What's the saddest you've gotten over a fictional character dying? (warning: spoiler city)


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Cole Deschain wrote:
Yondu in Guardians 2- less for his death than for this line from his last words: "I'm sorry I didn't do none of it right.".
Orthos wrote:
Yondu in GOTG2 is probably the most recent for me. I really choked up at that funeral scene.

I haven't come up with my own answer. I haven't even thought of any candidates. But I asked my 12-year-old son who answered: Groot in Guardians of the Galaxy (1). When Groot said "We are Groot" my son cried.

(Then Groot regenerated, which made my son laugh.)


Charlotte in Charlotte's Web was the first impactful death I can remember, along with Bambi's mom. Go go childhood trauma.

Next was Helen Burns in Jane Eyre in early teens.

As an adult, Miser Shen's death and prayer to Ah Chen in Bridge of Birds wrecks me every damned time, right up to yesterday.


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One more for the road: the girl in Bridge to Terabithia.


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Honorable mention for reasons but.. Awbee

Awbee is this adorable blue hatchling dragon thats lying on the ground in a world of warcraft dungeon. He tells you whats going on, but his dialog makes it clear he's hurt but ambiguous whether he dies or falls asleep on you after telling it to you.

EVERY time I ran through that place (and it was a LOT) I'd try healing spells, bandages, hug emotes, comfort emotes, looking for some easter egg where the dragon would pop up and be ok.

TEN YEARS later. They do a special anniversary edition of the dungeon. The boss is a dragon rider, so the guy lands and fights you, then his dragon lands and fights you. I'm healing people so I'm paying more attention to the health bars than the screen proper, but I can't help but notice all of a sudden there's an ENORMOUS dragon butt in my face.

Oh great, they made the boss Big...

Awbee , now a giant blue dragon, Starts wrecking house and you see dialog in your chat window

Awbee "Hey you guys helped me out once, returning the favor."

Had to apologize to the fury warrior for letting them die. Healing through too many tears. They said its okay thats why they didn't see where they were going..


No one has mentioned Old Yeller yet I see.


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Here's one that just came to mind... more bittersweet than crushingly sad, but- Matafleur in Dragons of Autumn Twilight.

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Fred from Angel. (Though I liked the plotline that stemmed from back, and she's back in the comic sequel.)

The husband in the beginning of Calendar Girls. (What, this doesn't have to be all nerdy stuff, does it?) It's necessary for the whole plot development, but it was still very sad, and they established the character and influence he had very well.

Laura Roslin in Battlestar Galactica.

I was sad at a lot of the losses in Infinity War... well, at least one... but the one I was saddest about I expect to be reversed so that mitigates the impact.

Yondu. I cried. Even though I know he was... well, deeply morally grey.

Matthew in Downton Abbey.


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My daughter asked me the other day "When are they making another season of Agent Carter?"

That's when we had The Talk.

She was pissed.

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My daughter asked me the other day "When are they making another season of Agent Carter?"

That's when we had The Talk.

She was pissed.

She and a lot of other folks. I just showed the series to a friend and while I repeated to him several times "there are only two seasons," he now curses and raves about there being no more now that we've finished watching (without me bringing it up). Still other folk I know are only just discovering it streaming on Hulu or having a friend show it to them and are ticked off that it went off without them knowing about it to begin with. I still think the network sabotaged it by screwing with the schedule and putting it on against American Idol... and not marketing it. Low ratings is one thing. Low ratings because people can't find it, keep missing it or it conflicts with something wildly popular is another.

Oddly most of the deaths on that show I was totally okay with. Including the maybe not-death on the cliffhanger, which had some other folks sad or pissed off.

Peggy's death in Civil War was sad, even though obviously she was old.


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Of all the character deaths I've encountered in the last few years, I think the one that shook me up the most was Tara in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and there's a very specific reason for that.

Buffy, for those of us that don't know, is a fairly typical urban fantasy, monster hunting show in the sense that it consists of a small group of heroes in a version of the real world, fighting monsters and demons, with a lot of formidable supernatural villains and apocalyptic threats. It's when it killed off Tara while breaking genre convention that I got the most upset.

