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Right. So, I have an unchained eidolon, and I know there is at least a little variance about taking evolutions from Ultimate Magic, buu~uut if hooves were okay with a GM...
Animal Archive wrote: horseshoes of sacred silver: These mithral horseshoes are imbued with heavenly power. They grant the holy weapon special ability to the wearer’s hoof attacks, and if the wearer hits an evil-aligned target with both hooves in the same round, the target is staggered for 1 round (Fortitude DC 16 negates). In addition, the wearer gains a +2 sacred bonus on bull rush, drag, and overrun combat maneuvers. If the wearer is a mount and the rider uses the Trample feat, add 2 to the rider’s overrun combat maneuver check. If the wearer uses the trample special ability, increase the trample DC by 2; if the target fails its save against the trample attempt, add the damage from the holy weapon special ability to the trample damage. 1. These are some of the very few horseshoes that do not say you have to wear all four. An eidolon with only two hooves could wear them just fine.
2. They are made of mithral, one of the very few ways you can tack a DR-bypassing metal onto a natural attack. Horseshoes of crushing blows can also be made from special metal, but unfortunately you have to have four hooves for those.
3. They don't care about the wearer being a horse ( horseshoes of a zephyr), or have a command word that only works for a mount's rider (sorry nightmare horseshoes), or force the wearer's family to be from Kelesh (the overpriced horseshoes of desert fury).
4. The wearer of these horseshoes can be evil, and won't suffer a negative level from wielding a holy weapon.
So, hooray to whoever wrote these! They are perfect for a hooved, evil eidolon who wants their feet to count for something.
1. Seems legit. Probably an oversite, but what's written is what's written.
2. Nice.
3. Nice again.
4. Why won't you suffer a negative level? They grant the HOLY weapon properties, one of which is negative levels for evil people ...?
Seems like a good item, but I'm not sure you're getting around the alignment thing.
1 is probably not an oversight. as most horses only get up to 2 hooves attack(while unassumingly standing on the other 2 legs) and this is meant to be used to enhance that.
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Ok, sure. this is great for all of the Satyr players out there, I suppose? But my big question is: How does your Eidolon get a hoof attack? There are plenty of ways to get attacks with the arms, but none with legs gaining attacks. Well, other than Trample. And these are foot slot items for animals with hooves. Not arm slot items for guys that want to call their claws 'hooves'.
Meirril wrote: Ok, sure. this is great for all of the Satyr players out there, I suppose? But my big question is: How does your Eidolon get a hoof attack? There are plenty of ways to get attacks with the arms, but none with legs gaining attacks. Well, other than Trample. And these are foot slot items for animals with hooves. Not arm slot items for guys that want to call their claws 'hooves'. I don't follow. You take the hooves evolution, you get the attack.
MrCharisma wrote: 1. Seems legit. Probably an oversite, but what's written is what's written.
2. Nice.
3. Nice again.
4. Why won't you suffer a negative level? They grant the HOLY weapon properties, one of which is negative levels for evil people ...?
Seems like a good item, but I'm not sure you're getting around the alignment thing.
Yeah, oops! There's a bunch of specific magic items that give you a negative level for having the wrong alignment, I just assumed that the holy weapon property was a specific weapon for some reason. In my defense, uh, I was pretty delirious from fever when I wrote this...
blahpers wrote: Meirril wrote: Ok, sure. this is great for all of the Satyr players out there, I suppose? But my big question is: How does your Eidolon get a hoof attack? There are plenty of ways to get attacks with the arms, but none with legs gaining attacks. Well, other than Trample. And these are foot slot items for animals with hooves. Not arm slot items for guys that want to call their claws 'hooves'. I don't follow. You take the hooves evolution, you get the attack. OP specifically referred to Unchained Summoner. The Unchained Eidolon doesn't have Hoof as a choice.
interesting.
archive of Nethys which is now an official site for Paizo's rules show 'Hooves (Ex)' under 'Companions - Eidolon (Unchained) - Evolutions' when i search for 'hoof' in the classes part. using the link it goes to the unchained evolution that has no such evolution.
But if you look under class: Eidolon(unchained) Evolutions you'll find no listing for Hooves. Hooves are only listed under Eidolon Evolutions which refers to the APG introduced class.
yes, as i said using the link from the search to go to the evolution page will get you to a page with no hoof or hooves in it.
Meirril wrote: blahpers wrote: Meirril wrote: Ok, sure. this is great for all of the Satyr players out there, I suppose? But my big question is: How does your Eidolon get a hoof attack? There are plenty of ways to get attacks with the arms, but none with legs gaining attacks. Well, other than Trample. And these are foot slot items for animals with hooves. Not arm slot items for guys that want to call their claws 'hooves'. I don't follow. You take the hooves evolution, you get the attack. OP specifically referred to Unchained Summoner. The Unchained Eidolon doesn't have Hoof as a choice. What the hecking heck. I never noticed that.
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