Wielding a Reload 0 Thrown Weapon, When is it Actually Wielded?


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We know that the rules state

Wielding Items wrote:
Some abilities require you to wield an item, typically a weapon. You’re wielding an item any time you’re holding it in the number of hands needed to use it effectively. When wielding an item, you’re not just carrying it around—you’re ready to use it. Other abilities might require you to merely carry or have an item. These apply as long as you have the item on your person; you don’t have to wield it.

But for instance using a weapon like a shuriken that is thrown with Reload 0 do I really have to take an action to draw one before using feats such as Hunted Shot. It just seems odd that I can draw the ammo for a bow as part of such a strike but since the thrown weapon is the weapon it's not being wielded since I'm not walking around with one in hand.


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I'm pretty sure your interpretation is correct, though. You're not wielding a weapon if you aren't holding it. Reload 0 doesn't change that requirement, it just means you don't have to worry about spending any actions to redraw.

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It just seems odd that I can draw the ammo for a bow as part of such a strike but since the thrown weapon is the weapon it's not being wielded since I'm not walking around with one in hand.

In both cases you need to have the weapon in hand before you can make the attack, though. You can't do this with your bow on your back either.


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right but the bow is no more ready to be fired without an arrow as a hand is without the throwing weapon. Yet the undrawn arrow can be drawn and fired but the thrown weapon can't be.


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What's worse is that if you're in a ranged stance, you drop out of it once you throw the shuriken: you start the next round/action without the required wielded weapon. Returning fixes this but it doesn't prevent it from being lame.


I mean for now its not really an issue since there is only 1 thrown with Reload 0 and its uncommon but would be nice to know.

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