What happened was, this mundane human shithead ended up developing a grudge against Buffy and decided to go after her with a gun, rather than the usual fantasy-related means of assassination. He went to her house, shot her (she was fine), and then took a second shot, with the bullet ricocheting away and hitting Tara, killing her. The thing that made it so rough to me is honestly how pointlessly mundane a death it was. It's a fantasy show. You expect people to be killed by monsters and to die valiantly in battle against apocalyptic threats. This was just such a pointless thing, having her be killed by some random loser with a gun in such a mundane way. If it had been a monster or an archvillain that killed her, it would have been sad, since I liked her, but wouldn't have had the same effect.

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I’m pretty sure tonight’s Overlord episode is going to give me a new one.


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In the final episode of 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer',
when Anya was killed doing her job, I fell on the floor
sobbing with tears running down my face.

That's the saddest.

Followed by the kick to the gut when Xander, who just lost his eye,
walked right by her body, because he didn't see her.


Anya's death was pretty rough too. I was pretty upset as it really felt like an "obligatory" last episode major character death that didn't have enough in-story consequences to be justified. At least Tara's affected the plot in a major way.

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I’m pretty sure tonight’s Overlord episode is going to give me a new one.

Yep. RIP Gazef.

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Chewbacca. The New Jedi Order Series, Vector Prime by RA Salvatore. I was in high school when I read that book and took it very poorly.


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Death is not the worst thing that can happen to a beloved fictional character.

I would not have been terribly upset if Jim Phelps had just been killed in the 1996 Mission Impossible movie. But as a fan of both Mission Impossible TV series, I will never forgive the makers of that movie for what they did to his character before they killed him off.

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Harry Potter, IDK, just being kind with the spoiler here:
Sirius Black. Followed by Remus and Tonks.


Chuck Barstow in the Emberverse novels (can't recall which at the moment). I'm tempted to say Havel or Astrid from the same series, but their status as 'big heroes' makes their passing seem more justified.


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David knott 242 wrote:

Death is not the worst thing that can happen to a beloved fictional character.

I would not have been terribly upset if Jim Phelps had just been killed in the 1996 Mission Impossible movie. But as a fan of both Mission Impossible TV series, I will never forgive the makers of that movie for what they did to his character before they killed him off.

even the wiki says these are two different characters.


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DungeonmasterCal wrote:
Charlotte, of "Charlotte's Web"

That's probably the first, chronologically, actual fictional death that made me totally lose it as a kid.

Lathiira wrote:
Optimus Prime, 1986 animated Transformers: the Movie

I sniffed a bit, but Optimus was never my favorite, so it wasn't too bad for me. Megatron's slaughter on the shuttle hit much harder.

MageHunter wrote:
Farscape:
Zhaan. She was like the only good one. Although not very good at being good...

When she died in Season 3's "Self-Inflicted Wounds, part II", I was still emotionally wrung out from the Harvey-possessed Crichton murder in the Season 2 finale, "Die Me, Dichotomy" and in a major depression trough. So I was definitely sad, but didn't cry. The death in "DM,D" had me bawling when it happened, though.

Rysky wrote:
The Iron Giant

Definitely sad, maybe misty, didn't cry.

Vidmaster7 wrote:
The little girl and boy from grave of the fireflys.

Sweet Jeebus. That movie was highly recommended by an online friend who didn't give me single clue what to expect. I watched it and it kept getting sadder, and then sadder... I heavy cried for a half-hour straight seeing the end of that. That night, I woke up in the middle of the night from a GoF nightmare and deep cried again. That was probably the saddest as an adult. That was over a decade ago, and I still will not watch that movie again.

DeathQuaker wrote:
Peggy's death in Civil War was sad, even though obviously she was old.

Yeah, cried a bit at that one. I cried more earlier at the scene that revealed she had Alzheimer's.

