The Green Faith in PFS


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Scarab Sages

I understand this to not be a legal choice of deity (more of a philosophy than a deity anyway), but there are many legal choices that depend on being a follower of the the green faith. How is this handled for PFS? Like is it just something you mark on the character sheet and role play, like gender or hair color, or is there a mechanical requirement for being a follower?

Futhermore, would it it be inappropriate to have a character that worships a diety AND is a follower of the green faith?

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There are two PFS legal Religion Traits (Eyes of the Wild and Know the Land) that require you to worship (not venerate) the Green Faith.

What makes you think it's not legal?

For this discussion, it'd be clearer if you didn't use the word "follower". Use "worship" and "venerate".

You could not worship a deity and worship the Green Faith, but you could venerate one and worship the other.

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The Green Faith isn't a legal deity because the source for it isn't in Additional Resources, unless there is another source other than Pathfinder #75: Demon's Heresy

Scarab Sages 5/5

Faiths & Philosophies.

Also you could likely treat it like an affinity (see the Guide glossary).

Scarab Sages

Nefreet wrote:

There are two PFS legal Religion Traits (Eyes of the Wild and Know the Land) that require you to worship (not venerate) the Green Faith.

What makes you think it's not legal?

For this discussion, it'd be clearer if you didn't use the word "follower". Use "worship" and "venerate".

You could not worship a deity and worship the Green Faith, but you could venerate one and worship the other.

There's also a feat, Green Faith Acolyte, which specifically requires you to be a "follower" of the green faith. That's why I'm use this term, which I'm attempting to determine the in-game value of said term.

As for why it wouldn't be legal, PFS has strict guides on legal deities/religion, and I recall the Green Faith not being a legal selection (as a relgion/deity).

So, if it isn't a legal deity/religion, then can I select a PFS legal religion too? That's where that question comes from.

For a more specific question, I'm wondering if a PFS Cleric is allowed to qualify for the Green Faith Acolyte prestige class. Nothing in the description suggests they can't be, but in PFS, a cleric is unable to be devoted to an Ideal, they MUST pick a deity. So if I want to take this prestige class as a cleric, I'd have to select deity. Can I worship a deity while following the Green Faith?

Scarab Sages

Graham Wilson wrote:
The Green Faith isn't a legal deity because the source for it isn't in Additional Resources, unless there is another source other than Pathfinder #75: Demon's Heresy

The Green Faith isn't even a deity. It's described as a philosophy.

There's also a Prestige option within the PFS Field Guide, but again, unclear if this constitutes being a "follower" or how this relates to deity worship.

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Faiths & Philosophies doesn't make Green Faith a legal choice. I's on page 10, and the only thing legal from page 10 is the Green Faith Initiate archetype (yes, ironic isn't it?).

That said, I put down Gozreh on my Green Faith Initiate's line for worship on her charactersheet, based on the description of the Green Faith, but in play I tend to just go with the Green Faith philosophy.

Green Faith:
The Green Faith is a multifaceted set of beliefs centered on the natural world which grew out of an ancient conflict between druids that worshiped different elemental aspects of the world. As a druidic belief system, it is shamanistic, but also has elements of the ecclesiastical in its strong hierarchy and an underlying current of worship of Gozreh.

I would love to see the Green Faith changed to a legal option, because as mentioned there are quite a few options for them.

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its A legal vanity as well

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I'll be honest, while I'm generally in near 100% agreement on how the PFS team handles the deity requirement of divine casters, it frustrates me to no end that Golarion specific lore pantheons are not permitted.

I would love to see the team come up with a clarification rule on how to be a member of the Green Faith, or worship the Pentamic Faith, or even follow the Prophecies of Kalistrade without breaking the current system of one character, one god.

Scarab Sages

I did find a passage in the Inner Sea World Guide, which clarifies, at least that book's stance on this. Can't copy and paste on my copy, but here goes with typing it:

"Listed here are four of the most widespread, well-known, or notorious philosophies currently active on Golarion. For the most part, adherence to a philosophy does not perclude membership in another organization, prestige class, or religion, although there are certain implications in most philosophies that make some choices untenable - you wouldn't expect to ever see a diabolist priest of desna, for example."

-Inner Sea World Guide, page 236, third paragraph on the left side. Part of the introduction to the Philosophies section of the book, which specificially covers Diabolism, The Green Faith, The Prophecies of Kalistrade, and The Whispering Way.

So, I think, at least here, that it's okay to have a Deity AND be part of the Green Faith. Still unclear if there is a mechanical requirement to being a follower of the Green Faith (other than adherence to a certain way of thinking).

If I sat down at your table and had the Green Faith Acolyte feat, would you demand my character had some additional mechanical requirement, other than just roleplaying a respect for nature and the natural path of things?

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There is also the green faith martial Inquisitor, which is clearly a follower of the green faith. However, if the green faith isn't a valid deity than how can they cast spells?

Scarab Sages

Imbicatus wrote:
There is also the green faith martial Inquisitor, which is clearly a follower of the green faith. However, if the green faith isn't a valid deity than how can they cast spells?

No change in deity requirement for that class. So, I suppose you found the proof I was seeking for PFS. If that legal, then I can definitely be a cleric and of the Green Faith.

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MisterSlanky wrote:

I'll be honest, while I'm generally in near 100% agreement on how the PFS team handles the deity requirement of divine casters, it frustrates me to no end that Golarion specific lore pantheons are not permitted.

I would love to see the team come up with a clarification rule on how to be a member of the Green Faith, or worship the Pentamic Faith, or even follow the Prophecies of Kalistrade without breaking the current system of one character, one god.

Currently you can worship a pantheon. But you must pick a single deity within that pantheon to gain your abilities from.

This is to stop cherry picking domains from among 5 or more deities.

But I do agree with you, that The Green Faith and the Prophecies of Kalistrade need a LOT more time invested in coming up with a usable way to let players be a part of them.

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Murdock Mudeater wrote:


"Listed here are four of the most widespread, well-known, or notorious philosophies currently active on Golarion. For the most part, adherence to a philosophy does not perclude membership in another organization, prestige class, or religion, although there are certain implications in most philosophies that make some choices untenable - you wouldn't expect to ever see a diabolist priest of desna, for example."

-Inner Sea World Guide, page 236

Thank you for that. I amend my previous, more restrictive comment.

So I suppose the Green Faith falls into the same category as Aroden. No stats, but plenty of legal material for it.

Scarab Sages

Nefreet wrote:
So I suppose the Green Faith falls into the same category as Aroden. No stats, but plenty of legal material for it.

Does it? Isn't Aroden a deity, even if a presently powerless deity? The Green Faith is not a Deity, it's a Philosophy, or rather a way of looking at the world.

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Someone has to bring up that it's not easy being Green Faith.

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