Does a Dragon Mystery Oracle with the Dragon Wings revelation qualify for Flyby attack? If she does and a DM allows it, does this form of attacking and moving provoke Aoos?
I should ask here to, but what about Claws of the Dragon and Multiattack, if I have a bite attack from my oracle curse and the claws from my mystery, do i qualify for multiattack?
Does a Dragon Mystery Oracle with the Dragon Wings revelation qualify for Flyby attack? If she does and a DM allows it, does this form of attacking and moving provoke Aoos?
Ride By Attack specifically says that you and your mount do not provoke an AO when you move-attack-move, and Fly By Attack is basically the same thing but no verbage stating that an AO is or isn't provoked. Tbh, this could go either way; I'm a big fan of "it says what it does and it does what it says" so if the rule doesn't say it, then it doesn't happen. That being said, if I were your DM, I'd make it the same as Ride-by Attack insofar as that you don't provoke an AO.
I should ask here to, but what about Claws of the Dragon and Multiattack, if I have a bite attack from my oracle curse and the claws from my mystery, do i qualify for multiattack?
The only prerequisite for multiattack is 3+ natural attacks, and the claws in the Dragon Mystery are considered natural attacks, so yes :)
And yes you provoke AoO with the movement and standard action just like you would if you were not flying.
Why would there be an AO with Fly-by Attack and no AO with Ride-by Attack though? It makes me wonder what the purpose of the feat even is other than just moving past your opponent? Seems like a waste to me.
fly by allow aoo unlike ride by because balance.
if the party lack any ranged worth while a flyby attacker is untouchable (except if some are smart enough to ready attacks). ride by is still walking of sort so can be reached and or maneuvered to circle around an catch.
also as a gm i would allow players to pick monster feat, unless they make their own race. on the ground that their race(even human elf and the like) IS in the monster manual and thus count as such.
Okay, that does make sense.
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Multiattack would not be that useful as all it does is reduce secondary natural weapon penalty to -2 instead of -5, but your bite and claws (unless the way they are given differ) are both primary natural attacks.
I suppose if you plan on using a manufactured weapon and lose one of the claw attacks then it might be useful then, but as stated should not have any effect on your attacks.
Multiattack would not be that useful as all it does is reduce secondary natural weapon penalty to -2 instead of -5, but your bite and claws (unless the way they are given differ) are both primary natural attacks.
I suppose if you plan on using a manufactured weapon and lose one of the claw attacks then it might be useful then, but as stated should not have any effect on your attacks.
Well the problem is is that the Hunger curse that grants the bite attack, states that you're sickened until you manage to successfully bite someone in the present combat. If I remember correctly you have a -2 to attack rolls, weapon damage rolls, and saves and skill checks, ability checks while sickened.. also the bite is specifically stated to be a 2ndary attack.. thats a -7 to hit on a class with medium BAB and likely a measely 14 str. Lessening that -7 to minus -4 is still pretty helpful.
Flyby attack might not avoid the aoo as well, because when charging with ride by attack you are choosing to do so, where is flyby attack, you might not have the fly skill high neough to do things like hover out of reach, or move less thn half your speed... it lets you make your attacks at anypoint of your move without those pesky fly checks, which yes, are usually not that hard for flying creatures, but some have abysmal fly skills, which can be quite worsened with the correct skills and spells.
Remember that the acrobatics skill and spell-based means of avoiding AoOs (probably grace for an oracle) should still work when you're flying.
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Flyby attack might not avoid the aoo as well, because when charging with ride by attack you are choosing to do so, where is flyby attack, you might not have the fly skill high neough to do things like hover out of reach, or move less thn half your speed... it lets you make your attacks at anypoint of your move without those pesky fly checks, which yes, are usually not that hard for flying creatures, but some have abysmal fly skills, which can be quite worsened with the correct skills and spells.
This.
While the fly rules are often ignored, they are set up so that a typical mundane flying creature has to move more than half its speed on its turn to avoid having to make a fly check. Even for some PCs with the fly spell, a fly check to hover (DC15) or move less than half speed (DC10) isn't guaranteed. The fly spell grants good maneuverability, which is a +4. Now if the character is wearing full plate armor, they take a -6 armor check penalty. If it's a 5th level caster (like from a potion), and if they have no dex modifier and no ranks in fly, they're making the check at +0. Which means 45% of the time they'll fail the check to move less than half speed.
That same logic extends to creatures. They'll generally have a better fly skill, but take a Griffon, for example. Their fly skill is only +6 with average maneuverability. It's a small chance, but there's a 15% chance a Griffon will fail a fly check to move half speed. There's a 45% chance they'll fail to hover. Add barding into the mix, and those chances become greater.
Fly-by Attack would let them move farther and still attack without having to make the check.
The fly spell also gives a bonus on fly skill checks equal to the caster level. -6 + 4 + 5 = +3, or a 30% chance of failing a DC 10 check with zero investment. Bad, but not quite as bad as you suggest Ferious.
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The fly spell also gives a bonus on fly skill checks equal to the caster level. -6 + 4 + 5 = +3, or a 30% chance of failing a DC 10 check with zero investment. Bad, but not quite as bad as you suggest Ferious.
Equal to half caster level. I counted that in my calculation. It’s +2, not +5, which brings it to +0.
The subject gains a bonus on Fly skill checks equal to 1/2 your caster level.
Unless that’s been errata’d and the update didn’t make it to d20pfsrd.
No, my bad, sorry.
You also have the Strix specific Fighter archetype that allows you to take Fly By Attack and Hover as Fighter bonus feats.
However, Fly By Attack does not in any way grant the ability to move or make the standard action attack without suffering AoO for the movement and/or the action/attack...
Some feats/abilities negate these AoO, Fly By Attack does not for very specific balance reasons.
In fact, the Strix Fighter archetype actually allows Fly checks instead of Acrobatics checks to move through threatened squares in order to focus on the Fly skill instead of Acrobatics. Exactly because of how these skills work. Giving up Climb to have Fly as a class skill.
Normally, Flying is extremely difficult to actually use. Every movement has a required check, to hover is checked even if you have flight.
Fly By Attack is easily accessible to Playable Characters because it is also balanced by opening AoO to and from...