JR + RotRL Mash up?

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I'm currently debating an idea, and that is to run a Jade Regent + Rise of the Rune Lords mash up, slightly modifying the first 2 chapters of RotRL as a prequel to JR. However, I've only skimmed a bit of both the AP's and haven't given them a thorough read. I'm nailing down some fine points of how to manage this whole thing, and I've got a couple of things I'd like to have a few other brains to bounce off of.

The idea is this: We make assumptions that RotRL begins approximately in 4707AR, and that JR does not begin until 4711. JR specifically warns against recycling the heroes of RotRL AFTER they have completed the AP, however does not preclude that some adventurers may have participated in part of the events and never followed through.

So, enter Aldern Foxglove. The backstory sounds remarkably similar to a weird Batman origin story turned bad. What if I made Foxglove two separate people instead of just the one? Say, a Foxglove who turns into the skinsaw man, and a, shall we name him Bryce Euwan, who defied the Brothers of the Seven and became Batman?

This way, in Burnt Offerings, the PC's actually encounter Bryce Euwan at the Swallowtail festival, and he somehow ends up revealing his identity to the PCs. (Major point: How?)

During the rest of BO and Skinsaw Murders then, Batman will then have to have a major part to play, probably as the primary detective, somewhat overshadowing the PCs in order for them to not be able to finish RotRL. (How do these events play out?)

Now, skip forward 4 years... (What do the PCs do in the intervening years?)

We're now at 4711 AR and Ameiko is now a friend and fixture in the PCs' lives, and she has a destiny. This will take the whole party to Tian, and, well, Batman's gonna come along, but this time he'll have enough other things to keep him busy than to be the main hero. (How will he play into the events of JR?)

Any advice will be helpful.

More development on the idea: perhaps Aldern Foxglove is actually Jack Napier, and perhaps he could actually be a temporarily insane version of my Simkin character perpetrating through the background on my other campaigns. Perhaps he becomes the joker through the events of SM, and bats and joker tear through the background of Tian ala Batman Ninja?


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i haven't read or played Jade Regent, but the best chapter of Rise, (imho), is Book 2.

I know that Jade really gets kicked off on its trip in book 3; so your key problem is connecting the weird evil stuff in book 2 of Rise and kinda picking/choosing the stuff from books 1 of both APs.

As a suggestion, go with books 1&2 of Rise, but connect it to the story of the inheritance rather than the runelord. it's not bizarre to imagine the weird evil monsters at the end of Rise as being servants of a distant oni-influenced emperor.

book 1 of Rise is super into the family (can't remember their name right now); book 2 of Rise is great, and can be the pivot towards the remainder of Jade Regent.

Maybe books 1 & 2 of Jade Regent are awesome and you should play them. I have no idea. This is just a thought from knowing Rise and the general outline of Jade.

Yakman wrote:
Maybe books 1 & 2 of Jade Regent are awesome and you should play them.

They really, really are. Book 1 is very good, but nothing extraordinary - but Book 2 is playing spies in a Viking city full of ninjas, and was one of the best parts of Jade Regent.

Thanks both. To my last, I think I will use RotRl2 to introduce Magnimar as Golarion's version of Gotham, perhaps I won't make Foxglove my version of Joker though.

On the other front, I'm thinking definitely use the Oni and their agents as a background to Tsuto's recent malignance. Since he does kill Lonjiku and kidnap Ameiko during RotRl1, I'm thinking that he knows something about her inheritance, but how much? Perhaps he shares what he knows to Ameiko to get her to join him, but when she slaps him he attempts to rape her and the PCs jump in?

Which brings me right back to the intervening years. I'm thinking of something to tie Amaya into the story, and I just can't see CoT1 as a good way. I understand that Amaya is a minor fixture in CoT, but I just can't really see myself stretching CoT to fit the flavor. Anyone have a suggestion?

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