Class DC

[BlackZack]

Hi!

I've been lucky and already have my copy of PF2 at home!

I have a doubt about the initial proficiencies of most spellcasting classes. I don't find which proficiency rank they get at 1st level with their class DC. This happens with bards, clerics, sorcerers and wizards. Yet the druid does indeed have that listed among its initial proficiencies.

Is this some kind of mistake or is it just that they don't need that? By default, would the initial proficiency with class DC be 'trained' as with the rest of the classes?

Thanks in advance and my appologies if I have skipped some paragraph where it is clearly explained, but I don't seem to be able to find more info about it.

[Rhyst]

I think Spell DC replaces Class DC for primary spellcasters. Looking at the Class Specific character sheets from Paizo the spellcaster sheets replace Class DC with Spell DC on the front page.

[Ap0th1x]

It is listed on right side of the book like all the others. Sorcerer for example lists :
"Trained in Spell attack rolls of your spellcasting tradition, as indicated by your bloodline. Trained in spell DC's of your spellcasting tradition as indicated by your bloodline."

So they start as trained just like druids.

[Wojciech Gebczyk]

At same time Champion & Druid have both - Class DC and Spell DC.
Please note that they are usually wrote as "<class name> class DC" and "spell attack" and "spell DC".

The classes mainly gives you training in "<class name> class DC" and increases when advancing. Rarely "hand" traits/actions/feats (T/A/F) on "* DC".

The multiclassing trains you in... newly taken "<class name> class DC".
This means that theoretically multiclassing Champion with Druid you would have:
- champion class DC
- divine spell attack
- divine spell DC
- druid class DC
- primal spell attack
- primal spell DC
Each of them tracked independently.

Usually T/A/F have origin of specific class and that's "class DC" should be used.

What if T/A/F is from non-class origin - ancestry, background, etc - AND refer to "class DC"?
I dunno if such case already exist. If so, then probably you have to choose highest "class DC" you are tracking in case of multiclassing.

EDIT:
Example of pure "class DC" is section "Critical Specialization Effects" for Brawling and Sling.