DeathQuaker wrote:
Fred from Angel
Wannabe Demon Lord wrote:
Tara in Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Tensor wrote:
In the final episode of 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer', when Anya was killed

All three of these made me sad, but mostly they just made me angry at Whedon, and to a lesser extent the shows' writers, who seemed (to me anyway) to have difficulty writing all three characters much beyond the superficial stuff or as support for the core characters. All three deserved better storylines.


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There were a few more that got to me as a little kid (pre-7 or 8 yro), but they weren't actual deaths:

I got several VHS tapes of hometaped early Sesame Street episodes from a relative. There were two sketches/segments featuring The 5 Dancers, five tap-dancing chorus girls teaching counting. I adored the first sketch where they danced around into different configurations yet remaining five total dancers. But in the second sketch, they taught subtraction by being whisked away one at time, singing about their disappearances, until the last one is singing all alone... when she vanishes through a trap door, her voice echoing as she fell. Pre-school me was completely horrified and shrieked. It took a long talk from Mom to convince me the dancers weren't dead or permanently missing. That VHS tape disappeared mysteriously for some reason.

The Last Unicorn (film):
I was totally captivated by the Unicorn/Amalthea. I got upset when she started falling in love with that doofus boy ("Ugh, gross!") Prince Lir and then crying upset when she started forgetting who she was. Happy cried at the end.

The Elfstones of Shannara:
When Amberle sacrificed herself to create a new Ellcrys, I was really upset. But that quickly turned into fury with Brooks; he was a stupid idiot for killing off the best character. I threw the book across the room, and got yelled at for it, because it was a public library book. That was my first and last Terry Brooks book.

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As an adult, Song of the Sea (2014) had me crying pretty good at the ending. Not as bad as Grave of the Fireflys, but bordering on ugly, runny-nosed crying. It's a great movie, but have the tissues handy.

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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

DeathQuaker wrote:
Fred from Angel
Wannabe Demon Lord wrote:
Tara in Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Tensor wrote:
All three of these made me sad, but mostly they just made me angry at Whedon, and to a lesser extent the shows' writers, who seemed (to me anyway) to have difficulty writing all three characters much beyond the superficial stuff or as support for the core characters. All three deserved better storylines.

Add November from Dollhouse to the list of "Joss Whedon killing off quirky nerdy/awkward girls and pissing me off." Mark me, if Firefly had continued, Kaylee would have been next, and it would have been brutal. Willow didn't get killed but she had to go through a bunch of torture and faceheel turns some of which felt overdone.

It's weird, quirky nerdy or dorky girls were probably the staple of his following in the 90s. I can only assume he hated his own fans.

Anya in particular pissed me off because it was just so gratuitous... an off screen death that happened just to say somebody died.

Fred I was truly sad at because it was at least a good story, a good on screen death, that felt like it was part of her story. While there were far too many buckets of man-angst afterward, it felt like she wasn't just fridged for someone else's plot (unlike Tara, who has the honor of being the first woman to be fridged for another woman). And I was fascinated by Illyria. And again, in the comics she came back anyway because of the magical weirdness of Illyria being in her body (which is not true for Tara or Anya or Jenny Calendar or anyone else).

Edited to remove the gratuitous uses of the word "gratuitous."


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The moment in Life is Beautiful when I realized the narrator was the son and not the father.


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THIS CONTINUES?! VERRAHWELL.

Mrs. Randolph in World War Z.

Quote:
Arms picked me up and carried me. [She gets up from the table, mimicking a motion close to a football] Carried me into the parking lot. "Run, Sharon, don't stop!" [This is a different voice now, not her mother's.] "Just run, run-run-run!" They pulled her away from me. Her arms let me go. They were big, soft arms.

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I cried a LOT at the end of big fish. (no spoilers)


DeathQuaker wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

DeathQuaker wrote:
Fred from Angel
Wannabe Demon Lord wrote:
Tara in Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Tensor wrote:
All three of these made me sad, but mostly they just made me angry at Whedon, and to a lesser extent the shows' writers, who seemed (to me anyway) to have difficulty writing all three characters much beyond the superficial stuff or as support for the core characters. All three deserved better storylines.

