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So, one of the big problems I've seen people mention about the Fighter Multiclass feat is that it isn't a great pickup if you're already trained in Martial Weapons. So I propose the following changes to both Fighter Dedication and Diverse Weapon Expert.
[ARCHETYPE] [DEDICATION] [MULTICLASS]
Prerequisites Strength 14, Dexterity 14
You become trained in simple weapons and martial weapons. If you are already trained in simple weapons and martial weapons, you instead become trained in advanced weapons. You become trained in your choice of Acrobatics or Athletics; if you are already trained in both of these skills, you instead become trained in a skill of your choice. You become trained in fighter class DC.
Special You cannot select another dedication feat until you have gained two other feats from the fighter archetype.
[ARCHETYPE]
Prerequisites Fighter Dedication, expert in any kind of weapon or unarmed attack
Your proficiency ranks for simple weapons and martial weapons increase to expert, and your proficiency rank for advanced weapons increases to trained. If you are already trained in advanced weapons, your proficiency rank for advanced weapons increases to expert instead.
It makes sense to me that those who multiclass into fighter but who are already trained in simple and martial weapons would instead be able to access some of the fighters' ability to use advanced weapons, though of course they'll never be quite as skill as a real fighter.
Anyway, what are your thoughts?
Oh, that's a fitting addition. I was also wondering how to not make the Fighter dedication more useful for other martials. Didn't think of that. :) I'll use that, thanks.
It's niche enough to not be OP but it is something. I don't know about the balance of giving expert in advanced weapons via multiclassing.... but that's something I can think about later.
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Oh, that's a fitting addition. I was also wondering how to not make the Fighter dedication more useful for other martials. Didn't think of that. :) I'll use that, thanks.
It's niche enough to not be OP but it is something. I don't know about the balance of giving expert in advanced weapons via multiclassing.... but that's something I can think about later.
Well, the Champion Archetype gives a feat that provides Expert in all armors at level 14, not that much later. And it is only if you have a main class that already gives you Simple and Martial weapon training already...
I don't know about the balance of giving expert in advanced weapons via multiclassing.... but that's something I can think about later.Well, the Champion Archetype gives a feat that provides Expert in all armors at level 14, not that much later. And it is only if you have a main class that already gives you Simple and Martial weapon training already...
Yes, but if you look at the Fighter class, the prof. for Advanced Weapons is one step lower than its prof. for Martial weapons. I think that's intentional to make advanced weapons not a no-brainer.
So after thinking about it, I would (and for my table probably will) change the wording for both feats to:
"If you are or at one point become Expert/Master in any Martial weapon you become Trained/Expert in Advanced weapons."
So other martial will get that benefit at lvl 5 and 13. :)