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Timeshadow wrote:
Of note will this spell work underwater? It seems like RAW it shouldn't due to there being no "Room" as the space is already filled with water?

Of note will this spell work in the air? It seems like RAW it shouldn't due to there being no "Room" as the space is already filled with air?

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Timeshadow wrote:
Of note will this spell work underwater? It seems like RAW it shouldn't due to there being no "Room" as the space is already filled with water?

If it can displace water, then humans and other creatures have a similar density, and it becomes, erm, a game changer ;-) So probably best to err on the side of not allowing it to displace anything with bulk when unshrinking.


20 cubic feet is the average volume of a modern kitchen refrigerator.

Still useful, not game breaking.

I'd ignore the bulk of displaced fluids (air, water) as long as there's no increase in pressure. In a sealed chamber, they would be able to unshrink items and blow out a door or wall (and probably kill themselves) if there's no outlet for the fluids.

How'd your character die?

I dispelled several shrunken items in a sealed chamber to escape by blowing out the door before I suffocated. I died in agony from catastrophic decompression.


How large an object would you allow to be shrunk if it were particularly long and thin and relatively light. Best example a pole or ladder? How long is an 80 Bulk pole or ladder? A 10' pole is 1 bulk but you would likely need to make it thicker/more sturdy if you wanted it much longer. Still if you make it 4x thicker/stronger and 10x longer that's a 100' pole....

How about a steel girder(or equivalent Iron pillar).

What about a cadge would you include the volume inside so as to limit to fridge sized or allow it to be bigger as it is not solid/filled.

How big would you allow it to be if the bars were 1" thick iron with cross braces at 1' intervals in a perfect square?


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If we're talking volume, I would not count the hollow of hollow objects.


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Timeshadow wrote:
How large an object would you allow to be shrunk if it were particularly long and thin and relatively light. Best example a pole or ladder? How long is an 80 Bulk pole or ladder? A 10' pole is 1 bulk but you would likely need to make it thicker/more sturdy if you wanted it much longer. Still if you make it 4x thicker/stronger and 10x longer that's a 100' pole....

You can buy 48 foot extension ladders and those qualify as "man portable."

I can't find longer ones, so use that as a metric.


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Draco18s wrote:
Timeshadow wrote:
How large an object would you allow to be shrunk if it were particularly long and thin and relatively light. Best example a pole or ladder? How long is an 80 Bulk pole or ladder? A 10' pole is 1 bulk but you would likely need to make it thicker/more sturdy if you wanted it much longer. Still if you make it 4x thicker/stronger and 10x longer that's a 100' pole....

You can buy 48 foot extension ladders and those qualify as "man portable."

I can't find longer ones, so use that as a metric.

Mithril or Darkwood, maybe even enchanted, and that ladder could be ridiculously large. Make it so you can connect the ends to another...


So if only the material counts a 10'x10'x10' iron cage with 1" bars should be easily possible. Which would be great both as a "Prison" to hold enemies or creatures or as a melee safe area (unless the opp has spears lol)

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