Blackjack Power 3


Rules Questions and Gameplay Discussion


Blackjack power 3 wrote:
"□ When you would recharge, shuffle, discard, or bury a boon for your character or role power, you may reload a Blackjack boon instead."

This power is obviously very powerful, though it can only work on the Blackjack's powers or powers on your base card.

So what powers does it work on?

Let's pull out a few powers that are questionable:

Athnul, Monk Class deck:
You may reveal a blessing to evade your encounter. (□ Then you may recharge that
blessing to explore your location.)

Can you reload a Blackjack boon instead of recharging the blessing to explore?

Raz, Paladin Class deck:
You may discard the top card of your deck to add 1d6 (□+1) to your check. If that card has the Mount trait, you may recharge it instead.

Can you reload a Blackjack boon instead of discarding the top card of your deck? What if the top of the deck is a monster (let's say some friendly summoner gave you a monster to hold and you managed to reload it.) What if there's a monster in your deck and you don't know if the top card of your deck is a boon?

Lirianne, Gunslinger Class deck:
When you play a card that has the Firearm trait, if you would bury (□ or discard) (□ or recharge) it or shuffle it into your deck, you may keep it and perform the required action with another card instead.

Can you reload a Blackjack boon to substitute against "perform the required action with another card instead"?

Lirianne, Gunslinger Class deck:
When you encounter a monster, you may examine the top card of your deck. If it has the Firearm trait, you may draw it; otherwise, recharge it. (□ You may then recharge a card that has the Firearm trait from your discard pile.)

Can you reload a Blackjack boon to substitute against the "recharge it" part of the character power? What about the "recharge a card that has the Firearm trait from your discard pile."? (These don't do anything useful, but I still want to know.)

Zelhara, Hell's Vengeance Character deck 2:
A character at your location may bury an ally ( or a card that has the Corrupted trait) from her discard pile; if she does, shuffle a random card ( or 2 random cards) from your discard pile into your deck.

If you are the one that buries an ally, can you use reload a Blackjack boon instead?

Celeste, Pathfinder Tales Character deck:
You automatically succeed at your check to recharge a spell that has the Arcane trait. ( You may shuffle it into your deck instead.)

Are you allowed to reload a Blackjack boon to substitute the "shuffle it into your deck instead" part? If so, what happens to the original spell?

Imrijka, Inquisitor class deck:
You may recharge a card that has the Divine trait to add (□ 1 of that card’s traits and) 1d4 to a combat check by a character at another location (□ or your location).

If you reload a Blackjack boon and the feat box is checked, you have to add 1 of the Blackjack boon's traits, correct? Also, do you have to have a card that has the Divine trait to invoke the power still, or do you just need the Blackjack boon?

More Blackjack questions as I think of some.


Huh. Interesting questions.

My initial impressions:

Athnul - I see no reason why not. You're recharging a boon. Just because you did something else with it previously doesn't change that.

Raz - ... My instinct is that it works, but how it would interact with banes in the deck, I have no idea. (Then again, maybe a card in a face down stack isn't considered a boon or a bane, like in MtG? I could see that, though I've never heard it stated.)

Lirianne 1 - It could be argued that you're performing the action for the Firearm, rather than for her character power. But maybe you're doing it for both?

Lirianne 2 - Again, my instinct is that it works (albeit uselessly) but it's also possible that only the discards part works.

Zelhara - Again I see no reason why not. You're burying a card for your character power, who cares that there were other options?

Celeste - As with Lirianne 1, it's arguably shuffling in for the card's power, and not the character power.
If it is allowed, though, I suppose the spell would stay where it is - in recovery - and then be banished at the end of the turn.

Imrijka - I think you would still need a Divine card. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to activate the power in the first place, right?
I also would think that you still add one of the traits of the Divine card. But I'm not sure that makes sense.

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Athnul: Sure. Just note that there's no substitution for revealing the blessing first.

Raz: I'd say if you go to discard the top card of your deck and you find that it's a boon, you can reload your Blackjack boon on top of it. But if it's not a boon, you can't NOT discard it at that point.

Liriane (both): You're not playing the card for Lirianne's power, so no.

Zelhara: Sure.

Celeste: You're not playing the card for Celeste's power, so no.

Imrijka: You'd add a trait from the boon you "would" recharge, and that card must have the Divine trait.

In brief: As long as you are recharging, shuffling, discarding, or burying a boon to activate your power, instead of taking that action with that card, you can reload the Blackjack boon. The card you would have used stays wherever it was, and no other part of the effect changes.

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