Reluctant to use Hangman Tree's 'Hallucinatory Spores'


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I'm using a Hangman Tree as a 'boss' for a party of 4: Rogue 4/Sorcerer 2, Cleric 6, Barbarian 5 and Sorcerer 5.

Just looked at the 'Hallucinatory Spores' ability which requires a DC20 Will Save. The only party member I see with a good chance of resisting this is the Cleric who has a +12 Will save - the others are +5, +6 and +3.

With this leaving most of the party out of combat (if not dead), I'm not sure if/when to use it. Can anyone help? A CR 6 monster shouldn't technically be ridiculously difficult for them, but I can't see them surviving the encounter :/


should be fine, they get a new save every time they take damage at a +4. So that's +16, +9, +10, +7, Pretty good chances of most of them saving after two rounds.


That does make it seem better, though it concerns me that it could kill most of the party with a successful full attack.

Also, if it grapples with one if its 3 vines, can it still use that vine to attack with?

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You can always lower the save DC, or give them a special boost (potion, magic fountain, magic beans or berries) that give them a save bonus, or just Will saves, or even just hallucinations or whatever.

Or maybe increase the save bonus when they take damage, like a bonus equal to the damage or half the damage or something?

Usually, you can't attack with a limb you are grappling with, but sometimes you can hit your enemy with your other enemy.

Just choose whatever is the most fun.


LucyG92 wrote:

That does make it seem better, though it concerns me that it could kill most of the party with a successful full attack.

Also, if it grapples with one if its 3 vines, can it still use that vine to attack with?

Don't full attack them then, spread the attacks out over all the party. and no, you cant attack with a limb you're using to grapple.


derpdidruid wrote:


Don't full attack them then, spread the attacks out over all the party.

As in, use one of the three attacks on each character within reach? You can do that? I always assumed it had to be one target

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No, you can absolutely spread out your attacks among different targets!

It's usually more tactical to try and drop a single target, but if you're trying not to kill a PC...


Well, I tried, but two party members still died. :/ They did defeat the tree, though.

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Dead dead, or mostly dead?


Dead until they get taken to a city to be raised again, dead. Ha.


LucyG92 wrote:
Dead until they get taken to a city to be raised again, dead. Ha.

I'm guessing there were tactical lessons learned. Probably they are learning the value of knowledge checks, buffs, positioning, and supporting one another. If your players get something out of the encounter that teaches them how to handle other encounters, it's still a win.

Scarab Sages

Also learning the value of a good will save. Only one good will save in a party of 4 will cause a TPK sooner or later.

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