...they can not be subjects of handle animal checks because those checks only work on animals
That is not, in the strictest sense of the word, true.
From the Handle Animal skill description: "You can use this skill on a creature with an Intelligence score of 1 or 2 that is not an animal..."
missed that part but it still doesn't work on anything with more then 2 int
If you willingly ignore when paizo goes out of their way to fill in gray or contradictory areas of the rules (for reasons i find completely unfathomable), don't be surprised when there are gray or contradictory areas of the rules in your view of the rules.
Quote tags got a little messed up there BNW.
Quote tags got a little messed up there BNW.
its a snow day! Lemee alone :)
I know—I wouldn’t ordinarily have said anything, but snow day... I get all eye-twitchy about tiny things :) And then a ghost bartender shows up and... I’ve said too much...
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There's an interesting question: If no creature with an intelligence of 3 or higher can be an animal, what happens to an animal that attains an intelligence score of 3 or higher?
This seems, RAI, a limitation that says "Creatures of the animal type have a base intelligence of 1-2." After all, one could hardly argue that putting a Headband of Intelligence +2 on a cat that it suddenly becomes some sort of magical super cat (i.e., increasing an ability score doesn't change a creature's type).
The Int. rule seems as though it is meant to apply as a baseline number, indicating animal-level understanding, with the clear intention that an animal that gains intelligence through other means stays an animal, unless magically permanently altered. An owlbear, for example, is no longer an animal, but a magical beast because WIZARDS, despite its bestial nature and 2 Intelligence.
Basically, don't overthink this whole typing thing. An animal is an animal until the rules say it isn't, and outside the Awaken spell this isn't really the case.
Long story short, if you need convoluted ways to interpret something that only make the rules MORE confusing, you aren't following the RAI which, in cases like this, is at least as important as the RAW.
There's an interesting question: If no creature with an intelligence of 3 or higher can be an animal, what happens to an animal that attains an intelligence score of 3 or higher?
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its a question they answeredThere's an interesting question: If no creature with an intelligence of 3 or higher can be an animal, what happens to an animal that attains an intelligence score of 3 or higher?
I mean, I'm not terribly surprised. Interesting skim. I was merely saying something Lady-J might have more fun with. But yeah, makes sense, it's a fake issue anyways.