Add November from Dollhouse to the list of "Joss Whedon killing off quirky nerdy/awkward girls and pissing me off." Mark me, if Firefly had continued, Kaylee would have been next, and it would have been brutal. Willow didn't get killed but she had to go through a bunch of torture and faceheel turns some of which felt overdone.

It's weird, quirky nerdy or dorky girls were probably the staple of his following in the 90s. I can only assume he hated his own fans.

Anya in particular pissed me off because it was just so gratuitous... an off screen death that happened just to say somebody died.

Fred I was truly sad at because it was at least a good story, a good on screen death, that felt like it was part of her story. While there were far too many buckets of man-angst afterward, it felt like she wasn't just fridged for someone else's plot (unlike Tara, who has the honor of being the first woman to be fridged for another woman). And I was fascinated by Illyria. And again, in the comics she came back anyway because of the magical weirdness of Illyria being in her body (which is not true for Tara or Anya or Jenny Calendar or anyone else).

Edited to remove the gratuitous uses of the word "gratuitous."

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Why not join me, on the whedon haterade side of the force? We can rule the universe as father and son!

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Freehold DM wrote:
DeathQuaker wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

DeathQuaker wrote:
Fred from Angel
Wannabe Demon Lord wrote:
Tara in Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Tensor wrote:
All three of these made me sad, but mostly they just made me angry at Whedon, and to a lesser extent the shows' writers, who seemed (to me anyway) to have difficulty writing all three characters much beyond the superficial stuff or as support for the core characters. All three deserved better storylines.

Add November from Dollhouse to the list of "Joss Whedon killing off quirky nerdy/awkward girls and pissing me off." Mark me, if Firefly had continued, Kaylee would have been next, and it would have been brutal. Willow didn't get killed but she had to go through a bunch of torture and faceheel turns some of which felt overdone.

It's weird, quirky nerdy or dorky girls were probably the staple of his following in the 90s. I can only assume he hated his own fans.

Anya in particular pissed me off because it was just so gratuitous... an off screen death that happened just to say somebody died.

Fred I was truly sad at because it was at least a good story, a good on screen death, that felt like it was part of her story. While there were far too many buckets of man-angst afterward, it felt like she wasn't just fridged for someone else's plot (unlike Tara, who has the honor of being the first woman to be fridged for another woman). And I was fascinated by Illyria. And again, in the comics she came back anyway because of the magical weirdness of Illyria being in her body (which is not true for Tara or Anya or Jenny Calendar or anyone else).

Edited to remove the gratuitous uses of the word "gratuitous."

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Why not join me, on the whedon haterade side of the force? We can rule the universe as father and son!

*whineshouts* "I'LL NEVER JOIN YOU!"

Because excessive hate serves no more purpose in pop culture appreciation than excessive fanboyism. Whedonhaterade and Browncoats are just different sides of the same coin.

There's a lot about Whedon I don't like (and never did). There's also works he's done that I've enjoyed and elements of geek fandom that he's contributed to positively. I can appreciate he is a deeply flawed human being who has sometimes done great things and sometimes done awful ones, and be grateful for the good while holding him accountable for the bad.

Woran I seem to have forgotten Big Fish and then your simply evoking the name makes me suddenly feel sorrowful and I can't even remember why (don't remind me). It must have been powerful.

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Just got back into World of Warcraft and just started the Legion storyline. Losing

Spoiler:
Tirion, Varian, and Vol'jin
so brutally and horrifically was bad enough but it hits harder knowing what comes next in Battle for Azeroth when you see
Spoiler:
Varian and Sylvanus' interactions.

Oh f$~% now all that made the main thing come back, A Flicker of Hope from BfA aka

Spoiler:
The Burning of Teldrassil.

3 minutes. That's all you get to save nearly 1,000 people. 3 minutes.

If you're honed and on point and don't slip up... you might save 80.

