Ostog the Unslain's recharge to reduce damage


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Can the skill "When you are dealt Combat damage, you may recharge a card to reduce the damage by 2" be used multiple times on the same fight? I just rolled nothing on a check against an ambush Traitor on a RotRL replay... so can I recharge my hand to mitigate the damage or is it one of the power then discard the rest of my hand as damage?

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I am fairly sure the answer is "no". This power is triggered by Ostog being dealt combat damage. When that happens, you may "recharge a card..." which means for each instance of combat damage, you can recharge one card to reduce it.


Seconding. However if you were dealt (say) d4 ranged combat damage then d4 ranged combat damage, you could use the power once for each instance of damage.


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Talonius wrote:
I just rolled nothing on a check against an ambush Traitor on a RotRL replay... so can I recharge my hand to mitigate the damage ...?

I think you have the answer right there. If it worked *that* way - this would mean Ostog is pretty much impervious to combat damage. I mean, I know he's called "The Unslain", but come on...


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You are taking damage once, so you get to activate the power once. The power activates each time you take damage.

With your interpretation, the power "When you move, discard a card." makes you hand wipe and the power "When you fail a check to defeat, bury the top card of your deck" kills you due to burying your entire deck. I hope you can see that neither of those things are what is obviously intended by the wording of the powers, so as a result being able to recharge more than one card for Ostog's power is also not intended. All powers work the same way, there isn't something that says "you can use beneficial powers more than once on the same thing, but detrimental powers only happen once per thing." The rule is simply "If a power says it may be used when something happens, you may use it every time that happens. Otherwise, a specific card’s power may only be used once per check or step."


To add to those very good answers:

The way all powers are written now, if Ostog was able to recharge many cards on a single instance of damage, the power would have been written something like (in better english):

"When you are dealt Combat damage, you may recharge any number of cards. Reduce the damage by 2 for each card that you recharged."


Longshot11 wrote:
I think you have the answer right there. If it worked *that* way - this would mean Ostog is pretty much impervious to combat damage. I mean, I know he's called "The Unslain", but come on...

Any damage really, when he uses a power feat.

More to the point, if it worked like OP suggested, then what would be the point of increasing the amount of damage that can be reduced? Just in order to recharge less cards?

By the way, Ostog's damage reducing power works really well in WotR.


elcoderdude wrote:
Seconding. However if you were dealt (say) d4 ranged combat damage then d4 ranged combat damage, you could use the power once for each instance of damage.

Are you sure? It's my understanding that when you take damage from a source that's worded "and then" all the damage is counting as happening during the same step or check, necessitating damage prevention from different sources.


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Xexyz wrote:
elcoderdude wrote:
Seconding. However if you were dealt (say) d4 ranged combat damage then d4 ranged combat damage, you could use the power once for each instance of damage.
Are you sure? It's my understanding that when you take damage from a source that's worded "and then" all the damage is counting as happening during the same step or check, necessitating damage prevention from different sources.

elcoderdude has it right here. The power in question begins with "When you are dealt combat damage" which means it triggers every time you are dealt combat damage. "When" and "When you would" powers break the once per check or step rule. See the last sentence of my above post for the rulebook quote.

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