Favorite Prestige Class


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captain yesterday wrote:
I wish they would use the aligned class feature more in prestige classes and work it into the older ones that would benefit from it, like Hellknight or Eldritch Knight. :-)

With Eldritch Knight do you mean Diverse Training? What class abilities do you think it advances?

Shadow Lodge

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I've never gotten a character into one yet, but I've had plans for an Unarmed Fighter going into Shadowdancer; a Cavalier becoming a Stalwart Defender; and rather than try a dwarf Scrollmaster Transmuter, I think I'll forego the archetype and go for Cyphermage instead.

I also want to try a Master Chymist at some point, whose alignment shifts from N to NG during mutations.


I want to play a Master Chymist at some point for sure. It seems like a fun class. Honestly I want to do a reverse Jekyll/Hyde. The alchemist is evil, but the mutagen is NG and wants to help people and hates being used by the alchemist for his ill-intentions.

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I actually had a similar idea. He has difficulty remembering what happens when he mutates, but is worried because whatever it was, it felt good.

Plot twist: it felt good because he was doing good. He maintains the same identity while mutated, but loses his clinical detachment and compassionately sympathizes with nearly everyone. Though it probably won't be much of a plot point for long, unless his allies don't care.

Dark Archive

That sounds cool. The 'Hyde' represents the inner child of the too-rational alchemist, all innocent and trusting and kind-hearted by nature, while the 'Jekyll' is a cold, calculating man, all about the ruthless pursuit of knowledge.

As the duration of the mutagen runs down, the 'Hyde' looks around wide-eyed and cowers, muttering that his friends should run away, because 'the bad man is coming back, and he has bad plans for them...'


Add one more to the list for Master Chymist. Y'all have sold me on the idea!

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Have any of you ever played a halfling opportunist? I have a swashbuckler (mouser) who I think might take at least a couple of levels in that PrC.


I have a plan for that prestige class, Unarmed Fighter for Monkey Style and Intrepid Rescuer.

AKA 'Please, try and hit me. I'm just going to take a nap here while you try. Also, ignore the fact that I am shanking you in the shins.'


My Master Chymist had the nice one being the Hyde character. LN Dr Jekyll, CG Mr Hyde. Dr was a scientist trying to figure out how to become immortal and is very selfish, Mr fights to the death to protect his allies, and tries is very generous.


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I still doubt we'll ever see the aligned class class feature in another prestige class. It's a very powerful ability and more or less goes against their original design philosophy for prestige classes, which was "We don't want prestige classes to be base classes 2.0".


Yes, add Master Chymist to my list as well

captain yesterday wrote:


It's not blasphemy, it's called an opinion, and like Spider-Man reboots, everyone has one. :-)

Just teasing :P

EDIT: added Spider-man reboot line, cause the Captain's proud of it :)


You didn't include my Spider-Man reboot line (I was rather proud of that).

I kinda figured that. :-)


Dark Midian wrote:
I still doubt we'll ever see the aligned class class feature in another prestige class. It's a very powerful ability and more or less goes against their original design philosophy for prestige classes, which was "We don't want prestige classes to be base classes 2.0".

In fact the Chernasardo Warden from Fangs of War has the aligned class feature, but only 1/2 as opposed to the Full-1 of the Evangelist. Works as a Rogue/Ranger mix concentrating on guerilla conflict. Pretty fun Prestige really.


Eldritch Knight. I imagine humans seeing an elf magus in action and cobbling together the EK in response. Casting spells in armor requires some investment (feats, special materials) but what the prestige class lacks in synergy it eventually makes up for in terms of raw power.


shadowdancer based on a slayer, thug rogue or a lore warden .
it got a scouting pet, a scouting abilities and just great debuffer.

a rogue 1 \ wizard 5 > Arcane Trickster.... almost a full caster + a decent rogue. GREAT ! (there is a feat that allow +1d6 sneak to get in)


+2d6 sneak attack to enter Arcane Trickster, so you'll need to burn a feat on Accomplished Sneak Attacker at 3rd. The upside is that you'll qualify to take Arcane Trickster 1 at 5th instead of 7th (when one could normally enter at rogue 3rd/wizard 3rd).

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The Mad Comrade wrote:
+2d6 sneak attack to enter Arcane Trickster, so you'll need to burn a feat on Accomplished Sneak Attacker at 3rd. The upside is that you'll qualify to take Arcane Trickster 1 at 5th instead of 7th (when one could normally enter at rogue 3rd/wizard 3rd).

What book is that feat in?


Chris Ballard wrote:
The Mad Comrade wrote:
+2d6 sneak attack to enter Arcane Trickster, so you'll need to burn a feat on Accomplished Sneak Attacker at 3rd. The upside is that you'll qualify to take Arcane Trickster 1 at 5th instead of 7th (when one could normally enter at rogue 3rd/wizard 3rd).
What book is that feat in?

The feat is in the Dirty Tactics Toolbox

The feat says your sneak attack damage dice cannot exceed half your character level (rounded up), so it seems getting into Arcane Trickster early won't work with this feat as you'd need to be at least 3rd level rogue to take the feat.


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Alaric23 wrote:

The feat says your sneak attack damage dice cannot exceed half your character level (rounded up), so it seems getting into Arcane Trickster early won't work with this feat as you'd need to be at least 3rd level rogue to take the feat.

The feat works just fine. SN can't exceed half your character level. Not class level.

So Wizard 2/Rogue 1. Take feat, feat add 1d6 SN (3/2= 1.5 rounded up to 2, so max 2d6 SN). Level to Wizard 3. Enter Arcane Trickster.


Yep - so in most APs you'll get to Arcane Trickster's capstone at 14th level, plenty of time to actually get to play with it. At least all of Chapter 6 in most APs, some are earlier than that.


Samasboy1 wrote:
Alaric23 wrote:

The feat says your sneak attack damage dice cannot exceed half your character level (rounded up), so it seems getting into Arcane Trickster early won't work with this feat as you'd need to be at least 3rd level rogue to take the feat.

The feat works just fine. SN can't exceed half your character level. Not class level.

So Wizard 2/Rogue 1. Take feat, feat add 1d6 SN (3/2= 1.5 rounded up to 2, so max 2d6 SN). Level to Wizard 3. Enter Arcane Trickster.

You're right. 'Character level' not 'Rogue level'. Sometimes it feels like you've got to be a lawyer when reading the rules and look at the specific meaning of each and every written word.

Thanks for pointing that out.

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