This hits even harder because a lot of these aren't just random NPCs, these are people lots of players have regularly interacted with for nearly 15 years, to some people (like me) they grew up interacting with these NPCs, hanging out in this major city, that was always one of the safest places to be in the game.

And then in one night, in 3 minutes, it's all gone.

This one hurt, I teared up writing it. Damnit, Blizzard.


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Freehold DM wrote:
David knott 242 wrote:

Death is not the worst thing that can happen to a beloved fictional character.

I would not have been terribly upset if Jim Phelps had just been killed in the 1996 Mission Impossible movie. But as a fan of both Mission Impossible TV series, I will never forgive the makers of that movie for what they did to his character before they killed him off.

even the wiki says these are two different characters.

And since his is the only character name in common between the TV shows and the movies, he is the only link between their continuities.

Either way, we have good reason to regard the movies as not being set in the same universe as the TV shows.

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Rysky wrote:

Just got back into World of Warcraft and just started the Legion storyline. Losing ** spoiler omitted ** so brutally and horrifically was bad enough but it hits harder knowing what comes next in Battle for Azeroth when you see ** spoiler omitted **

Oh f$~* now all that made the main thing come back, A Flicker of Hope from BfA aka ** spoiler omitted **

3 minutes. That's all you get to save nearly 1,000 people. 3 minutes.

If you're honed and on point and don't slip up... you might save 80.

This hits even harder because a lot of these aren't just random NPCs, these are people lots of players have regularly interacted with for nearly 15 years, to some people (like me) they grew up interacting with these NPCs, hanging out in this major city, that was always one of the safest places to be in the game.

And then in one night, in 3 minutes, it's all gone.

This one hurt, I teared up writing it. Damnit, Blizzard.

Alliance scum! Rawwwrrrrr!

*Pounces on Rysky!*

Don't mind me... too much in burning legion of alliance dudes ganking me when I'm just there to kill demons.

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Just a Mort wrote:
Rysky wrote:

Just got back into World of Warcraft and just started the Legion storyline. Losing ** spoiler omitted ** so brutally and horrifically was bad enough but it hits harder knowing what comes next in Battle for Azeroth when you see ** spoiler omitted **

Oh f$~* now all that made the main thing come back, A Flicker of Hope from BfA aka ** spoiler omitted **

3 minutes. That's all you get to save nearly 1,000 people. 3 minutes.

If you're honed and on point and don't slip up... you might save 80.

This hits even harder because a lot of these aren't just random NPCs, these are people lots of players have regularly interacted with for nearly 15 years, to some people (like me) they grew up interacting with these NPCs, hanging out in this major city, that was always one of the safest places to be in the game.

And then in one night, in 3 minutes, it's all gone.

This one hurt, I teared up writing it. Damnit, Blizzard.

Alliance scum! Rawwwrrrrr!

*Pounces on Rysky!*

Don't mind me... too much in burning legion of alliance dudes ganking me when I'm just there to kill demons.

Same, I've played Forsaken since Vanilla (tried a Worgen when MoP came out), so this is hitting me a lot.


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DeathQuaker wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
DeathQuaker wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

DeathQuaker wrote:
Fred from Angel
Wannabe Demon Lord wrote:
Tara in Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Tensor wrote:
All three of these made me sad, but mostly they just made me angry at Whedon, and to a lesser extent the shows' writers, who seemed (to me anyway) to have difficulty writing all three characters much beyond the superficial stuff or as support for the core characters. All three deserved better storylines.

Add November from Dollhouse to the list of "Joss Whedon killing off quirky nerdy/awkward girls and pissing me off." Mark me, if Firefly had continued, Kaylee would have been next, and it would have been brutal. Willow didn't get killed but she had to go through a bunch of torture and faceheel turns some of which felt overdone.

It's weird, quirky nerdy or dorky girls were probably the staple of his following in the 90s. I can only assume he hated his own fans.

Anya in particular pissed me off because it was just so gratuitous... an off screen death that happened just to say somebody died.

