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keftiu wrote:
When do you think we’ll see Kitsune? I know they were super popular in 1e.

Probably in book that focuses on Tian Xia content and has nagaji and samsarans as well. Like nagaji, samsarans and kitsune aren't as common in inner sea as tengu are. I think they are very likely to come back sooner than later though.


CorvusMask wrote:
keftiu wrote:
When do you think we’ll see Kitsune? I know they were super popular in 1e.
Probably in book that focuses on Tian Xia content and has nagaji and samsarans as well. Like nagaji, samsarans and kitsune aren't as common in inner sea as tengu are. I think they are very likely to come back sooner than later though.

In my wildest dreams, we get that book soon. I’m dying for more diverse settings, and samsarans are one of my favorite Ancestries.


CorvusMask wrote:

Honestly kinda confused if we need multiple level 9 casters of same school, especially if they are both spontaneous casters(unless bards are prep in this edition.. Well i guess you could make psychic prepared instead).

Like, unless psychic gets completely new mechanics or spell list, it might as well just be archetype or something

On the other hand, if we're just sticking with "4 spell lists, with specific other spells from your thing" why not print lots and lots of full casters? One new class for every neat central mechanic you think of.

Like the central problem with casters in PF1 was that they all had their own lists, which made "printing new spells" much more of a headache.


If we have prepared/spontaneous for all lists(+any list), with just the player handbook and advanced player guide, we would only have three more slots for casters.

I think it is more likely that will see repeated combinations than a new spell-list, though it isn't completely impossible.


I see no problem in printing a half-dozen different prepared arcane caster classes provided that their mechanics other than "casts arcane spells in a prepared fashion" are sufficiently different.

I mean, we could always just add arcanist-style casting in 4 the 4 lists too.


Each distinct class has own Class Feats which should be continued to be supported.
Even if you take away base spell list issue, that is factor against class spam.
But if they overlap in many ways, that could be Class specific Archetype or Class Ability Swap Archetype.


We have developers saying that consolidated lists were in part made because it made them easier to print more casters in the future, since you'd have less book space wasted on summarizing twenty different lists.

There is a risk of classes end up feeling really similar to each other, since full casting is such a bulky feature in and of itself, but the Sorcerer and Bard can both be spontaneous occult casters and do an at least okay job of feeling different.

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