Confusion and Protection from Evil


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Does Protection From Evil and similar spells help against Confusion? More so what I am asking is does PFE's second ability work on Confusion does it allow for a reroll and ignore duration? And yes the confusion caster is Evil for this scenario.


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No, for confusion does not allow for mental control of the caster over the subject of the spell.


2bz2p wrote:
No, for confusion does not allow for mental control of the caster over the subject of the spell.

Ahem.

Protection From Evil:

"the subject immediately receives another saving throw (if one was allowed to begin with) against any spells or effects that possess or exercise mental control over the creature (including enchantment [charm] effects and enchantment [compulsion] effects, such as charm person, command, and dominate person)"

Confusion:

"School enchantment (compulsion) [mind-affecting]"


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Hay Guys, I Can Haz FAQ

CRB FAQ wrote:

Protection From Evil: Does this work against all charm and compulsion effects? Or just against charm and compulsion effects where the caster is able to exercise control over the target, such as charm person, command, and dominate person (and thus not effects like sleep or confusion, as the caster does not have ongoing influence or puppet-like control of the target)?

The latter interpretation is correct: protection from evil only works on charm and compulsion effects where the caster is able to exercise control over the target, such as command, charm person, and dominate person; it doesn't work on sleep or confusion. (Sleep is a border case for this issue, but the designers feel that "this spell overrides your brain's sleep centers" is different enough than "this spell overrides your resistance to commands from others.")


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Thanks THat answered my friends question


Snowblind, Snarkwyrm wrote:
it doesn't work on sleep or confusion.

How interesting. Apparently compelling their mind to be confused isn't exercising mental control. Shame I can't edit.


Balkoth wrote:
Snowblind, Snarkwyrm wrote:
it doesn't work on sleep or confusion.
How interesting. Apparently compelling their mind to be confused isn't exercising mental control. Shame I can't edit.

You can always house rule Protection From Evil can also grant a second save, but it is pretty clear those spells have effect on the target but the caster gains no control of the target, and are therefore not considered compelled (as the FAQ concurs).

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