Official Ruling Question: Feint


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Silver Crusade 5/5 5/55/5 **** Venture-Captain, Germany—Bavaria

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Segovax wrote:

Clarification on the incident, as I was the GM who made the ruling.

It was a misunderstanding, the wording from greater feint and the redundancy of the wording "on or before your next turn" rather than something like "before the end of your next turn" as many other abilities use had me confused.
I was running cold as we have had a large influx of new players and a shortage of GMs due to GM fatigue from our regulars.
I tried to handle the situation as best I could in the limited time I could, by explaining why I was ruling it that way, and then getting the only Venture Officer present to help on a ruling (I am not a VL or in any way an organizer for the group, just a person volunteering to GM), who sided with my ruling either to not undermine the GM or because he understood it as I did.
Do not present it as if all of the players were on your side during the ruling, at least two said that they could see it being read either way.
Instead of assuming that I won't listen, try just talking to me before or after the scenario instead of being confrontational. You might find that I am a pretty agreeable person when you don't immediately put me on the defensive and dismiss everything I say with "we'll see".

Sorry for the incorrect ruling. Enjoy your time here at our lodge.

Everyone makes mistakes, running cold is always a stressful situation so mistakes can happen.

When a situation like this arises (and it does not actually kill anyone) it is best to make a not and discuss things after the game. Ideally after checking the rules and relevant FAQs.

VOs are explicitly not excluded when it comes to making mistakes.

If you are unable to resolve a particular issue with your GM talk to your Venture Officer and if need be escalate the issue up the chain. Of course, it could also work to avoid the GM, but that might not always be an option.

Players should try not to be too insistent at the table when it comes to things like this, otherwise, the GM might just decide not to offer running games for that particular player anymore. Usually not because of the specific rules question, but due to the behavior of everyone involved.

So try to be nice and understanding.

Lantern Lodge Customer Service Manager

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Removed posts and replies that are off-topic and/or derisive. I think the issue has been hashed out enough and I'm going to go ahead and lock this up.

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