8 bonus and the ability to take 10 , So you're starting an an 18. A 10th level operative should be able to make any check in the game with that.

Silver Crusade

From the abilities description I read that you can climb any smooth surface, upside down or otherwise. This means you can stick to the ceiling like spiderman.

Normally you cannot do this as you can only climb an overhang with handholds, requiring a check, you need handhold or you cannot climb it.

Spiderclimb makes you spiderman, no need for checks on any solid surface, smooth or otherwise.

A climb speed kasatha operative can hang from a ceiling with handholds and fire their pistol without falling.

A spider climb kasatha operative can hang from a polished marble ceiling with no handholds and fire their sniper rifle without falling.

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