Fred I was truly sad at because it was at least a good story, a good on screen death, that felt like it was part of her story. While there were far too many buckets of man-angst afterward, it felt like she wasn't just fridged for someone else's plot (unlike Tara, who has the honor of being the first woman to be fridged for another woman). And I was fascinated by Illyria. And again, in the comics she came back anyway because of the magical weirdness of Illyria being in her body (which is not true for Tara or Anya or Jenny Calendar or anyone else).

Edited to remove the gratuitous uses of the word "gratuitous."

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Why not join me, on the whedon haterade side of the force? We can rule the universe as father and son!

*whineshouts* "I'LL NEVER JOIN YOU!"

Because excessive hate serves no more purpose in pop culture...

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If only you knew the power of the haterade side...


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Oh when i waa very young and i saw the orginal King Kong and Godzilla I cried when the title monsters died.


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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:


Lathiira wrote:
Optimus Prime, 1986 animated Transformers: the Movie
I sniffed a bit, but Optimus was never my favorite, so it wasn't too bad for me. Megatron's slaughter on the shuttle hit much harder.

Such heroic nonsense...

Yeah. That let me know this movie was...different.
I didnt feel a sense of dread, more like "holy shit, they are shooting to KILL?!? When did this happen?!"

Starscream hit me pretty hard, as that seemed an agonizing end.


"One shall stand, one shall fall."
"Why throw away your life so recklessly?"
"That's a question you should ask yourself, Megatron."
"No...I'll crush you with my bare hands!"

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DeathQuaker wrote:
Woran I seem to have forgotten Big Fish and then your simply evoking the name makes me suddenly feel sorrowful and I can't even remember why (don't remind me). It must have been powerful.

I understand. My lips are sealed.


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I was super sad when Bendis died on Firefly, not because I liked him but because he got off easy, unlike the rest of the cast which still has to suffer through "When are they bringing back Firefly!?!" whenever they walk down the street or flit around in heaven.

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The ending of Wolf's Rain hit me so hard I still cry when I hear the credit song.

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Barb from Stranger Things. I have kids.


Dumb question but how do you put something in spoilers?


Yqatuba wrote:
Dumb question but how do you put something in spoilers?

Look below underneath the submission box form for "How to format your text" and click the little "Show" button next to it. It'll display all the allowed formatting options, including spoilers.


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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:


Lathiira wrote:
Optimus Prime, 1986 animated Transformers: the Movie
I sniffed a bit, but Optimus was never my favorite, so it wasn't too bad for me. Megatron's slaughter on the shuttle hit much harder.

Such heroic nonsense...

Yeah. That let me know this movie was...different.
I didnt feel a sense of dread, more like "holy s%!*, they are shooting to KILL?!? When did this happen?!"

Starscream hit me pretty hard, as that seemed an agonizing end.

He had it coming.. plus his spark lived so there's that.


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Remembered another one: Mr. Spock sacrificing himself to save the Enterprise at the end of Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.

[I was young enough not to realize that the death of a major character in a sci-fi film franchise is not necessarily permanent.]

Liberty's Edge

Definitely Sturm and Flint in Dragonlance!
Oof, their deaths both really got me when I read them back in the day ...


Michael Keaton's character in My Life. It's no spoiler - you know from the moment the movie opens he's going to die. It's the entire point of the movie. Doesn't stop the ending from hitting like a ton of bricks.


The Last Unicorn.

Yeah, holy f$!*, was that a great movie!

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The Last Jedi

Spoiler:
Luke seeing the twin suns of Tattooine as he became one with the Force. That got me right in the feels.

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captain yesterday wrote:

The Last Unicorn.

Yeah, holy f!~~, was that a great movie!

I totally forgot about that one!


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The Phantom Menace, Jar-Jar Binks killed the Star Wars franchise for me.

Before you say "But, Captain Yesterday he isn't in any other Star Wars movie!" yeah, I can't take that chance.


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Spoiler:
Smergle [and then most of the rest of the band]
in Flight of Dragons

Spoiler:
Andy's clone
in one of the Advance Wars games

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