Is WotC treading on Paizo’s toes with ‘Wayfinder’?


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Sovereign Court

I just got a promotional e-mail for the https://www.drivethrurpg.com/m/product/247882.

Not only does Paizo’s game feature ‘wayfinders’ as objects and have a fan-produced magazine called Wayfinder, but Wayfinder is very close to Pathfinder as a name.

I don’t see how this could be an accident and, with D&D as most people’s first game, I could imagine players coming to WotC ‘Wayfinder’ content before they discover PF.

Paizo have always seemed very positive and friendly toward the d&d team. This is... surprising?

Silver Crusade

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At WotC offices:

Intern: HEY GUYS I HAVE THIS REALLY IMPORTANT THING TO TELL YOU!
Manager: 'sup, kiddo?
Intern: WAYFINDERS! PAIZO! NAMES SO CLOSE! LEGAL DANGER!
Manager: Kid, what is Hasbro's legal budget?
Intern: INFINITE AND GLORIOUS?
Manager: What do you reckon Paizo's legal budget is?
Intern: NOT?
Manager: There you go. Grab me some coffee and a sandwich on your way out will ya?


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The Wayfinder Foundation has been part of Eberron since the publication of the original Eberron campaign setting hardcover in 2004, long before Pathfinder was a thing as a game, or even a product line. According to that book, it is

Eberron Campaign Setting, p. 247 wrote:

[...] a guild for adventurers and explorers that funds dangerous expeditions to exotic locales, as well as giving bold adventurers a place to display their trophies and tell tall tales. The Wayfinder Foundation is an exclusive organization. Membership is by invitation only [...]. The Wayfinder Conclave manages the affairs of the Foundation. [...]

Of course, many of the members of the Foundation are more interested in personal wealth or glory than in increasing the reputation of the Wayfinders or pursuing scholarly exploration. The Wayfinder Foundation is very much an alliance of individuals, and each Wayfinder has a distinctive personality.

Does that sound familiar? If anything, it is possible that, conscious or not, the Pathfinder Society after which our game is named was actually inspired by this.


Only if WotC starts putting out ioun stone-powered magic compasses and names them Wayfinders.

Liberty's Edge

The Wayfinder Foundation is older than Pathfinder. It was introduced in the Eberron Campaign Setting, in 2004.


WOTC had it first and they're slyly reminding folks.

Scarab Sages

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Whoever read Eberron anyway?


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Charles Scholz wrote:

Whoever read Eberron anyway?

I did, for one, because it was the best campaign setting Wizards produced for D&D third edition.

Liberty's Edge

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Charles Scholz wrote:

Whoever read Eberron anyway?

Lots. It was one of the most asked settings for 5e, alongside Darksun and Planescape.


I was gifted with a copy when it first premiered and I read it. Interesting but since I homebrew everything I simply cherry picked a few things. I can't even remember what they were.


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Please bear in mind, both "wayfinder" and "pathfinder" are real world terms that exist outside of two companies and their product, as much as they might sound like typical fantasy noun-verbing. I can't count the number of times I've searched for something related to Pathfinder and gotten the same image of that SUV or that one movie.

Scarab Sages

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Only 1 in 20 in my area liked it.
And they only liked it because of the Dragonborn.

Liberty's Edge

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Charles Scholz wrote:

Only 1 in 20 in my area liked it.

And they only liked it because of the Dragonborn.

Are you sure you're talking about Eberron? Dragonborn don't have a prominent role there.

Scarab Sages

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Sorry, it was the warforged. But they were the same people that would only play dragonborn.

Sovereign Court

Zaister wrote:

The Wayfinder Foundation has been part of Eberron since the publication of the original Eberron campaign setting hardcover in 2004, long before Pathfinder was a thing as a game, or even a product line. According to that book, it is

Eberron Campaign Setting, p. 247 wrote:

[...] a guild for adventurers and explorers that funds dangerous expeditions to exotic locales, as well as giving bold adventurers a place to display their trophies and tell tall tales. The Wayfinder Foundation is an exclusive organization. Membership is by invitation only [...]. The Wayfinder Conclave manages the affairs of the Foundation. [...]

Of course, many of the members of the Foundation are more interested in personal wealth or glory than in increasing the reputation of the Wayfinders or pursuing scholarly exploration. The Wayfinder Foundation is very much an alliance of individuals, and each Wayfinder has a distinctive personality.
Does that sound familiar? If anything, it is possible that, conscious or not, the Pathfinder Society after which our game is named was actually inspired by this.

Ah, cool, did not know that.

Makes sense. Cheers.


GeraintElberion wrote:
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/m/product/247882.

Can anyone guess why, when I tap that link to another website site, my browser (Safari mobile) goes to my Paizo shopping cart?


Because the link is messed up.


When I copy the link, paste it into a text editor, copy it again, and paste it into my browser's address box, it goes to the correct product page.


RainOfSteel wrote:
GeraintElberion wrote:
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/m/product/247882.
Can anyone guess why, when I tap that link to another website site, my browser (Safari mobile) goes to my Paizo shopping cart?

The bit between the tabs (the part you can copy/paste) is a link to drivethrurpg.com; however, what's plugged into the url in the BBCode actually reads "https://paizo.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Store.woa/wa/DirectAction/Wayfarer's Guide to Eberron". In short, the link as inserted in the BBCode is incorrect.

There is/has been a known bug in the boards that inserts a paizo.com address ahead of a non-secure link. Can't remember if it's been fixed yet or not.


Thank you.

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