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No.
Buying the base item with prestige does not remove the prestige availability rules for upgrading that item.
The item purchased with prestige (Dragonhide Breastplate) is always available.
The Dragonhide Breastplate +1 is not.
Just like A breastplate, a masterwork breastplate and a breastplate +1 are always available... A breastplate +2 is not.
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Always Available Items
You may always purchase the following items or
equipment as long as you’re in an appropriately sized
settlement (see page 20).+1 weapons (2,000 gp + 300 gp for the masterwork
weapon cost + item cost)
+1 armor (1,000 gp + 150 gp for the masterwork armor
cost + item cost)
This doesn't seem to have such restrictions, where does it say those aren't available?
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Because apparently in Pathfinder Society you aren't paying 1000 gp to have your draonghide enchanted by someone.
You are giving up your dragonhide armor and 1000 gp and they are giving you a completely different suit of +1 dragonhide, which they can't get for just anyone. That's pretty much the only way it makes sense.
Maybe one too many accidents and cursed items being created has caused them to not just ban PC item crafters, but all item crafters from the Pathfinder Society, so they have to send out for any magic item creation.
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This doesn't seem to have such restrictions, where does it say those aren't available?Always Available Items
You may always purchase the following items or
equipment as long as you’re in an appropriately sized
settlement (see page 20).+1 weapons (2,000 gp + 300 gp for the masterwork
weapon cost + item cost)
+1 armor (1,000 gp + 150 gp for the masterwork armor
cost + item cost)
The same document lists the restriction for Dragonhide. Additional Resources lists the restriction for Firearms.
Think about it. If what you were saying was true, then:
Unavailable: Mwk Musket
Available: +1 Musket
Unavailable: +2 Musket
It doesn't work like that. The section you quoted represents the general rule. Firearms and Dragonhide are specific exceptions.
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This doesn't seem to have such restrictions, where does it say those aren't available?Always Available Items
You may always purchase the following items or
equipment as long as you’re in an appropriately sized
settlement (see page 20).+1 weapons (2,000 gp + 300 gp for the masterwork
weapon cost + item cost)
+1 armor (1,000 gp + 150 gp for the masterwork armor
cost + item cost)The same document lists the restriction for Dragonhide. Additional Resources lists the restriction for Firearms.
Think about it. If what you were saying was true, then:
Unavailable: Mwk Musket
Available: +1 Musket
Unavailable: +2 MusketIt doesn't work like that. The section you quoted represents the general rule. Firearms and Dragonhide are specific exceptions.
I wasn't saying you were wrong, I was just asking were the info was
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I get it too, it just doesn't make sense.
Pathfinder 1: I have a masterwork longbow I'd like to get enchanted to +1. I don't have a lot of fame though.
NPC: That's OK, your gold is good here.
Pathfinder 2: I have a masterwork pistol I'd like to get enchanted to +1.
NPC: How much fame do you have.
Pathfinder 2: What? Uh, 12.
NPC: That's not sufficient you need 18 fame before we will enchant that for you. NEXT!
Pathfinder 2: But you took his bow and he only had 8 fame.
NPC: THAT'S DIFFERENT!
Pathfinder 2: How? It's the exact same process.
NPC: DO I HAVE TO CALL SECURITY? NEXT!
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I wasn't saying you were wrong, I was just asking were the info wasThis doesn't seem to have such restrictions, where does it say those aren't available?Always Available Items
You may always purchase the following items or
equipment as long as you’re in an appropriately sized
settlement (see page 20).+1 weapons (2,000 gp + 300 gp for the masterwork
weapon cost + item cost)
+1 armor (1,000 gp + 150 gp for the masterwork armor
cost + item cost)The same document lists the restriction for Dragonhide. Additional Resources lists the restriction for Firearms.
Think about it. If what you were saying was true, then:
Unavailable: Mwk Musket
Available: +1 Musket
Unavailable: +2 MusketIt doesn't work like that. The section you quoted represents the general rule. Firearms and Dragonhide are specific exceptions.
And I answered you. Both the Guide to Organized Play and the Additional Resources document.
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It's not bad as is as most PCs should have 5 PA Fame when they hit second level and then the ceiling jumps to $500, by third level $1500. Conscientious Pathfinders will have 18 PA after 9 chronicles, or Fourth level.
Depending on how well their scenarios go.
One could have the most goal-driven and mission-focused team on record, but if the dice betray them on a consistent basis, it's also entirely possible that they could have 0 PA after 9 chronicles, through no fault of their own.
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One could have the most goal-driven and mission-focused team on record, but if the dice betray them on a consistent basis, it's also entirely possible that they could have 0 PA after 9 chronicles, through no fault of their own.
The odds of that happening are lower than the number of pathfinders around.
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The odds of that happening are lower than the number of pathfinders around.
One could have the most goal-driven and mission-focused team on record, but if the dice betray them on a consistent basis, it's also entirely possible that they could have 0 PA after 9 chronicles, through no fault of their own.
I have been on a few scenarios where we only got one. There was one scenario where the only reason I got a PA was because I cashed in a boon from a previous scenario. It doesn't seem as far-fetched to me, especially if the dice are cold or the GM is rather firm about things.
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I have been on a few scenarios where we only got one. There was one scenario where the only reason I got a PA was because I cashed in a boon from a previous scenario. It doesn't seem as far-fetched to me, especially if the dice are cold or the GM is rather firm about things.
One happens, (one is supposed to happen a lot more than it does in practice...) Zero is supposed to be an oddity. I've only seen it happen once from either side of the screen.
*dusts off unused stats part of brain* [A few where you get zero/ How many]^9 would be your odds of having 9 chronicles with zero xp. Even at 50 50 thats ~.2% chance. If you put the odds at 1 out of ten its 0.000000000000000001 .. i lost track of what that's 1/out of but its a lot.
